"If Chicago doesnt fix the carnage, I will send in the Feds" - President Trump

[Deoji]

doesn't he need the Gov of Illinois to declare a state of emergency before he can do that, tho?

 

[Serious]

The amount of agents in this thread alone

@88m3
I would debate them, but I gain nothing from it...


If they come the podcast I'll murder their talking points though.

 

[Keyser Migraine]

More "alternative facts". They only sent the Feds in on that boots on the ground this shyt one time, and it wasn't even for the murders and the dope you pasty looking Cac. It was for the race riots in Liberty City in 1980, which had everything to do with racism and police brutality and nothing to do with coke coming thru Miami.

HW Bush deployed federal agents in conjunction with CENTAC in 1982, you crazy a$$hole.

Trump didn't even say anything about "boots on the ground", you hyperventilating reactionary bozo.

He's referring to federal oversight over municipal law enforcement.

Sit the fukk down, you dizzy motherfukker.

 

[DynamoEAR]

Neo-conservatism has little to do with domestic law enforcement policies such as these.

How so?

Black folks can be agents as well, Many of black folks are authoritarians just like their white counterparts.

I've seen "pro-black" nikkas call for draconian solutions.

 

[JamilALAmin]

are you serious!? bruh we talking about feds coming into Chicago and putting a stop to these violent killings today. As a black man that lived in the hood, I could honestly tell you anytime them cacs came into the hood, thugs would scatter and there was no killings or dealings until they ass left. Maybe Chicago needs that type of fear. As far as I'm concerned, its blacks killing blacks over dumb shyt, that needs to stop.

Ha breh? Again, what the fukk is you saying breh. You really advocating for some martial law type shyt. Cuz when you say Feds that's what it means. You think regular alphabet boys ain't already in the hoods in Chicago? Breh they in every city small and large in America. ATF, US Marshals, and FBI been had hella agents imbedded on local police units. Plain clothes and under cover. Breh you ain't in the streets if you haven't seen a random hood with some US Marshals in olive green BDU's walking around with sticks breh. And the Feds paying nikkas out here to keep up the appearances of getting money and be on the scene just so they can get the names of who is who. nikkas don't even have a plug, they just selling seized work the Feds give them. Do you know how big the law enforcement complex is in this country breh?

And fukk outta here with that nonsense about shyt stopping when Cacs come around. You ain't the only one from the hood breh. Been out here in multiple cities since the early 2000s patna. Only time shyt stops like that is when they indict a block or put an injunction on a hood and that basically is some martial law type shyt because 12 just goes around locking dudes up for just being outside talking to each other basically. If that's what you want them cool, just don't get upset when keep moving them goal posts and your square ass gets caught up in that web too. It's cool when they using the poor brehs as guinea pigs but when they come for cats like you too then it's a problem

 

[Serious]

this isn't about trump being truly interested in the people of chicago. this is about him being a bully.

locking people up won't solve the problem and it's not even a starting point. reinvesting in the educational system, economic opportunities, and ending corruption in the police depts would have lasting results. that's not the republican way though. some of that has been started with obama sending the doj at chicago pd, but i don't expect blue lives matter republicans to keep that up...

it's easier to lock people up and leave everything else as is than truly commit to fixing the issues. don't be so easily fooled by twitter finger's rants. his ideas are not impressive. they're juvenile, condescending and not really productive to the black community.

Exactly the situation is way more complex than just locking people up. The issue is poverty with a lack of room for advancement. Saying stay in school, is easier said then done, when there's no food inside the house. When people have their backs against the wall of course they're going buck the system and hustle by any means to make it....

 

[Althalucian]

That's why the whole idea of Soulja boy /Chris Brown boxing is good IMO, teaching the young generation another way of basic conflict resolution

I don't like mass incarceration but we must not allow genocide to continue like this. Remember it's not just Chicago....look at the FBI list that's released yearly.....mostly Black victims

That's Genocide

Add the homicides + Amount of Abortions .......Black Genocide

Trump trying to take action

Democrat policies have FAILED in this area

Let's take up the position that we did decide to do this for the sake of argument. What happens if it failed? What happens if Trump walks into Chicago, targets the south side of Chicago, there is some violence both ways, but people are chill. Then the soldiers leave, and then the following year there is near or the same amount of violence.

If it fails, then it would have the unfortunate effect of making Trump looking like he is putting his boot on black people, and make him look like an authoritarian on the national and international scene.

Secondly, what's next? You'll say "both liberal and conservative ideology has failed!" What do you do for the south side then?

 

[JamilALAmin]

HW Bush deployed federal agents in conjunction with CENTAC in 1982, you crazy a$$hole.

Trump didn't even say anything about "boots on the ground", you hyperventilating reactionary bozo.

He's referring to federal oversight over municipal law enforcement.

Sit the fukk down, you dizzy motherfukker.

Y'all fools talking about regular alphabet boys, smh. Trump talking bout a whole different level of things. Do you seriously think Feds like that ain't already in Chicago? bytch my uncle in the Pen right now behind getting caught up in a year long case the Feds had going on against the Stones in Uptown. fukk outta here moving them goal posts bytch. You damn well what Trump means

 

[BaggerofTea]

How so?


I've seen "pro-black" nikkas call for draconian solutions.

Neoconservatism - Wikipedia

Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among conservative leaning Democrats who became disenchanted with the party's foreign policy. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administration of George W. Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[1] Prominent neoconservatives in the George W. Bush administration included Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer. Senior officials Vice President dikk Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, while not identifying as neoconservatives, listened closely to neoconservative advisers regarding foreign policy, especially the defense of Israel and the promotion of democracy in the Middle East.

The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist Left to the camp of American conservatism.[2] Neoconservatives typically advocate the promotion of democracy and promotion of American national interest in international affairs, including by means of military force and are known for espousing disdain for communism and for political radicalism.[3][4] The movement had its intellectual roots in the Jewish monthly review magazine Commentary, published by the American Jewish Committee.[5][6] They spoke out against the New Left and in that way helped define the movement.[7][8] C. Bradley Thompson, a professor at Clemson University, claims that most influential neoconservatives refer explicitly to the theoretical ideas in the philosophy of Leo Strauss (1899–1973),[9] though in doing so they may draw upon meaning that Strauss himself did not endorse.

I've seen "pro-black" nikkas call for draconian solutions.

Thats what I am saying, alot of nikkas out there push hardline authoritarian measures like these except in blackface

 

[BaggerofTea]

 

[50CentStan]

 

[superunknown23]

Your transformation into a cac supremacist sympathizer over the past year has been straight

Transformation?

 

[JamilALAmin]

As far as what's next, fund the programs that have shown to be successful(job training etc)

But they're closing schools, and Trump is about to gut funding to programs that dole out grant money. So my guess is they just going with the boots on the ground shyt and nothing else. How can you not see the writing on the wall? How can you stand behind this unless you truly consign it in some way?

 

[JamilALAmin]

you clearly don't know no better. Good day mate!

That's what's up. Take the easy way out. You came off as weak anyway so I'm not surprised.

 

[Serious]

That's what's up. Take the easy way out. You came off as weak anyway so I'm not surprised.

Exactly why I don't waste my time replying to idiots like that. I'm not going to write an essay just to debunk their talking points. I gain nothing from debating these clowns.