If you were a mutant would you fukk with Xavier or Magneto?

[Seoul Gleou]

Folk are saying, "Magneto is Malcolm", but that seems to be an urban legend. The writer who gave Magneto a sympathetic backstory and made him more than just a villain is a White Jewish guy who says that Magneot was actually inspired by Menachem Begin, the leader of the Zionist terrorist group Jewish Defense League who later rose to power and became Prime Minister of Israel.

Professor X & Magneto Were NOT Based On Martin Luther King & Malcolm X

Actually, Stan Lee Didn’t Base Marvel’s Prof. X & Magneto on Malcolm X & Martin Luther King Jr.






Professor X is not based on MLK Jr. and is nothing like him.

MLK practiced ideological nonviolence, while Professor X is just a typical American neoliberal who thinks he can wield violence as a tool. Yet at the same time MLK was extremely militant and willing to force his vision through, whereas Professor X comparatively is far more passive until circumstances give him no choice.

The writer of the series said Professor X is actually based on David Ben-Gurion, the founder and first Prime Minister of Israel.





Seeing how MLK's vision turned out? What does that even mean? America as it is was never MLK's vision - he got the first steps done but was killed long before the vast majority of his vision was realized (and if you blame him for his vision failing, then you have to blame Malcolm for the exact same failure).

They are stand ins for MLK and Malcom X. Chris Claremont is Jewish so of course when he started writing he envisioned Jews and the, then new state of Israel, as stand ins for Xavier and Magneto. X-Men itself was born during the civil rights era and was a reflection of that time in America and its racism towards black people.

So while Claremont may be the most prolific writer of X-Men, he didn't create it. Its actual creators drew from what was happening at the time.

 

[ORDER_66]

The newyst Hickman x men comics pretty much come to the conclusion that magneto was right; he just didn't have the resources and temperment to go about it the right way.

I mean the humans deserve it fukk em xmen not making murderous sentinels that kill super powered humans, the american govt is, did the avengers or any one at shield intervened when cyclops asked??? that shyt pissed me off

 

[that guy]

Folk are saying, "Magneto is Malcolm", but that seems to be an urban legend. The writer who gave Magneto a sympathetic backstory and made him more than just a villain is a White Jewish guy who says that Magneot was actually inspired by Menachem Begin, the leader of the Zionist terrorist group Jewish Defense League who later rose to power and became Prime Minister of Israel.

Professor X & Magneto Were NOT Based On Martin Luther King & Malcolm X

Actually, Stan Lee Didn’t Base Marvel’s Prof. X & Magneto on Malcolm X & Martin Luther King Jr.






Professor X is not based on MLK Jr. and is nothing like him.

MLK practiced ideological nonviolence, while Professor X is just a typical American neoliberal who thinks he can wield violence as a tool. Yet at the same time MLK was extremely militant and willing to force his vision through, whereas Professor X comparatively is far more passive until circumstances give him no choice.

The writer of the series said Professor X is actually based on David Ben-Gurion, the founder and first Prime Minister of Israel.





Seeing how MLK's vision turned out? What does that even mean? America as it is was never MLK's vision - he got the first steps done but was killed long before the vast majority of his vision was realized (and if you blame him for his vision failing, then you have to blame Malcolm for the exact same failure).

Wrong. Stan lee created magneto and Malcolm x in 1963 during the height of the civil rights movement. Not only are the characters based on MLK and Malcolm x but the entire storyline is an allegory for the civil rights movement.

“I couldn't have everybody bitten by a radioactive spider or zapped with gamma rays, and it occurred to me that if I just said that they were mutants, it would make it easy. Then it occurred to me that instead of them just being heroes that everybody admired, what if I made other people fear and suspect and actually hate them because they were different? I loved that idea; it not only made them different, but it was a good metaphor for what was happening with the Civil Rights Movement in the country at that time.- Stan lee

I’ll take the actual creators word over some millennials blog post.

MLK’s “dream” was of a fully integrated society where blacks and whites coexisted peacefully in which he saw wasn’t possible before his death. That’s why he stated “I fear I’ve integrated my people into a burning house”

He then decided to go the Malcolm x direction and demand reparations which led to his assassination.

 

[that guy]

They are stand ins for MLK and Malcom X. Chris Claremont is Jewish so of course when he started writing he envisioned Jews and the, then new state of Israel, as stand ins for Xavier and Magneto. X-Men itself was born during the civil rights era and was a reflection of that time in America and its racism towards black people.

So while Claremont may be the most prolific writer of X-Men, he didn't create it. Its actual creators drew from what was happening at the time.

Just came in to say this. Stan lee himself said the Malcolm x and magneto storyline was an allegory for the civil rights movement and he created the characters in 1963. He did the same thing with black panther.

 

[42 Monks]

A lot of yal choosing Xavier

but would Xavier choose yal?

 

[42 Monks]

Team cyclops…he defeated magneto repeatedly and put professor x in the dirt

literally

and sonned the avengers

people sleep

comic cyclops would be disgusted with the cartoon and movie versions

 

[ndthentherewasx]

Both.

But on my own.

Fukk a team or following another man's flawed ideologies.

 

[Rozay Oro]

Storm can get this dikk

 

[invincible1914]

X-Men were a bunch of passing c00ns


Only the beautiful may apply

I think most of TLR would fukk with Apocalypse
He epitomizes HYON

Nikka be like "welfare for loose coochie ass homo superior hoes! Should have thought about that before you laid down!"

Magneto all day. Everybody has iron in their body....

Reading people minds is the most overrated super power. I will just end up depressed knowing what goes on in these savage minds out here.

Apocalypse aint nothing but an overrated jobber. He always runs his mouth and he always loses. Can't even get with no females cause you look weird. Naw.

 

[OsO]

Magneto.

Xavier is dreaming thinking the white supremacist government/military of the US will ever peacefully coexist with mutants. They can't peacefully co-exist with anyone, including themselves.

But this time the marginalized communities have mutant powers to even the playing field

 

[MajesticLion]

Dude, I totally forgot all about Gateway

Never doubt my X-Men nerd-dom

It's only rivalled around here by the esteemed scholar @Days of Future Piff

 

[Doobie Doo]

A lot of yal choosing Xavier

but would Xavier choose yal?

"There's a few items missing from the mansion." Knows Wolverine took them.

 

[High Art]

The newyst Hickman x men comics pretty much come to the conclusion that magneto was right; he just didn't have the resources and temperment to go about it the right way.

I was about to post this. It's really good and glad they are really showing how a true mutant society would run. That said, I can't help but feel parallels between the society they've built up and society in regards to the black population. The way world is reacting to the mutants, it really does seem like how people would lose their shyt whenever the Black community does something good. I was "a white guy wrote this? How?"

Storm can get this dikk

She can get this dikk.

 

[Rozay Oro]

She can get this dikk.

fukk you and yo smeat nikka. She getting MY dikk

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Wrong. Stan lee created magneto and Malcolm x in 1963 during the height of the civil rights movement. Not only are the characters based on MLK and Malcolm x but the entire storyline is an allegory for the civil rights movement.

They are stand ins for MLK and Malcom X. Chris Claremont is Jewish so of course when he started writing he envisioned Jews and the, then new state of Israel, as stand ins for Xavier and Magneto. X-Men itself was born during the civil rights era and was a reflection of that time in America and its racism towards black people.

So while Claremont may be the most prolific writer of X-Men, he didn't create it. Its actual creators drew from what was happening at the time.

You ignored that in the Magneto that Stan Lee created in 1963 was just a typical villain with no nuance, no oppressed backstory. 40 years later Lee started talking about him as being more nuanced but that's not in the original stories. In what way was he a stand-in for Malcolm X? Do you see Malcolm X as a genocidal villain too?

“I couldn't have everybody bitten by a radioactive spider or zapped with gamma rays, and it occurred to me that if I just said that they were mutants, it would make it easy. Then it occurred to me that instead of them just being heroes that everybody admired, what if I made other people fear and suspect and actually hate them because they were different? I loved that idea; it not only made them different, but it was a good metaphor for what was happening with the Civil Rights Movement in the country at that time.- Stan lee

He says the mutants were hated because they were different and that made them similar to Black folk, he doesn't say jack shyt about Magneto being based on Malcolm X. What did Stan Lee's original Magneto have in common with Malcolm at all?

I’ll take the actual creators word over some millennials blog post.

Except the links directly quote the writer of the main Magneto storylines saying that he wasn't basing Magneto on Malcolm. And the Stan Lee quote doesn't say he based Magneto on Malcolm.

MLK’s “dream” was of a fully integrated society where blacks and whites coexisted peacefully in which he saw wasn’t possible before his death. That’s why he stated “I fear I’ve integrated my people into a burning house”

He then decided to go the Malcolm x direction and demand reparations which led to his assassination.

That's not what that quote means at all.

MLK Jr's dream was always for societal reform at every level, that's why the US Government considered him a communist. He was referring to the USA as a "burning house" because he felt it was already a systematic failure even besides the racial issue. In the quote American society is a burning house, not integration. That's why he started the Poor People's Campaign. That wasn't some new shyt he suddenly realized, it was always part of his vision. The USA that existed after MLK's death was a world away from what MLK was envisioning.

And he didn't "go the Malcolm X direction", that doesn't even make sense because Malcolm X's main drive was never economic reform at the government level like MLK was pushing at the end of his life. And you just casually omit that Malcolm X converted to true Islam and embraced solidarity with White allies at the end of his life.