If it wasnt for Franklin Roosevelt

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you haven't presented any evidence...

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know I had to spoon-feed you the definition of polio.

My mistake for assuming that you'd know that polio = a disease of the central nervous system and that the brain is part of the central nervous system before...y'know...trying to argue about it. :mjpls:

Polio brain

Fatigue is the most commonly reported, most debilitating and least studied Post-Polio Sequelae (PPS) affecting millions of polio survivors throughout the world. In two national surveys of American polio survivors, 91% reported new or increased fatigue, 41% reported fatigue significantly interfering with performing or completing work and 25% reported fatigue interfering with self-care activities.(1) Fatigue was reported to be triggered or exacerbated by physical overexertion in 92% and by emotional stress in 61%.

Importantly, polio survivors differentiate between the physical tiredness and decreased endurance they associate with new muscles weakness, and a "brain fatigue" that is characterized by problems with attention and cognition. Between 70% and 96% of American polio survivors reported that fatigue was accompanied by problems with concentration, memory, attention, word-finding, maintaining wakefulness and thinking clearly, with 77% percent reporting at least moderate to severe difficulty with these problems. (2)
 

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Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know I had to spoon-feed you the definition of polio.

My mistake for assuming that you'd know that polio = a disease of the central nervous system and that the brain is part of the central nervous system before...y'know...trying to argue about it. :mjpls:

Polio brain

Show me that Roosevelts mental abilities were directly negatively effected by Polio. Not that they may have been compromised due to him having Polio.
 

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Show me that Roosevelts mental abilities were directly negatively effected by Polio. Not that they may have been compromised due to him having Polio.

Show me that Reagan's mental abilities during his presidency were directly negatively affected by Alzheimer's during his term, or that he would have contracted Alzheimer's at all had he stayed president. For fukk's sake, that's a completely impossible standard of proof, especially considering how tight lipped everyone was about FDR's condition. Reagan got bucked from a horse 5 years prior to his diagnosis and smacked his head. Maybe if he had stayed president he'd have never taken that horse ride and had one more good term in him? Nobody knows.

There's been quite a bit of work done to show that Roosevelt may have been mentally impaired at the Yalta conference, which is why he allowed Stalin to take Manchuria and Poland. And considering that between 70-96% of Polio survivors experience cognitive decline throughout their life, I'd say that's a pretty good possibility. If you don't need to prove that Reagan would have gotten Alzheimer's had he stayed president, then I don't have to prove this. Cognitive inactivity has been scientifically linked to Alzheimer's. He wouldn't have been as cognitively inactive if he'd stayed in office, now would he?

You're bad at sophistry.
 

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Show me that Reagan's mental abilities during his presidency were directly negatively affected by Alzheimer's during his term, or that he would have contracted Alzheimer's at all had he stayed president. For fukk's sake, that's a completely impossible standard of proof, especially considering how tight lipped everyone was about FDR's condition. Reagan got bucked from a horse 5 years prior to his diagnosis and smacked his head. Maybe if he had stayed president he'd have never taken that horse ride and had one more good term in him? Nobody knows.

There's been quite a bit of work done to show that Roosevelt may have been mentally impaired at the Yalta conference, which is why he allowed Stalin to take Manchuria and Poland. And considering that between 70-96% of Polio survivors experience cognitive decline throughout their life, I'd say that's a pretty good possibility. If you don't need to prove that Reagan would have gotten Alzheimer's had he stayed president, then I don't have to prove this. Cognitive inactivity has been scientifically linked to Alzheimer's. He wouldn't have been as cognitively inactive if he'd stayed in office, now would he?

You're bad at sophistry.


The burden of proof was on you. Don't get all bytchy with me because you couldn't back your statements up with evidence.
 

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The two term limit is a pretty stupid idea....

If a president is healthy and motivated enough and the public is not tired of him...then why the hell shouldn't he get a third term. :yeshrug:

Bill Clinton almost certainly would've won a third term and the fukking debt would've been nearly paid off by now.
 

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The burden of proof was on you. Don't get all bytchy with me because you couldn't back your statements up with evidence.

:pachaha:

So you impose a bonehead standard of proof on me regarding FDR , while taking the same shyt for granted regarding Reagan, and then call me a bytch?

I backed up my statements with statistics that proved, more likely than not, that FDR's cognitive capacity was significantly diminished by his condition while he was president.

Then your bytch-ass moved the goalposts and created a standard of proof that suited you better.

This isn't a criminal investigation. I don't have to prove shyt beyond a shadow of a doubt. I've already met my burden of proof. Our entire argument was that the idea of polio affecting FDR's brain was stupid. I proved to you that it was more likely than not true, and then suddenly the rules change? Moving. The. Goalposts.

Meanwhile, you haven't proven shyt about Reagan, even though your argument takes for granted that Reagan's memory and brain functioned would have been impaired at all.

Instead, you're trying and failing to be :youngsabo: with sophistry.
 

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Teddy Roosevelt should have been a 3 term President.

He was growing to be more liberal toward the later half of his presidency.

He is the reason why Republicans and Democrats basically switched roles.
They were once the party of Lincoln and then went toward Harding, Coolidge conservatism.


If I can change one Presidency it would be Woodrow Wilson, he basically made American the world Police during his terms and his willing to uncompromise with the league of nations idea, made the world punish Germany to the brink of collaspe thus allowing the rise of socialist movement headed by Adolf Hitler :pacspit:
 

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Teddy Roosevelt should have been a 3 term President.

He was growing to be more liberal toward the later half of his presidency.

He is the reason why Republicans and Democrats basically switched roles.
They were once the party of Lincoln and then went toward Harding, Coolidge conservatism.


If I can change one Presidency it would be Woodrow Wilson, he basically made American the world Police during his terms and his willing to uncompromise with the league of nations idea, made the world punish Germany to the brink of collaspe thus allowing the rise of socialist movement headed by Adolf Hitler :pacspit:

Dudes hate on Teddy and that national park system.

:troll:
 

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I prefer 1 6 year term imo, but the two term system is fine. Most presidents get fairly stagnant mid way into their second term.
 

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Dudes hate on Teddy and that national park system.

:troll:

Teddy is one of my favorite Presidents of all time, I think he is criminally underrated by most. People have a small grasp of history. I actually know a great deal of information on almost every man who occupied the office of President.

Teddy was the man, and he was progressive. He was respected and far before his time in many ways. I wish he would have had 12 years in office.
 
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