In Defense of Black Republicans

[Serious]

at this point our goal should to be forces in both parties, which will make black people a force generally, so i dont really care which party has done more for black people

Basically, I'm hoping that upon the 2016 election, the GOP either smartens up, by diversifying themselves in a more multicultural light and modifying part of their curriculum( doubt it. )

Or a green / progressive type party emerges, which would most likely instill in a non-bipartisanship congress.

Basically Dems are going to be running this poli sci sh*t in 2016 :sadslystallion:

 

[theworldismine13]

Basically, I'm hoping that upon the 2016 election, the GOP either smartens up, by diversifying themselves in a more multicultural light and modifying part of their curriculum( doubt it. )

Or a green / progressive type party emerges, which would most likely instill in a non-bipartisanship congress.

Basically Dems are going to be running this poli sci sh*t in 2016 :sadslystallion:

im not sure whats gonna happen, but i dont see anything wrong with tim scott, i think in the overall context tim scott is a good thing

im not endorsing his politics or the GOP, but the "black agenda" should include more black people in the GOP because in terms of raw political power, black political power would increase if the black vote was split

 

[MeachTheMonster]

im not sure whats gonna happen, but i dont see anything wrong with tim scott, i think in the overall context tim scott is a good thing

im not endorsing his politics or the GOP, but the "black agenda" should include more black people in the GOP because in terms of raw political power, black political power would increase if the black vote was split

Raw political power is worth nothing if it isn't used to further our agenda. A black person isn't making it in the Republican Party without being anti-black. So what good does a bunch of black people do in that party? The sad fact is that there is just not enough of us to exact a real change on our own. At less than 15% of the electorate even if we all come together and make an agenda and push it, we still need "others" to help us get it realized. Unfortunately we have to side with those who have our best interests in mind, even if they aren't perfect.

This is not to say we should have blind party loyalty, but at this time in history, siding with the Democratic Party gives us our best chance at pushing policies that are friendly to our agenda.

 

[theworldismine13]

Raw political power is worth nothing if it isn't used to further our agenda. A black person isn't making it in the Republican Party without being anti-black. So what good does a bunch of black people do in that party? The sad fact is that there is just not enough of us to exact a real change on our own. At less than 15% of the electorate even if we all come together and make an agenda and push it, we still need "others" to help us get it realized. Unfortunately we have to side with those who have our best interests in mind, even if they aren't perfect.

This is not to say we should have blind party loyalty, but at this time in history, siding with the Democratic Party gives us our best chance at pushing policies that are friendly to our agenda.

Sorry bruh, I'm not interested in your slave talk

 

[CACtain Planet]

Raw political power is worth nothing if it isn't used to further our agenda. A black person isn't making it in the Republican Party without being anti-black. So what good does a bunch of black people do in that party? The sad fact is that there is just not enough of us to exact a real change on our own. At less than 15% of the electorate even if we all come together and make an agenda and push it, we still need "others" to help us get it realized. Unfortunately we have to side with those who have our best interests in mind, even if they aren't perfect.

This is not to say we should have blind party loyalty, but at this time in history, siding with the Democratic Party gives us our best chance at pushing policies that are friendly to our agenda.

And what is our "agenda"? Because Im pretty sure my idea of a black agenda would be much different then yours or any far left leaning black person.. My idea of the "black agenda" looks something more like Black WallStreet, not this excessive increase on government cheese..

 

[NZA]

i dont think its debatable that white racists are comfortable in the republican party, but i think its highly debatable whether black people should go along with the democratic policy prescriptions

i think thats where imo black people have gone off the rails, regardless of how racist republicans are it doesnt follow that black people need to ride or die for the democratic party or their policy ideas

we know for sure that tim scott will not be supporting the democratic agenda....but what exactly is this "black agenda" that he is being accused of not supporting and who made this "black agenda"

methinks there is some intellectual stagnation going on here

being anti republican and and pro democrat are not one and the same

as for your question, in so much as democrats support civil rights over states rights and progressive taxation to invest in the public, i consider that to be far better for black people than the tea party positions a black republican will support. it's not perfect, but if voting between the two visions, i pick the one on the left because i think it is better for most black people. i assume that a large portion of the 85-95% of black people that consistently vote democrat are about as rational as i am on this issue. i dont detect any ride or die mentality toward democrats in general, only toward obama by some black people. blacks have switched from republican to democrat and will do so again if the agendas switch.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Raw political power is worth nothing if it isn't used to further our agenda. A black person isn't making it in the Republican Party without being anti-black. So what good does a bunch of black people do in that party? The sad fact is that there is just not enough of us to exact a real change on our own. At less than 15% of the electorate even if we all come together and make an agenda and push it, we still need "others" to help us get it realized. Unfortunately we have to side with those who have our best interests in mind, even if they aren't perfect.

This is not to say we should have blind party loyalty, but at this time in history, siding with the Democratic Party gives us our best chance at pushing policies that are friendly to our agenda.

The thing is people will call you a c00n or a slave or whatever for this but they don't understand that really is the ultimate thing a minority that small can do.... Cooperate and compromise. It's sad that it has to be boiled down to a racial narrative, but at the end of the day isnt that what democracy is supposed to be about?

Either way, the Republicans certainly aren't trying to help black people or anyone in a similar position economically, socially, politically, whatever, so y'all might as well concentrate your power in the Dems and fight internally to bring black issues and leadership to the forefront of the Democratic Party. thats what seems like the best idea to me.

 

[CACtain Planet]

being anti republican and and pro democrat are not one and the same

as for your question, in so much as democrats support civil rights over states rights and progressive taxation to invest in the public, i consider that to be far better for black people than the tea party positions a black republican will support. it's not perfect, but if voting between the two visions, i pick the one on the left because i think it is better for most black people. i assume that a large portion of the 85-95% of black people that consistently vote democrat are about as rational as i am on this issue. i dont detect any ride or die mentality toward democrats in general, only toward obama by some black people. blacks have switched from republican to democrat and will do so again if the agendas switch.

Except Civil Rights has been completely taken over by "Gay Rights" and current progressive taxation under Clinton, Bush, and Obama has not been effective in supporting public programs (budget cuts are still pervasive).. I dont think blacks as a voting bloc will ever switch from Democrats, as Lyndon Baines Johnson said "Ill have them ******s voting democrat for the next two hundred years", Obama has solidified it for another 400 years smh

 

[NZA]

Except Civil Rights has been completely taken over by "Gay Rights" and current progressive taxation under Clinton, Bush, and Obama has not been effective in supporting public programs (budget cuts are still pervasive).. I dont think blacks as a voting bloc will ever switch from Democrats, as Lyndon Baines Johnson said "Ill have them ******s voting democrat for the next two hundred years", Obama has solidified it for another 400 years smh

conservatives wanted to bring back poll taxes and literacy tests, not to mention that they literally attempt to suppress the black vote every election year. they hatched a conspiracy to destroy ACORN on top of all that. in terms of black civil rights, they have been active against you, breh. and dont think that they dont want to do more than that...

when LBJ was allegedly saying that, republicans were working on their southern strategy, so i doubt racists will be giving up the republican party anytime soon, even as it makes them losers in national elections. and if racists dont give up the party, then most self respecting black people wont join them either.

 

[theworldismine13]

being anti republican and and pro democrat are not one and the same

as for your question, in so much as democrats support civil rights over states rights and progressive taxation to invest in the public, i consider that to be far better for black people than the tea party positions a black republican will support. it's not perfect, but if voting between the two visions, i pick the one on the left because i think it is better for most black people. i assume that a large portion of the 85-95% of black people that consistently vote democrat are about as rational as i am on this issue. i dont detect any ride or die mentality toward democrats in general, only toward obama by some black people. blacks have switched from republican to democrat and will do so again if the agendas switch.

I think there is very much a ride or die, or more accurately there has been an outsourcing of the "black agenda" to the Democratic Party, I'm definitely pro civil rights and progressive taxes, but I have issues with the democratic positions when it comes to public housing, immigration and education, I think democratic policies consist of throwing some bones our way which is fine but getting crumbs is not a real economic policy

I think the ride or die is clearly shown by the reaction to Tim Scott, it's a good thing that a black man will be made senator from South Carolina, it represents an increase in black political power, people saying otherwise are just behaving as shills for democrats

 

[CACtain Planet]

conservatives wanted to bring back poll taxes and literacy tests, not to mention that they literally attempt to suppress the black vote every election year. they hatched a conspiracy to destroy ACORN on top of all that. in terms of black civil rights, they have been active against you, breh. and dont think that they dont want to do more than that...

when LBJ was allegedly saying that, republicans were working on their southern strategy, so i doubt racists will be giving up the republican party anytime soon, even as it makes them losers in national elections. and if racists dont give up the party, then most self respecting black people wont join them either.

First and foremost, you making "conservative" synonymous with acts of racisim shows how much you've bought into the white liberal narrative to scare black people into keeping on the democratic chains. As far as ACORN is concerned, that organization needed to be shut down, they treated their workers on the ground (who were mostly black) like shyt...

And no one is asking racist to give up the Republican Party, just as no one is asking Racist Gay Liberals to give up the democratic party.. All im saying is that if a black person doesnt agree with the gay agenda and slave dependence on government that the Democrats espouse, I see nothing wrong with that black person becoming a Republican.

 

[daze23]

what about the human agenda friends?

oh lord... kumbaya

 

[NZA]

I think there is very much a ride or die, or more accurately there has been an outsourcing of the "black agenda" to the Democratic Party, I'm definitely pro civil rights and progressive taxes, but I have issues with the democratic positions when it comes to public housing, immigration and education, I think democratic policies consist of throwing some bones our way which is fine but getting crumbs is not a real economic policy

I think the ride or die is clearly shown by the reaction to Tim Scott, it's a good thing that a black man will be made senator from South Carolina, it represents an increase in black political power, people saying otherwise are just behaving as shills for democrats

i dont see it as that. i see that there literally are more white racists than there are black people in the country, so one political party will be tempted to court them. in the past it was democrats, today it is republicans. the demographic with the numbers is determining how things go. as white demographics drop, we will see more complicated politics, but not until that actually happens. any other point is missing the forest for the trees.

 

[theworldismine13]

i dont see it as that. i see that there literally are more white racists than there are black people in the country, so one political party will be tempted to court them. in the past it was democrats, today it is republicans. the demographic with the numbers is determining how things go. as white demographics drop, we will see more complicated politics, but not until that actually happens. any other point is missing the forest for the trees.

maybe those "complicated politics" are already here and you are not seeing it

 

[NZA]

First and foremost, you making "conservative" synonymous with acts of racisim shows how much you've bought into the white liberal narrative to scare black people into keeping on the democratic chains. As far as ACORN is concerned, that organization needed to be shut down, they treated their workers on the ground (who were mostly black) like shyt...

And no one is asking racist to give up the Republican Party, just as no one is asking Racist Gay Liberals to give up the democratic party.. All im saying is that if a black person doesnt agree with the gay agenda and slave dependence on government that the Democrats espouse, I see nothing wrong with that black person becoming a Republican.

well, let me separate social conservatives from fiscal conservatives. one group is racist, the other just money hungry. the problem is they get along very well, so out of convenience i just say conservative and it is essentially accurate.

so you support conspiracies aimed at destroying community-based organizations that attempt to do for the people what nobody else is willing to do? interesting...

i have never spoken on scott before, but if i call someone a tom, it will be a combination of their policies and their demeanor. even before colin powell broke ranks with his party to start going against the neocon agenda, i never actually saw him as an uncle tom. i also never felt jc watts or even condoleeza were toms. so i cant speak for everybody else, but i have some fairly high standards for when i label someone a tom, and it is usually not strictly a policy thing. i have to hear that person speak on blacks before i really get that feeling. im not casual and reckless with it.