If you claim top black athletes should go to HBCUs you better be in here:Texas Southern@FAMU Thread

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But everyone doesn't have to be onboard. Just a healthy number of our elite kids.

"Decades ago, football at HBCUs was just as big as football in the Southeastern Conference, if not bigger.

"Back in the 1960s and 1970s, when Grambling was the black Notre Dame and had more players in the NFL than any other school, they were on TV all the time," Aiello said.

Ironically, it was segregation that turned HBCU football into a major powerhouse. Bigger schools like Alabama and LSU had more resources to attract top recruits, just like they do today. However, they opted to pass on many of the country's best high school players because of their skin color.

In the 2017 college football recruiting class, 17 of the top 20 players are African-American. A half-century ago, almost all of them would have ended up at HBCUs.

"All those people that normally would have liked to have gone to Florida State, they would have loved to have gone to Florida. Because of segregation, they had to go to black colleges," Polite said. "That talent level produced some very exciting football."

Even after integration, HBCUs continued to attract talent. Doug Williams, the Pro Football Hall-of-Famer who played with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Washington, went to Grambling State. Walter Payton, arguably the greatest running back ever, went to Jackson State. Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Steve McNair went to Alcorn State. Michael Strahan went to Texas Southern.

Once upon a time, that talent made HBCU fandom—largely among African-American fans, but also among whites who knew good football when they saw it—the equivalent of SEC fandom today, with many supporters rooting for and invested in the success of schools they didn't actually attend."

Should Grambling State, Southern, and Other HBCUs Drop Out of Division I Football?

It's not as simple as " well it worked in the Jim Crow era, that means it could work now"

These schools can't even support football programs, so how exactly would they be able to keep top tier kids from going to PWI's? HBCU's would literally need to be on some Miami/BYU shyt to retain talent/keep other conferences from having it.

You don't fix an infrastructure problem simply by getting more athletes to be subject to it.
 

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It's not as simple as " well it worked in the Jim Crow era, that means it could work now"

These schools can't even support football programs, so how exactly would they be able to keep top tier kids from going to PWI's? HBCU's would literally need to be on some Miami/BYU shyt to retain talent/keep other conferences from having it.

You don't fix an infrastructure problem simply by getting more athletes to be subject to it.

Infrastructure problems are addressed by additional investment.

Aggressive fan and community support provides the revenue basis for increased investment.

Which is why Bragg Stadium should be filled for what is ESPNs first college football broadcast of 2017. You send
a message to potential HBCU advertisers and investors if that support is evident live and for ratings.
 

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That's an outlier..

There a serious infrastructure problem with HBCU athletics, and you can't fix it with more athletes.


Not really, if NFL teams were willing to find hbcu players in the 60s/70s then current day isn't a issue; if you have the measurables (athleticism/skills) the NFL is going to find you.
 
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Not really, if NFL teams were willing to find hbcu players in the 60s/70s then current day isn't a issue; if you have the measurables (athleticism/skills) the NFL is going to find you.

The game is nowhere near the same. These guys are freakish athletes and trained by some of the best coaches/nutritionist/facilities money can buy. Sure there are a few outliers but for the most part its a reason those kids are at an HBCU instead of a major D1 program, they weren't good enough to be offered a big time scholarship in the first place.
 

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Not really, if NFL teams were willing to find hbcu players in the 60s/70s then current day isn't a issue; if you have the measurables (athleticism/skills) the NFL is going to find you.

Y'all keep parroting this..

40-50 years ago, HBCU's were where nearly all of the black talent was.... it wasn't too hard to find.


HBCU players are making the league are lower amounts every single year..... each one that makes it is a outlier.

The fact that y'all still talking about how things were in back in the day should let y'all know something.

The majority of HBCU's would probably fair better by downgrading to D2 ball... they'd probably wouldn't have to send their players to get embarrassed on saturday nights just for a check to keep the program afloat.
 

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first time I recall seeing a white QB on an HBCU, I was in 6th or 7th grade.

like 20 years ago.
 

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The game is nowhere near the same. These guys are freakish athletes and trained by some of the best coaches/nutritionist/facilities money can buy. Sure there are a few outliers but for the most part its a reason those kids are at an HBCU instead of a major D1 program, they weren't good enough to be offered a big time scholarship in the first place.

I never said that currently HBCU's currently have the most "freakish" athletes and coaching and facilities don't mean shyt if you don't have top talent; that's why they spend all that money on bells and stuff to begin with. Anyway, there are plenty non power five conference players in the NFL so that still nullifies your argument.
 
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