If only blacks we're as racist as whites,asians,latinos

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There are articles that i read on the expulsion of indians...some admitting their complicity in how they behaved. I'll have to find them.

But if you observe indians on an international scale they seclude themselves heavily.

Theres site called indusladies.com where indian women connect with other indians to move to many countries throughout africa for business and create indian silos/enclaves. They do that whereever they go.

Theres a city called Brampton that has a big indian population...and thats what they do.

Come on tommy you are well travelled you should know this.
this may be a surprise to you but this is what EVERYBODY does. I currently live in an area where everyone is korean (koreantown), but this is china, they separate themselves and even have their own hospital.

we have a little ethiopia in LA wtf are you on about? if you think indians didnt have a face in africa youre a moron. indians are deeply embedded in south african community.
 

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Of course african leaders are a bug problem...but foreign nationals who are unregulated by gouvernement who take advantage of political instability to enricj themselves off the backs of locals stem from lack of proper governance and is just as deadly.
if that were the case uganda would be prospering right now, now that they have no indians. ahem.
 

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If we had a "fukk everybody else" we'd be ahead right now. If that translates into racism then so be it. I don't give a fukk about changing the world for everybody. That's reserved solely for my own. If you don't like that then fukk you too.
 

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I Agree 100% with this Post because Black America didn't need to Integrate with The White Devils to receive Equal Protection of Resources because We only needed our own Resources Such As: Our Own Courtrooms For Justice, Our Own Economic System For Employment, Etc which is similar to what The White Devils have Today.

The Problem Wasn't With Separation It Was With Separation But Unequal!
 
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Look, it's another "I wanna be more like White people - let's mimic their worst attributes!" post.


Being more racist will only get the Black community behind. Think about it for a second.


If you run a business, and you have the choice between hiring the best employees (including black employees), or you're racist and so you hire some unqualified employees just because they're black. In what scenario are you more likely to succeed as a black businessman?

If you run a university, and you have the choice between accepting the best students (including black students), or you're racist and so you accept some unqualified students just because they're black. In what scenario are you more likely to succeed as a Black university president?

On the other side, let's say you're a black employee and someone gives you a job that you shouldn't have been hired for, but you got offered it just because they're racist and you're black. Is that likely to make you a good employee and help you advance in life?

Let's say you're a black student and someone accepts you into a university you're unqualified to get into. Is that going to help your academic future?


Racist shyt hurts the people excluded by the racism AND the people who are practicing it. Look at the fukking South - why do you think the White people there are so far behind the White people elsewhere in every meaningful way? You concern yourself with being racist all the time, and people who aren't concerned with it are going to pass you by.


This is actually a pretty good point.
 

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How yall fell about affirmative action and hcbus? :jbhmm:

Good question. I was thinking about that as I wrote the post, but decided to wait to explain myself until someone asked a follow-up.

HCBU's are cool. My cousin just graduated from med school at Morehouse. Most colleges and universities dominated by White people, White assumptions, etc. - i'ts good for Black people to be running some of that shyt.

But they should let everyone in who is qualified and wants to get in. And they do. There's White students at Morehouse, Arab students at Morehouse, etc.. That's a good thing.

Think about it - which would be better:

An HCBU that's only relevant to Black people, or an HCBU that's academically so strong that White, Asian, Latino, etc. are trying to get in too?

An HCBU where students are only exposed to other Black students, or an HCBU where there is at least some exposure students of other races in the mix so every gets their perspective on shyt in that mix too?

For the good of the students, I think that its better to have the student body open to everyone and not be racist about it. Students shouldn't be under any pressure to go to an HCBU - they're good environments for some, not for others. But they're a good option.


Affirmative Action is more complex. I always used to be a big fan. The rationale behind it is a good fukking rationale.

The stigma around it bothered me though...just because AA exists, everyone always assumes that everything you did to get anywhere you just got "because of Affirmative Action", not because you actually deserved that shyt. Still, I thought that meant the fukking stigma should change, not that Affirmative Action should change.

But Malcolm Gladwell (Jamaican/Canadian economist) did some research on this shyt that made me start thinking about it in a different way. He showed that students tend to benefit more from being at the top of a mid-level school than being at the bottom of a high-level school.

Let's say you get some guy gets into both Harvard Medical School and University of Michigan Medical School. At Harvard he'll make it and graduate, but he'll be somewhere in the bottom 25% of the class. At Michigan he'll excel against less-quality competition and graduate in the top 25% of the class. Gladwell showed that students who chose to go to slightly less-competitive schools where they finish at the top of their class have BETTER futures than similarly-skilled students who go to the most competitive schools and finish in the bottom half of their class.

It doesn't mean that everyone should go to easy schools. But if you have a choice between a good school where you can fit in well and quite possibly excel, versus a super-competitive school where most people are better-prepared than you and you'll have to work your ass off just to graduate...it;'s probably actually better for your future to choose the decent school where you fit more comfortably and can excel.

Unfortunately, Affirmative Action encourages students to make the choice that leads to less success.

So while I think Affirmative Action is fair, it's not really addressing the places where the real problems of the racist system start (that's in our elementary schools and communities and families, long before someone gets to university or the workplace), and it can actually be counterproductive.
 
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I got that idea from Gladwell's "David and Goliath" book, but a quick google search turned up this article too. The data is striking. (By "mismatch", they are referring to when students are accepted to schools where most of their classmates have better qualification/preparation than they do.)

A powerful example of these problems comes from UCLA, an elite school that used large racial preferences until the Proposition 209 ban took effect in 1998. The anticipated, devastating effects of the ban on preferences at UCLA and Berkeley on minorities were among the chief exhibits of those who attacked Prop 209 as a racist measure. Many predicted that over time blacks and Hispanics would virtually disappear from the UCLA campus.

And there was indeed a post-209 drop in minority enrollment as preferences were phased out. Although it was smaller and more short-lived than anticipated, it was still quite substantial: a 50 percent drop in black freshman enrollment and a 25 percent drop for Hispanics. These drops precipitated ongoing protests by students and continual hand-wringing by administrators, and when, in 2006, there was a particularly low yield of black freshmen, the campus was roiled with agitation, so much so that the university reinstituted covert, illegal racial preferences.

Throughout these crises, university administrators constantly fed agitation against the preference ban by emphasizing the drop in undergraduate minority admissions. Never did the university point out one overwhelming fact: The total number of black and Hispanic students receiving bachelor's degrees were the same for the five classes after Prop 209 as for the five classes before.

How was this possible? First, the ban on preferences produced better-matched students at UCLA, students who were more likely to graduate. The black four-year graduation rate at UCLA doubled from the early 1990s to the years after Prop 209.

Second, strong black and Hispanic students accepted UCLA offers of admission at much higher rates after the preferences ban went into effect; their choices seem to suggest that they were eager to attend a school where the stigma of a preference could not be attached to them. This mitigated the drop in enrollment.

Third, many minority students who would have been admitted to UCLA with weak qualifications before Prop 209 were admitted to less elite schools instead; those who proved their academic mettle were able to transfer up to UCLA and graduate there.

Thus, Prop 209 changed the minority experience at UCLA from one of frequent failure to much more consistent success. The school granted as many bachelor degrees to minority students as it did before Prop 209 while admitting many fewer and thus dramatically reducing failure and drop-out rates. It was able, in other words, to greatly reduce mismatch.


I don't like arguing against affirmative action because of the company that would put me in. But I'm starting to believe that it might do more harm than good. Go to the school that's the best fit for you, not the school that has a great name but where you'll struggle to get by.
 

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no shortage of bigotted black ppl

look at this forum

and it's usually the people who aint doin shyt in life so nah

Black people don't act as a bigoted community and work to help other blacks. Many blacks are selfish and self-serving. They only care about themselves. I see Asians hiring Asians; cacs hiring cacs; Arabs hiring Arabs, etc. Why can't blacks hire blacks?
 

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We're not powerful enough to be racist, at best we could be bigoted or prejudiced, but we do not have the structure in place to impose limitations on others based of the skin color, race or even orienntation. This is why most of the racism we do possess we turn inwards. We always talk about the ills of white people but fact of the matter is no one hates us more than us.
 
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