If we live in an era where Drake's biggest hits are ghostwritten, why can't an AI rapper be the next big thing? (Really)

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This happened when lames picked Kanye over 50. People didn’t realize how big of a moment that was, it separated a rapper from their music, it didn’t matter if you were corny or fake. That moment gave birth to the fraud known as Drake

That was about album sales. People went for the music they liked better. I didn't see that as a battle between mcs. 50's to blame for that.
 

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It will happen and people will like it.
People who care about if a human came up with it will be a minority just dismissed as :flabbynsick: like people now who still care that Drake has been propped up by ghostwriters.
 

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I hope OP used AI to write this goofy ass thread before 8am on a Wednesday morning. Otherwise reevaluate your life :huhldup:
 

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How old are you?

Are you old enough to comprehend and have developed reading skills?

TF does it seem like Im talking about US my G. I'm talking about society.

30 year old us in 2000 wouldve been on the message boards saying "I prefer when my rappers write they own shyt and no one will ever accept a ghostwriter or a gay rapper" lol

Asking you to critically think
I’m 42 and spent my 20’s rapping and promoting talent. I’ve never respected ghostwriters and prefer my music with a human element.

Society will accept whatever is foster on them. That’s a low bar to cross.

Drake has never resonated with me due to the lack of soul in his music. I’m glad the masses are finally waking up to the corporate energy that drives his popularity.

This is me thinking critically about 15 years ago. Glad you are evolving.
 

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"Can" and "should" are not the same and the chasm between the two continues to grow wider and wider with every passing day and technological 'advance'
 

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With the powerful rise of AI images and motions and audio and training on music and beats and rhymes and the talent of every artist that ever existed ever, why wouldn't the next big hip hop artist of the 2020s/2030s be completely AI, from look to sound to status to everything

Nothing is gonna stop 1-2 or the occasional AI super star.

But it won't dominate. Humans are endlessly creative, and AI, by definition, are endlessly recursive.

Remember this song? Maybe you don't.



But it's a sample of this song



Wait, who's that in the Thumbnail?
Who's that singing?

I didn't know MJ was in a different group.

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But it's not Michael Jackson

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The Sylvers had their run, but it's not comparable to MJ.

Copying successful patterns and serving them back to the market is what industry does.

But it doesn't always work.

Some people love those patterns and continue to do so (see Griselda), but the mass moves on (see the rest of hip hop)

It's not because the audience is particularly intelligent - it's that they get bored by the same stuff.

Right now the Rap Lyrics over Motown/Old Soul/Jheri Curl Funk AI thing is fun.... because we have nostalgia for those same patterns, and those rhymes in a new context.

But the patterns will get old.
  • People "figure out the trick" and move on.
  • They'll be aware of the pattern, and it will cease to have an effect (happens in advertising, a lot)
  • The music will be over saturated (Not Like Us, Million Dollar Baby, etc)
AI, by definition, isn't thinking of new stuff - it's combining stuff we've already seen in new ways that we haven't seen - and it went through billions, if not trillions of calculations to serve up whatever we're being shown.

It will be entertaining for a bit, but then it dies off.
  • Remember Pixar's 3d cartoons? (common place)
  • Remember Avatar and 3d movies? (an option for some blockbusters, but fading back into obscurity, just like the version they had in the 50's)
  • Remember the MCU?
Maybe 99% of what people do is just take something old and remix it - but it's that 0.001% - the "new new" that's what keeps things interesting.

When that "new new" is a hit, that's where all of the attention (and money and power and fame) go.

So AI might "dominate" music for maybe a hot second - but it's just pattern matching - and giving us slight variations on stuff we already like, because it can only draw from things that are already in existence. It can make all sorts of apples, but never a mango because the mango isn't in the DB.

Humans are so fickle that being served the same thing over and over again, doesn't work for most people.
 

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It’s going to happen just look at how the whole bbl drizzy thing got big. A.I will get better where it will be harder to distinguish if shyt is A.I or not hell even with this whole Kendrick and Drake beef we were confused if some of the disses are real or not. If the flow and beat is right on an A.I
artist I can’t see why it couldn’t be popular.
 
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