If John Cena is so wack and played, why does he consistently get the biggest pops?
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Once they fully pulled the trigger on bryan he was injured not long after so I would say that you can't really conclude how well he would have done one way or another just yet
Kill Dat Noize
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sure you can.
daniel bryan was the hot topic of the WWE for several months, all the way from summerslam to wrestlemania. he was at worst the #2 most promoted babyface on the roster. always in key programs, always on television.
i am willing to bet that if you compared the ratings, buyrates, and attendance figures during that stretch of time to year's past, you would see little to no movement. and no i don't think you can conclude anything purely on the numbers, but at the same time there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the company was on the rise prior to bryan's injury.
when wrestlemania aired on NBC, they didn't even bother televising any of his matches.
He spent much of that time getting beat down every week its a testament to him that he even stayed as over as he did. You can't really measure the draw of the number 2 promoted face easily, but in general one man isn't going to change things drastically within a year anyway, its refreshing and throws a bone to the fans that want something new but I think the overall product has to be strong. I think you have to take a chance with whoever gets grassroots support though because Cena is a top name, but Cena can't carry shyt by himself even Rock and Austin had each other and a slew of other cats that could step up any given time to assist them
Kill Dat Noize
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but when austin started to bubble you could feel that surge in the air. everyone knew it. something big was about to happen. the numbers went up across the board in late 97 and heading into 98. almost 3 times as many people saw wrestlemania 14 than the year before. why? because they wanted to see stone cold win the title.
the audience was not growing because of daniel bryan. it wasn't growing at all.
According to folks here Bryan could've/can/will do it all on his own once he returns and did it while he was there, the consensus here is that the Raws were overall better simply because he was there. Never mind the crap surrounding the show but because he was there somehow the show was better.
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Golayitdown
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John the Baptist continues to defy logic 
Golayitdown
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I think some confuse liking the direction the product is heading (getting Cena out of the way/putting Bryan on top/focusing the show on Bryan) with the product actually gaining viewers like the rise of Austin/start of the Attitude Era. I think Bryan was/is the way to go for the product (though I didn't see the appeal of him as a babyface past the underdog/YES chants) and he's an amazing wrestler, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe they are going to sustain a new audience over the long haul. IMO, it seems like the people who watch are going to watch (regardless of how the product is) and the only casuals they will get is when special attractions (Rock) pop back up once in a while.
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LastManStanding
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WWE has been doing it for years. even with live TV and PPV they are on a 10-15 delay and can easily edit in whatever sounds they want, edit out foul language slip ups, wardrobe malfunctions, etc.
WWE has been doing it for years. even with live TV and PPV they are on a 10-15 delay and can easily edit in whatever sounds they want, edit out foul language slip ups, wardrobe malfunctions, etc.
Its just the simple fact that Wrestling isn't considered "cool" at the moment. Doesn't help matter that the WWE doesn't have a damn clue on how to build or treat stars either. Everybody that they have potential to build as a longtime antagonist to Cena loses within the first matchup and its on to the next feud. When he has a great antagonist like Edge or Punk, He's at the top of his game.
The PG shyt is harnessing creativity. Think of how wild the Ambrose/Wyatt feud would have been in the Attitude/Ruthless era. Instead of this ring around the rosey shyt they doing.
The PG shyt is harnessing creativity. Think of how wild the Ambrose/Wyatt feud would have been in the Attitude/Ruthless era. Instead of this ring around the rosey shyt they doing.
Sincere Noble
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You also got to put into perspective the era we in. Yeah, Cena is getting big pops in this era but you compare that to the Attitude Era and its ehhhh. I mean, Too Cool was out popping this nikka.
How much hard evidence? Cena was pushed back for Bryan in the main event scene outright, he was the #2 merchandise seller, he sold out arenas, houseshow business went up, Rock and Austin put him over on television, they had him doing segments with Hogan right after the damn title win, Stephanie and Cripple H's entire storyline revolved around Bryan...he was the new guy on top and was definitely getting it done. And Raw hasn't been the same quality wise nor reaction wise from the fans since..it would be like a lesser form of removing 2000 Rock or 1998 Austin from the show. That's why things are so dull. Why everyone is complaining and chanting NXT and trying to give lesser minds credit for other talents looking good now. All that kind of shyt. That all comes from the Daniel Bryan success in 2014. The WWE has SUCKED ever since he got taken off television. Heyman, Cena, Lesnar, Seth, Ziggler, Cesaro, Reigns...none of them has been able to fill the void since and now the ratings are starting to show that shyt more than ever.
NXT has fun talents like Kalisto, Neville, and Zayn but they aren't the equals of Bryan yet. They don't have that connection with the crowd that was definitely becoming concrete maybe for good during his run this year. People can bring up Punk or chant his name all they want now but at the Royal Rumble, when it was MONEY TIME and he had the spotlight to end the Royal Rumble, all we heard during his elimination was "DANIEL BRYAN".
southpawstyle
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Why do so many people talk shyt on McDonalds but fill up on Mcnuggets? Authority backed and constantly pushed 