"If you trust me, you’ll get the vaccine," Morgan Freeman

[that guy]

Imagine passing bunk "doctors" and a report from an account called "People1stPlanet" as scientific fact.

"Boosting" your immune system neither prevents infection, stops you from getting "long Covid" or stops you from spreading it to others.

Bro are you a medical professional that’s studying peer reviewed journals or are you getting your COVID information from the internet just like the people you’re belittling? Vitamin D deficiency is linked to increased infection rates in Many illnesses. You can’t take vitamin D to prevent COVID but making sure you’re not vitamin D deficient in the first place may boost your autoimmune response to COVID which may end up saving your life. Studies have shown that black people in places like America are deficient in vitamin D due to lack of sun exposure. Also, a lot of studies I have read regarding vitamin D and COVID are testing people who were already infected with COVID which is not the right approach to using vitamin to increase the immune response to COVID.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

This type of thinking is as just as dumb ironically. Most people that don’t want the THIS vaccine get vaccinated every year and have an extensive vaccination record starting from birth. Why don’t YOU get your vaccine and let people make their own decisions? This vaccine was expedited so people have the right to be cautious especially black people.

the vaccine development was a continuation Of the previous research we had with sars/mers/other coronaviruses. Hence the reason they immediately knew to target the spike protein.

Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

 

[NinoBrown]

This type of thinking is as just as dumb ironically. Most people that don’t want the THIS vaccine get vaccinated every year and have an extensive vaccination record starting from birth. Why don’t YOU get your vaccine and let people make their own decisions? This vaccine was expedited so people have the right to be cautious especially black people.

Why are people labeling other people that don’t want the COVID-19 anti-vaxxers? A lot people that don’t want the vaccine get vaccinated every year, they just don’t trust the COVID-19 vaccine yet. I work with doctors that don’t want the shot yet. Why can’t grown adults make their own decisions? The same people disparaging the “anti-vaxxers” are most likely either morbidly obese or have a loved one that’s obese and won’t say a word but when it comes to COVID-19, they’re everyone’s primary physician all of a sudden.

Trump/GOP Tin Foil talking points I swear, "Let me live me life". Took the vaccine since I work for a government body, no problems since I was vaccinated last month....No extra arms, no seizures, positive antibodies in subsequent PCR tests.

All the anti-vaxxers here have no problem going maskless and "Living their life" but are afraid of a preventive measure....

Covid isn't "a little flu" it is lethal in the wrong circumstances, so there is no need to embrace GOP/Trumptard talking points....

 

[that guy]

the vaccine development was a continuation Of the previous research we had with sars/mers/other coronaviruses. Hence the reason they immediately knew to target the spike protein.

Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

The scientist were researching a coronavirus vaccine which is a broad family of viruses which likely wouldn’t have been effective on COVID-19. There’s testing being done to make sure the current series of vaccines will even work on various mutations of COVID-19 let alone a different coronavirus. mRNA vaccines were being studied for other viruses outside of coronaviruses. Also, look at this quote from the article:

“Early efforts to develop a SARS vaccine in animal trials were plagued by a phenomenon known as "vaccine-induced enhancement," in which recipients exhibit worse symptoms after being injected — something Fauci said researchers must be mindful of as they work to quickly develop a vaccine to protect against COVID-19.”

Vaccines will sometimes be discontinued even AFTER they pass clinical trials. I’m not saying this is the case with the COVID-19 vaccine but people have the right to be cautious.

 

[GoAggieGo.]

Why are people labeling other people that don’t want the COVID-19 anti-vaxxers? A lot people that don’t want the vaccine get vaccinated every year, they just don’t trust the COVID-19 vaccine yet. I work with doctors that don’t want the shot yet. Why can’t grown adults make their own decisions? The same people disparaging the “anti-vaxxers” are most likely either morbidly obese or have a loved one that’s obese and won’t say a word but when it comes to COVID-19, they’re everyone’s primary physician all of a sudden.

It’s a ploy to get the mob on you. They call you that in order to get others to join in, with hopes of pressuring you and others to go along with their views or ways. Those individuals are usually manipulators at best, liars at worst. They recognize the power in what they’re doing.

Im no “anti-vaxxer”, as I’ve taken vaccines all my life, and will take this one when I feel comfortable in doing so. Most of the people being called anti-vaxxers are the same. Just stand on your square.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

The scientist were researching a coronavirus vaccine which is a broad family of viruses which likely wouldn’t have been effective on COVID-19. There’s testing being done to make sure the current series of vaccines will even work on various mutations of COVID-19 let alone a different coronavirus. mRNA vaccines were being studied for other viruses outside of coronaviruses. Also, look at this quote from the article:

“Early efforts to develop a SARS vaccine in animal trials were plagued by a phenomenon known as "vaccine-induced enhancement," in which recipients exhibit worse symptoms after being injected — something Fauci said researchers must be mindful of as they work to quickly develop a vaccine to protect against COVID-19.”

Vaccines will sometimes be discontinued even AFTER they pass clinical trials. I’m not saying this is the case with the COVID-19 vaccine but people have the right to be cautious.

And...

How does that support your argument that it was expedited?

As for the last bolded statement what vaccines were recalled years after clinical trials. That is usually something that happens with medications since they alter your body's biochemistry after prolonged usage

 

[god shamgod]

This. Hell, I can simply reduce (and even eliminate some of) the symptoms with just the supplemented tonic teas I make in addition to boosting my immune system and actively expelling mucus from my body.

fukk I need a damn vaccine for that shyt for when I can do it the natural way instead of some laboratory shyt that the media got these dumbass kneegrows so shook into taking willingly?

Can’t fukking stand sheep.

Vitamin d & tonic teas

Meanwhile Brazil getting bum rushed by a mutated variant , y’all so fukkin stupid.if these were effective treatments then why are hospitals being bombarded by sick people

 

[that guy]

Trump/GOP Tin Foil talking points I swear, "Let me live me life". Took the vaccine since I work for a government body, no problems since I was vaccinated last month....No extra arms, no seizures, positive antibodies in subsequent PCR tests.

All the anti-vaxxers here have no problem going maskless and "Living their life" but are afraid of a preventive measure....

Covid isn't "a little flu" it is lethal in the wrong circumstances, so there is no need to embrace GOP/Trumptard talking points....

That’s great for you I hope you live a long life. I didn’t get the vaccine yet and I’ve been working with COVID positive patients probably before you even knew what COVID was. Why are you so invested in someone else’s health decisions?
A lot of the people being cautious of the COVID vaccine are black people who are 90% democrat so what is this trump nonsense you’re talking about? You must be looking for daps.
You know what else is lethal? Cigarettes, alcohol, fast food, etc you aren’t the health police then but now you’re a vaccine expert?

 

[that guy]

And...

How does that support your argument that it was expedited?

As for the last bolded statement what vaccines were recalled years after clinical trials. That is usually something that happens with medications since they alter your body's biochemistry after prolonged usage

You posted the article stating they were close to a coronavirus vaccine yet the article clearly says not only were they not close but the research they had wasn’t even safe on animals let alone humans. You actually proved my point of why people should be cautious. Vaccines can be recalled simply due to an error in the manufacturing process. The Johnson and Johnson COVID-19 vaccine was recalled due to this issue. Vaccines contain metals such as aluminum and mercury which if not manufactured properly can seriously harm or even kill you. When you’re rushing the process obviously mistakes will happen.

The COVID vaccine being expedited is a fact that’s not up for debate. Here’s an NIH article Expedited COVID-19 vaccine trials: a rat-race with challenges and ethical issues

Compressed Timelines: the standard vaccine development cycle, including research & development (phase I to IV of clinical trials), manufacturing, approvals, licensing, distribution and deployment take several years. But the COVID-19 pandemic storm has compressed the timelines of coronavirus vaccine development to a few months. There are several obstacles to meet these shortened deadlines: geopolitical issues, international politics and competitions, social distancing and guidelines mandating closedown of laboratories across globe, optimum manufacturing of billions of doses and licensing, and quick global distribution of vaccines. The major threat to the compressed timeline is curtailment and compromise in different steps of research and development.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

First off, they DO work. A vitamin d3 supplement will, in fact, increase your vitamin d levels.

Increasing Vitamin D levels doesn't reduce the chance of infection to the degree the vaccine does.​

Second, are you seriously suggesting that generic vit d3 would produce as must profit as a vaccine mandated by all world governments? And all subsequent booster shots?

Generic vitamin sales would profit MORE than the vaccine. Here's how:. Vaccine doses are about $20 ea. You get 2 of them, that's $40......and that's it. Boosters would only be necessary if traveling to places where the infection rate is high. Vitamin sales, on the other hand, would skyrocket due to the current crisis and cost about as much as BOTH doses of vaccine. Since people use vitamins for YEARS, the sales would be considerably longer and higher without any payout for R&D or any further investment other than that which increases production.​

Third, big pharma makes the majority of its profits through hmo's.... which don't generally cover supplements.

They make the majority of their profits from the drugs they develop which have to be approved by the FDA. This process costs about $2 billion for each drug. Vitamin Supplements, on the other hand, do not and account for like $140 Billion in revenue. To give you an idea, Pfizer stands to make a total of about $60 billion this year due to vaccine sales, but that's just $20 billion more than the $40 billion they already made selling other products in previous years. After this pandemic is over, their numbers will drop back down.

If Vitamin D were to be even more effective at combatting it, they'd just increase production and have a GUARANTEED income stream in the billions for decades.

So, what makes more sense: making a quick $20 billion once, or making $10 billion each year for 40+ years??​

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

You posted the article stating they were close to a coronavirus vaccine yet the article clearly says not only were they not close but the research they had wasn’t even safe on animals let alone humans. You actually proved my point of why people should be cautious. Vaccines can be recalled simply due to an error in the manufacturing process. The Johnson and Johnson COVID-19 vaccine was recalled due to this issue. Vaccines contain metals such as aluminum and mercury which if not manufactured properly can seriously harm or even kill you. When you’re rushing the process obviously mistakes will happen.

The COVID vaccine being expedited is a fact that’s not up for debate. Here’s an NIH article Expedited COVID-19 vaccine trials: a rat-race with challenges and ethical issues

Compressed Timelines: the standard vaccine development cycle, including research & development (phase I to IV of clinical trials), manufacturing, approvals, licensing, distribution and deployment take several years. But the COVID-19 pandemic storm has compressed the timelines of coronavirus vaccine development to a few months. There are several obstacles to meet these shortened deadlines: geopolitical issues, international politics and competitions, social distancing and guidelines mandating closedown of laboratories across globe, optimum manufacturing of billions of doses and licensing, and quick global distribution of vaccines. The major threat to the compressed timeline is curtailment and compromise in different steps of research and development.

Nice, you did your googles and you were at least able to state that recall issues are usually due to quality control issues with manufacturing.

My point still stands that the vaccines that were rolled out are a continuation of the research that has been going on since we first encountered mers and sars going back to 2003.

 

[that guy]

Vitamin d & tonic teas

Meanwhile Brazil getting bum rushed by a mutated variant , y’all so fukkin stupid.if these were effective treatments then why are hospitals being bombarded by sick people

Black people in America don’t get enough sunlight making us vitamin D deficient. You need vitamin D for a strong immune system. That can be the difference between you having a mild case of COVID or dying from it. You’re undermining someone’s herbal medicines but you don’t even know what the active ingredients are in the pharmaceuticals a doctor would prescribe you. Y’all are making fun of people but most of y’all didn’t even wear a mask and wash your hands until the news told you to.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

People don't like buying a pair of jeans without a return policy, yet they're lining up to inject a vaccine in them that they can't sue for if something goes terribly wrong.

False, they can be compensated for injuries as a result of the vaccine......​

About the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

And for the people who can't find where it specifically states the COVID-19 vaccine is covered....

Frequently Asked Questions
​

COVID-19 vaccines are covered countermeasures under the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), not the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act) authorizes the CICP to provide benefits to certain individuals or estates of individuals who sustain a covered serious physical injury as the direct result of the administration or use of covered countermeasures identified in and administered or used under a PREP Act declaration. The CICP also may provide benefits to certain survivors of individuals who die as a direct result of the administration or use of such covered countermeasures. The PREP Act declaration for medical countermeasures against COVID-19 states that the covered countermeasures are:

1. any antiviral, any drug, any biologic, any diagnostic, any other device, any respiratory protective device, or any vaccine manufactured, used, designed, developed, modified, licensed, or procured:
   • to diagnose, mitigate, prevent, treat, or cure COVID-19, or the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 or a virus mutating therefrom; or
   • to limit the harm that COVID-19, or the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 or a virus mutating therefrom, might otherwise cause;
2. a product manufactured, used, designed, developed, modified, licensed, or procured to diagnose, mitigate, prevent, treat, or cure a serious or life-threatening disease or condition caused by a product described in paragraph (a) above;
3. a product or technology intended to enhance the use or effect of a product described in paragraph (a) or (b) above; or
4. any device used in the administration of any such product, and all components and constituent materials of any such product.

Covered Countermeasures must be ''qualified pandemic or epidemic products,'' or ''security countermeasures,'' or drugs, biological products, or devices authorized for investigational or emergency use, as those terms are defined in the PREP Act, the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, and the Public Health Service Act, or a respiratory protective device approved by National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) under 42 CFR part 84, or any successor regulations, that the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services determines to be a priority for use during a public health emergency declared under section 319 of the Public Health Service Act.

The CICP is administered by the Health Resources and Services Administration, within the Department of Health and Human Services. Information about the CICP and filing a claim are available at the toll-free number 1-855-266-2427 or the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) website.

Please stop parroting false information. .​

 

[that guy]

Nice, you did your googles and you were at least able to state that recall issues are usually due to quality control issues with manufacturing.

My point still stands that the vaccines that were rolled out are a continuation of the research that has been going on since we first encountered mers and sars going back to 2003.

Vaccines can be recalled for causing health issues not found in clinical trials in addition to errors in the manufacturing process.
The research in the article you posted was into using mRNA vaccines. Doing research into mRNA vaccines and developing an actual vaccine for COVID-19 are two completely different processes. And mRNA vaccines are just ONE type of vaccine on the market for COVID right now. There’s at least 4 types of COVID vaccines on the market. People can be cautious to see which is the most effective or which has the least amount of side effects.

 

[MoneyTron]

Bro are you a medical professional that’s studying peer reviewed journals or are you getting your COVID information from the internet just like the people you’re belittling? Vitamin D deficiency is linked to increased infection rates in Many illnesses. You can’t take vitamin D to prevent COVID but making sure you’re not vitamin D deficient in the first place may boost your autoimmune response to COVID which may end up saving your life. Studies have shown that black people in places like America are deficient in vitamin D due to lack of sun exposure. Also, a lot of studies I have read regarding vitamin D and COVID are testing people who were already infected with COVID which is not the right approach to using vitamin to increase the immune response to COVID.

I never said Vitamin D is bad. I said that its not on the level of a vaccine like some are suggesting.