I'll name this offseason thread later: The NBA 2019 Offseason/Free Agency Thread

god shamgod

Veteran
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
33,220
Reputation
3,896
Daps
96,332
The only year both of them were all-stars was 2017. Which was also the only year both of them actually made it to the end of the postseason healthy. And that just happened to be the year that their Finals opponent fielded a team with 4 All-stars on it not even counting the Finals MVP from two years earlier.

And come on breh, LeBron's Cavs swept the #1 seed 60-win Hawks in 2015 without Love OR Irving, and they swept the #1 seed 59-win Raptors in 2018 without Irving even on the team.

So your argument is that LeBron is so good that any time he plays with 1-2 other all-stars, it becomes a super-team?

Or is your argument that all teams with 3 all-stars are "super-teams", even if they're not even as good as other teams with only 1-2 all-stars cause their other players suck?

Kyrie 2 all star games before july 2014(all star mvp in 2014), kevin love 3 all star games before july 2014.

both had been all stars multiple times and love had been all nba twice BEFORE joining lebron.
 

Illin Degenerate

All Star
Joined
Jun 14, 2012
Messages
2,120
Reputation
341
Daps
3,554
Reppin
NULL
Just to be clear, you're counting Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, JR Smith, and Tristan Thompson, coached by Ty Lue, as a "super team", right?
3 top 15 scorers from the previous season, 3 multiple time all stars all under 30. you wouldnt be downplaying a squad with that kind of resume if bron was competing against it rather than actually on it.
 

Houston911

Super Moderator
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
46,875
Reputation
13,805
Daps
198,687
This website needs a sarcasm font lol

Wait one got damn minute

First of all, Durant was ONLY able to sign to the warriors because the players union (led by lebron and Chris paul) voted against cap smoothening so we had an outrageous jump in the cap which gave the warriors enough room to add a max player

Are you trying to tell me that this william o’neal ass nicca exercising his right as a free agent and taking his market value on a team that gave him the best chance to win is somehow similar to 3 courageous freedom fighters leaving money on the table so they could stack the deck and tilt the odds in their favor?

I can’t stand you niccas man :scust:
 

Squirrel from Meteor Man

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Apr 16, 2015
Messages
26,634
Reputation
3,192
Daps
119,015
Name the championships Magic Johnson won without any Hall of Famers

Name MJs titles without Hall of Famers

Name Larry Bird’s titles without Hall of Famers

:dontplayman:
He used the term superstar, not Hall of Famer. MJ and Larry never had another top 5 player on his team. Lebron is potentially going to have 2 of the top 5 (arguably top 3) players in the league. It’s unheard of and only being excused by the media because it’s Lebron
 

Illin Degenerate

All Star
Joined
Jun 14, 2012
Messages
2,120
Reputation
341
Daps
3,554
Reppin
NULL
Don't forget Malone and Payton to Lakers

Nash and Dwight to Lakers

KG and Ray Allen to Celtics

And I'm LWO but calling it like it is... even though they didn't work they were still super teams :yeshrug:
i dont think any of those moves are close to the same level as the recent super teams. 03-04 lakers kobe was the only all star under 30, though they had 3 all stars the previous year. 12-13 lakers dwight the only all star under 30 and coming off an injury. the celtics big 3 were closer to their peak considering there were 3 top 17 scorers from the previous season but only one top 10 scorer (allen no.7), and all 3 were over 30. same thing with the barkley rockets, they were teaming up trying to contend for a championship rather than stacking the deck for easy rings.

grading the "weakness" of forming these teams are all relative to when it happens and whats their competition at the time.
 

2Quik4UHoes

Why you had to go?
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
63,295
Reputation
18,320
Daps
235,185
Reppin
Norfeast groovin…
Where have I heard this before? :jbhmm:

Real shyt tho, I never blamed the Warriors for getting KD, it was KD that I was mad at. But good teams do what they gotta do. And as much as I might not like what KD did he did what he wanted to do and earned that right. To compare that to Kawhi just because is lazy and selfish on the media’s part.

I’m watching Get Up and literally not one person made a case for why signing with the Lakers is bad for Kawhi. Just that their viewing experience will be ruined as if they won’t be glued to the TV chatting it up like some thots anyway. NFL parity don’t work in the NBA, if they want that then these bum ass teams need to do a better job out here. Collectively the league should build a better training infrastructure for the youth so more prospects can come up the ranks. But hatin on teams that make moves is bytch shyt.
 

YaThreadTrashB!

Superstar
Joined
Jan 28, 2014
Messages
7,727
Reputation
1,491
Daps
30,657
Wait one got damn minute

First of all, Durant was ONLY able to sign to the warriors because the players union (led by lebron and Chris paul) voted against cap smoothening so we had an outrageous jump in the cap which gave the warriors enough room to add a max player

Are you trying to tell me that this william o’neal ass nicca exercising his right as a free agent and taking his market value on a team that gave him the best chance to win is somehow similar to 3 courageous freedom fighters leaving money on the table so they could stack the deck and tilt the odds in their favor?

I can’t stand you niccas man :scust:
And don’t forget since curry had twizzlers for ankles and he was only getting 12m a year. That is the real reason they had enough space
 

Joe Sixpack

Build and Destroy
Supporter
Joined
May 11, 2012
Messages
39,077
Reputation
4,989
Daps
110,118
Reppin
Rotten Apple
He used the term superstar, not Hall of Famer. MJ and Larry never had another top 5 player on his team. Lebron is potentially going to have 2 of the top 5 (arguably top 3) players in the league. It’s unheard of and only being excused by the media because it’s Lebron
What about Scottie Pippen?

What about Kevin McHale?

What about James Worthy or Kareem Abdul Jabbar?

:dontplayman:
 

Joe Sixpack

Build and Destroy
Supporter
Joined
May 11, 2012
Messages
39,077
Reputation
4,989
Daps
110,118
Reppin
Rotten Apple
Wait one got damn minute

First of all, Durant was ONLY able to sign to the warriors because the players union (led by lebron and Chris paul) voted against cap smoothening so we had an outrageous jump in the cap which gave the warriors enough room to add a max player

Are you trying to tell me that this william o’neal ass nicca exercising his right as a free agent and taking his market value on a team that gave him the best chance to win is somehow similar to 3 courageous freedom fighters leaving money on the table so they could stack the deck and tilt the odds in their favor?

I can’t stand you niccas man :scust:
No...

Kevin Durant was able to sign with the Warriors because of a confluence of events..

Draymond being a 2nd Rounder and taking David Lee’s job. Lee was traded creating space.

Steph Curry’s ankles being constantly messed up to the point his 2nd contract was only 4 years $44 million

That’s why they were able to sign him

Had nothing to do with Bron and Chris Paul

:what:
 

G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman

Logic Is Absent Wherever Hate Is Present
Joined
May 12, 2012
Messages
79,939
Reputation
5,706
Daps
234,987
No...

Kevin Durant was able to sign with the Warriors because of a confluence of events..

Draymond being a 2nd Rounder and taking David Lee’s job. Lee was traded creating space.

Steph Curry’s ankles being constantly messed up to the point his 2nd contract was only 4 years $44 million

That’s why they were able to sign him

Had nothing to do with Bron and Chris Paul

:what:
Sarcasm breh.
 

Professor Emeritus

Veteran
Poster of the Year
Supporter
Joined
Jan 5, 2015
Messages
51,330
Reputation
19,692
Daps
203,918
Reppin
the ether
them nikkas wasnt on different teams calling each other up and asking each other to join each other's team's cuz they couldnt win nikka :hhh: what team out east is a threat for them 3 nikkas to all be on the same team ? yall sound stupid as fukk...like i said my post wasn't really bout the superteams im sayin yall gotta stop sayin this nikka better than mike or kobe....pistons whipped mj ass like 4 years straight that nikka aint call no hakeem or barkley....
So Kareem didn't threaten to quit the NBA and join the ABA instead if his team didn't trade him to the Lakers? Magic didn't leave college as a sophomore purposely to team up with Kareem and the Lakers? He didn't say that if the Bulls got the draft pick he would have stayed in college for another year?

Wilt didn't force the owner to rip up his 3-year contract and then threatened to quit and join the ABA if he didn't get traded to the Lakers, who already had prime Jerry West and prime Elgin Baylor?

Shaq didn't ditch the Magic for a 53-win Lakers team that already had 3 guys who were made the all-star team between 1995 and 1998 (not even counting Kobe)?

The Celtics didn't have 7 HOFers in the 1960s? Wilt didn't have at least 3, sometimes 4 HOFers on every single team he played for? The Celtics didn't have 5 HOFers simultaneously in the 1980s? The Lakers didn't have 4 HOFers simultaneously in the 1980s? The Bulls didn't have 3 HOFers and the arguable GOAT coach in the late 1990s? The Lakers didn't have 4 guys make the all-star team in 1998, or form "super teams" of 4 HOFers at a time in 2004 and 2013? The Spurs didn't have 3-4 HOFers and the other arguable GOAT coach for more than a decade? The Warriors didn't have 4 all-stars in their primes with all-NBA resumes for three straight years until just now?

It's just a stupid talking point. Literally every player who has had his name in the GOAT conversation has been on teams like this. The others either forced their way onto such teams or got lucky getting drafted into an organization who knew how to build one. Whereas LeBron was stuck getting drafted onto the fukking Cavs, so he had to take matters into this own hands.

Your ONLY problem is that LeBron did it himself rather than sitting on his ass and praying that the White "owner" would do it for him. :camby:






i dont think any of those moves are close to the same level as the recent super teams. 03-04 lakers kobe was the only all star under 30, though they had 3 all stars the previous year. 12-13 lakers dwight the only all star under 30 and coming off an injury. the celtics big 3 were closer to their peak considering there were 3 top 17 scorers from the previous season but only one top 10 scorer (allen no.7), and all 3 were over 30. same thing with the barkley rockets, they were teaming up trying to contend for a championship rather than stacking the deck for easy rings.

grading the "weakness" of forming these teams are all relative to when it happens and whats their competition at the time.
I love how your talking points make Kevin Love a bigger deal than Shaq or Garnett or Pau. :mjlol:

Or make it like overcoming the 2003 Spurs was a bigger ask than the 2016 Warriors. :dead:

Every time someone says that LeBron "stacked the deck for easy rings", I ask them which of LeBron's rings came easy. :stopitslime:




Kyrie 2 all star games before july 2014(all star mvp in 2014), kevin love 3 all star games before july 2014.

both had been all stars multiple times and love had been all nba twice BEFORE joining lebron.
And what did Love do after he joined? Turned out to be a piece of dog shyt when he wasn't stat-padding for a bottom-feeder team. :mjlol:

It wasn't like LeBron did that to him - his own GM predicted that the Cavs would find out who the real K-Love was when the trade was made.

You're big upping a guy who averaged 8 and 6 on 36% shooting in the Cavs only Finals win. :dead:
 
Top