If republicans really had doubts about Obamacare, they would see it through

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We all know first and foremost they wanna see Obama fail. like literally... thats the motivation behind their every move


If the consensus was that Obama care would be a failure, you really think they would pass up on the chance to see Obama's legacy go up in flames? :beli:
 

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It's the same thing with their racism...They feel they can say all kinds of racial innuendos, use any racial epithet, act on their racist urges, etc...As long as they don't explicitly say they are a racist, in their mind, they're not racist. The difference is, a whole slew of them will just outright say they want Pres. Obama to fail, and they will do anything to make that happen, but somehow their followers believe they're being patriotic. :mindblown:
 
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Because they would lose support in the republican states where most people that don't have insurance, that's why. That's the real reason.

Cruz, a sen from Texas where they have the highest amount of uninsured people. Imagine if they got a hold on Obamacare and it was successful? It would turn a red state into a purple state.
 

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Obamacare is going to be like Social Security. It's going to be good now and for years to come.
But America is huge. We have thousands of people who are poor. We aren't Norway or Switzerland. It's going to become a crippling financial burden. By that time, Obama will probably have passed away. :whew:
It's going to be like a Lexington Steele video . The American economy is only going to get the tip in the beginning. But it will get piped down later on.
 

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Would you let a person driivng erradicatly in a car youre in crash just to tell them "I told you so"?
 

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Here's the thing with this healthcare law I strongly disagree with, and hope to see it fail because of..........the provision that penalizes people for not having health insurance.

Its bullshyt..........and its illegal (at least according to this countries laws)

You want to come up with some high and mighty plan to have everyone in the country covered by health insurance, cool...................have the government completly foot the bill.

Dont impose bullshyt laws that penalize the people and reward the medical industry.
 

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We have thousands of people who are poor.
We have about 45 million Americans living in poverty. Can you imagine picking up the tab for 45 million people? It's going to be a monumental failure.




Here's the thing with this healthcare law I strongly disagree with, and hope to see it fail because of..........the provision that penalizes people for not having health insurance.

Its bullshyt..........and its illegal (at least according to this countries laws)
It's actually legal because the government has the right to tax you. So it's not so much a penalty, it's more of a tax. You get taxed for not having insurance, basically. Those that get insurance will get a "tax break" in the form of a deduction or subsidy or something.

I'm hoping they pass a new provision that eliminates the penalty, it's not really fair to people who choose not to get health insurance. What ever happened to having the freedom to not buy insurance if you don't want to?




:pachaha:Republicans is scared to death it's a success.
It's going to be a success for the big HMOs like WellPoint who had a hand in writing the healthcare bill.

It's going to be terrible for people who get stuck with the "bronze" plan. Obama and all senators/congress who voted for this are exempt from this law. They're not going to get some mediocre "bronze" or "silver" plan because even they know the coverage under those plans is going to be shyt tier. Healthcare under those plans is going to be rationed.

So yeah, it' going to be a success for big pharma and the big HMOs, at the expense of the American people.
 

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Obamacare is going to be like Social Security. It's going to be good now and for years to come.
But America is huge. We have thousands of people who are poor. We aren't Norway or Switzerland. It's going to become a crippling financial burden. By that time, Obama will probably have passed away. :whew:
It's going to be like a Lexington Steele video . The American economy is only going to get the tip in the beginning. But it will get piped down later on.
:dwillhuh:

Wait did u just... noo no no u didn't.
 

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We have about 45 million Americans living in poverty. Can you imagine picking up the tab for 45 million people? It's going to be a monumental failure.





It's actually legal because the government has the right to tax you. So it's not so much a penalty, it's more of a tax. You get taxed for not having insurance, basically. Those that get insurance will get a "tax break" in the form of a deduction or subsidy or something.

I'm hoping they pass a new provision that eliminates the penalty, it's not really fair to people who choose not to get health insurance. What ever happened to having the freedom to not buy insurance if you don't want to?



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IA if they choose not to get any medical assistance and it says it on their ID they opted out (I know there are ways to get around it). If they die, they die :birdman:
 

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It's actually legal because the government has the right to tax you. So it's not so much a penalty, it's more of a tax. You get taxed for not having insurance, basically. Those that get insurance will get a "tax break" in the form of a deduction or subsidy or something.

I'm hoping they pass a new provision that eliminates the penalty, it's not really fair to people who choose not to get health insurance. What ever happened to having the freedom to not buy insurance if you don't want to?

Well, from an intellectual standpoint I can understand the penalty.

If people who can afford insurance decide to opt-out (because they're cheap or whatever), and they end up having some kind of medical emergency, you can be pretty sure they'll still go to the ER and get treated. Since the ER bill is likely to be astronomical, more than likely most of these people won't be able to pay it anytime soon. The hospital has to absorb this cost and pass it on to everybody else in the form of higher costs for their services, and thus higher insurance premiums. That's what happens now.

So from that standpoint, it makes sense. A penalty for risky behavior that society might have to pay for.

But that said, single-payer would clearly be better. Unfortunately it's not politically feasible right now.


It's going to be a success for the big HMOs like WellPoint who had a hand in writing the healthcare bill.

It's going to be terrible for people who get stuck with the "bronze" plan. Obama and all senators/congress who voted for this are exempt from this law. They're not going to get some mediocre "bronze" or "silver" plan because even they know the coverage under those plans is going to be shyt tier. Healthcare under those plans is going to be rationed.

So yeah, it' going to be a success for big pharma and the big HMOs, at the expense of the American people.

I'm pretty sure most of the millions of uninsured people in the country will find the bronze plan less "terrible" than having no insurance whatsoever. :sitdown:
 

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We all know first and foremost they wanna see Obama fail. like literally... thats the motivation behind their every move


If the consensus was that Obama care would be a failure, you really think they would pass up on the chance to see Obama's legacy go up in flames? :beli:
Republicans don't want the Affordable Care Act to be enacted because once its been in effect a decent amount of time it will be like Medicare and Social Security in that they won't be able to get rid of it without a major fight or without looking like villains.

they've successfully managed to demonize the act by politicizing it and calling it Obamacare and they have masses of ignorant citizens parroting their message of it being bad but that's just a smoke screen.
 
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