In 97 after Biggie died Howard Stern had a East/West Rap summit to squash beef

[DanielAlfredsson]

The thing about Howard is he totally doesn't get hip hop music or culture. Though he often cites that he grew up in a black neighborhood, it was in the 60's, long before the creation of rap music.

So I don't think he has respected their artistry, or even seen what rappers do as art. He's said as much, that it's just talking over music (though to be fair, when he heard Bubba The Love Sponge's awful raps, he recognized there are good rappers and bad ones).

However, I do think the Jay-Z interview was a bit of a turning point for him in that regard, and I think it was more to do with the book, which demonstrated how rap lyrics are more like poetry than anything else.

 

[Majestic Pape]

I don't think 50 would have dissed Farrakhan hard, he wouldn't want the beef that would go along with that.

People aren't not dissing Farrakhan because they're scared, most Black people don't diss Farrakhan because they respect him.

 

[The Ruler 09]

People aren't not dissing Farrakhan because they're scared, most Black people don't diss Farrakhan because they respect him.

Some peoeple diss because they are scared and some people respect him. Obviously not of Farrakhan but the F.O.I.

 

[smokeurobinson]

I'm Cape Verdean you stupid fukk. Both of my parents are from Africa.

Your bloodline hasn't seen Africa since when? The 1700's?


Because someone doesn't agree with you they are automatically white? LOL. You must get a long great in the corporate world. Guessing that's why you're working the fryalator?

I wasn't sure at first but now I know you're white..

 

[smokeurobinson]

The thing about Howard is he totally doesn't get hip hop music or culture. Though he often cites that he grew up in a black neighborhood, it was in the 60's, long before the creation of rap music.

So I don't think he has respected their artistry, or even seen what rappers do as art. .

This is true...He doesnt embrace the culture like he does with Rock and Roll....Howard asked Loaded Lux to spit the verse that killed Calicoe and after he did Howard just sh*tted on him by saying he didnt know what the fuk he was talking about.....LOL....Howard totally stood out with how much he is out of tune with the culture when he did that. He also once said that he cant tell the difference between how Eminem raps and Vanilla Ice raps...he was playing them next to each other and kept saying he doesnt hear anydifference.....Robin got her Black on for a second to school him that there was a big difference. A funny moment I remember was when Howard had Jay Z on in 2003 when Jay and Nas were still going at it and Howard kept mispronouncing Nas' name and saying Naaz and Jay wouldnt correct him, he just played along and refered to him as Naaz as well.

 

[DanielAlfredsson]

This is true...He doesnt embrace the culture like he does with Rock and Roll....Howard asked Loaded Lux to spit the verse that killed Calicoe and after he did Howard just sh*tted on him by saying he didnt know what the fuk he was talking about.....LOL....Howard totally stood out with how much he is out of tune with the culture when he did that. He also once said that he cant tell the difference between how Eminem raps and Vanilla Ice raps...he was playing them next to each other and kept saying he doesnt hear anydifference.....Robin got her Black on for a second to school him that there was a big difference. A funny moment I remember was when Howard had Jay Z on in 2003 when Jay and Nas were still going at it and Howard kept mispronouncing Nas' name and saying Naaz and Jay wouldnt correct him, he just played along and refered to him as Naaz as well.

Yup you nailed it breh. And I don't know why people are surprised Howard doesn't get rap music/culture. He's a 59 year old Jewish white guy who's been a millionaire for at least 20 years and spends his weekends in the Hampton's, and not the Puff Daddy Hamptons, but the Billy Joel Hamptons. He's sort of not supposed to get rap music.

 

[smokeurobinson]

Yup you nailed it breh. And I don't know why people are surprised Howard doesn't get rap music/culture. He's a 59 year old Jewish white guy who's been a millionaire for at least 20 years and spends his weekends in the Hampton's, and not the Puff Daddy Hamptons, but the Billy Joel Hamptons. He's sort of not supposed to get rap music.

Thats why I will always give it up to Star because as great as Howard was and is...Star was the one dude thatseemd to have Howard on edge..He acted like Star didnt exist yet he would go in on, Rush Limbugh, Opie and Anthony and Imus all day.....He even acknowledged Funk Master Flex and Ed Lover but he acted like Star didnt exist because Star was the Hip Hip version of Howard....where Howard lacked in Black culture Star filled that void. I think Star and Ja Rule had some sort of 'spins per hour' deal where he had Ja name drop Stars name while he was on his show......And Howard changed the subject quick...LOL...He would always change the subject whenever Stars name was brought up. When Howard was beefing with Clear Channel and a caller mentioned that Star was Clear Channels new go to guy who would be up against Howard he changed the subject quick. I think Star reminded Howard of one of those bullies that used to beat him up when he was a kid. And Star was sh*tting on Howard..calling him out and all Howard did was act like he didnt exist. That strategy worked to..Star was the only radio personality that I've witness Howard switch up his whole steez on some 'im not gonna have a war of words with this guy' sh*t.

 

[DanielAlfredsson]

Thats why I will always give it up to Star because as great as Howard was and is...Star was the one dude that Howard never went in on...He acted like Star didnt exist yet he would go in on, Rush Limbugh, Opie and Anthony and Imus all day.....He even acknowledged Funk Master Flex and Ed Lover but he acted like Star didnt exist because Star was the Hip Hip version of Howard....where Howard lacked in Black culture Star filled that void. I think Star and Ja Rule had some sort of 'spins per hour' deal where he had Ja name drop Stars name while he was on his show......And Howard changed the subject quick...LOL...He would always change the subject whenever Stars name was brought up. When Howard was beefing with Clear Channel and a caller mentioned that Star was Clear Channels new go to guy who would be up against Howard he changed the subject quick. I think Star reminded Howard of one of those bullies that used to beat him up when he was a kid. And Star was sh*tting on Howard..calling him out and all Howard did was act like he didnt exist. That strategy worked to..Star was the only radio personality that really shook up Howard.

Ehhhh I think that might be a reach. I don't think Howard has ever viewed black radio as real competition to him to be honest.

 

[smokeurobinson]

Ehhhh I think that might be a reach. I don't think Howard has ever viewed black radio as real competition to him to be honest.

But Howards bragging right was ratings and at one point Star was beating him in the ratings.

 

[DanielAlfredsson]

But Howards bragging right was ratings and at one point Star was beating him in the ratings.

Did he really or is this something Star said that you believed? Because as best I can recall, in NY Stern never lost a ratings book to anyone (except the Latin station at the end of his K-Rock run), despite them all claiming they had better ratings.

 

[blackzeus]

I will add though that while I don't think that Howard Stern sits there and hates black people all day....he does have some resentment towards us.

Yeah, he got his ass whooped by black dudes in high school. I got into fights all the time with white cats growin' up, but I don't hate whites. I guess it's a CAC thing

 

[blackzeus]

Did he really or is this something Star said that you believed? Because as best I can recall, in NY Stern never lost a ratings book to anyone (except the Latin station at the end of his K-Rock run), despite them all claiming they had better ratings.

Breh, Stern has his own Sirius channel. Star is on youtube. #theend

 

[DanielAlfredsson]

Breh, Stern has his own Sirius channel. Star is on youtube. #theend

True, but there was a time when Star & Buckwild were popping in NY radio and had good ratings, I just don't think they were ever touching Stern, unless we're talking something specific like Blacks & Hispanic 18-34 or something, which are really just demos referenced when its advantageous.

Star's problem was he couldn't, or wouldn't, play the corporate game that's required to succeed in radio. You can take your dikk out and piss on the executives when you're at Stern or Rush Limbaugh's level, and Star was never there yet he acted like it. The stories of his fukkery up at Hot 97, smashing plaques and shyt, are legendary.

 

[blackzeus]

True, but there was a time when Star & Buckwild were popping in NY radio and had good ratings, I just don't think they were ever touching Stern, unless we're talking something specific like Blacks & Hispanic 18-34 or something, which are really just demos referenced when its advantageous.

Star's problem was he couldn't, or wouldn't, play the corporate game that's required to succeed in radio. You can take your dikk out and piss on the executives when you're at Stern or Rush Limbaugh's level, and Star was never there yet he acted like it. The stories of his fukkery up at Hot 97, smashing plaques and shyt, are legendary.

Yeah breh, my point was that Star isn't in Stern's league. Star isn't even in Jamie Foxx's league. He is a legend though in the radio game.

 

[smokeurobinson]

Did he really or is this something Star said that you believed? Because as best I can recall, in NY Stern never lost a ratings book to anyone (except the Latin station at the end of his K-Rock run), despite them all claiming they had better ratings.

I believe it was in the demographics.....But here's the thing. U say he might not have been worried about Black radio which might be true but it sure looked funny when you had one man going in on Howard extra heavy and Howard doesnt go in like he normally would. And those times when he did acknowledge Star he would never insult,,,he would always come off as if he's schooling Star about how he was being used. It was awkward watching Howard fall back when he usually goes in on people who attack him, regardless of who or where they were from.

Yeah breh, my point was that Star isn't in Stern's league. Star isn't even in Jamie Foxx's league. He is a legend though in the radio game.

That doesnt take away from the fact that Howard had a rep for going in on those who go in on him yet when Star did it..Howard acted like nothing was happening even tho Star attacked him constantly. Like I said before Star made him switch up his whole steez.