If Black people made the SE of America how will we defend it?

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Let's assume our economy is stable. We occupy Five states GA, FL, LA, AL, MS. Our infrastructure has been solidified and we have a state to state hyperloop.


Militarily. What tactics would we use? Would we be mainly a Navy based military? Who would train us, what ordnance would we use?
 

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Whatever gives us our own ethnostate obviously destroy's the usa and it's military.


And if the usa and it's military is gone.. the rest of the world will be thrown into turmoil for at least 20 yrs.


Truthfully we would just have to mop up the confeds..
 

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Whatever gives us our own ethnostate obviously destroy's the usa and it's military.


And if the usa and it's military is gone.. the rest of the world will be thrown into turmoil for at least 20 yrs.


Truthfully we would just have to mop up the confeds..
What do you mean what ever destroys it? Like an invasion
 

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Defection of blacks in the US military.
strong navy and airforce.
Military ties/pact to Cuba and Mexico and a big power like Russia or China.
 

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Then hoe do we get out from under them.

We can't.

Having the USA as a neighbor would mean we would always be under threat from invasion by a superior military and a much larger country.

Therefore we will do what Israel does and be a proxy for Iran/China and in return receive aid and weapons of mass destruction and threaten to blow the USA up.
 

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Nuclear destruction would be bad for us, due to the nature of radioactive materials.

Bad in the short term.....but life would go on. People would build anew.



If we've survived everything whites have thrown at us.. then we would survive that too. :yeshrug:



I ain't saying it wouldn't suck.. be messy. But a new nation is like a baby being born.... it doesn't come out clean and neat
 

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Let's assume our economy is stable. We occupy Five states GA, FL, LA, AL, MS. Our infrastructure has been solidified and we have a state to state hyperloop.


Militarily. What tactics would we use? Would we be mainly a Navy based military? Who would train us, what ordnance would we use?

:ufdup:


Of course we could, to suggest otherwise implies what WS has been saying from the start, that we are of subhuman intellect and incappable of governing without the a strong white hand to guide us.
However, as black wallstreet proved (i know that was segregation, not insulation), white people would never allow it unless they are defeated in war. Because for WS to exist, black people (and other minorities) must exist in a state of inferiority.

The question should be can White America ever be ok with a black insulated population.

Now this is a far better addition / angle to bring up. Though let me adjust / focus the question a bit :whoa:

Question:
What would be the likely response from white society to an "insulated" African American populous living within the context given in the OP?

Now this gives us a wider analytical framework to cook wit.:patrice:

Realistic Answer:
1. Cacs would physically move to areas of the state where they are the majority or out of the state entirely.
2. Cacs would vote themselves out of jurisdictions where they are not the majority and consolidate in their own jurisdictions.
3. Almost all retail, dining, banking, etc. would move to areas where cacs live.(Short of "low cost" stores & franchise stores owned by AA)
4. Cacs would try and shft money to AA candidates in political races where cacs had a financial/political stake in the outcome.
5. Cacs would use the media to construct a narrative justification for federal action against AA politicians who act against their perceived financial/political interest.

6.
Federal government would withhold funds(educational, agricultural, etc) to force compliance with whatever policy they are currently pushing.
7. Federal government would change/tighten customs laws/policy and target shipments for excessive search.(think Arab treatment by TSA)
8. Federal government would under supply national guard armories in AA states.
9. Regional utility companies(power, water, gas) would shut down(skeleton crew) various aspects of their operations short of cac areas.

10. Areas with wealthy AA would be targeted with retail goods to siphon money out the community
11. Exceptional Industrial / s.t.e.m talent would be targeted for hire outside the community
12. Cacs would simply commute to AA jurisdictions where they still worked.

13. Some cacs would just live where ever they could afford & feel welcome, regardless of who is in charge


Context (How did I come to the above 13 points?)
I'm going to come at this question from the angle of a historical analysis of living down south in the U.S. black belt region.(the area in deep purple on the map)
US+Map+ethnicities.jpg


Growing up in a place like Birmingham, Alabama I'm used to seeing AA at all levels of society be it mayor, judges, business owners, police, construction, teachers, office workers, lawyers, retail, sanitation, doctors(aunts a general surgeon at Princeton medical center), etc. I have to say a lot of the stuff I hear from not only yall in this thread but on thecoli in general just throws me off and really highlights the issue of "regional bias/realities" for lack of a better term. Stuff like the convo I'm having with @NoChill Jones above is just baffling to me on certain levels because it flies directly in the face of my lived "regional reality" in the U.S.

For example:
1. You have people who grew up in white majority suburbs or cities that can't wrap their head around the fact that there are those of us who grew up just fine in a black ran city or in the case here that such places really even do/can exist.
2. You also have AA who grew up in the "hood" who think that all places where AA are the majority is exactly like their "hood" and want to escape to white suburbs
3. You have people like myself who grew up middle class in a black ran city who are blind to the issues of direct racism that people in majority white communities face.(I couldn't imagine stop & frisk)

Growing up my daddy worked at AT&T in the advertising(yellow pages) dept while my ma worked at AT&T in your standard H.R. middle management gig. I.E. we were "relatively" comfortable(we had all out needs and most of our wants met). That said we still grew up in a "financially integrated" black area. Everything from warehouse worker & McDonald manager to nurse & electrician.
When I see black folks get shot down without accountability, stop & frisk, courts fukking over AA by stacking jury/ not prosecuting,etc etc etc.
That kinda shyt is foreign to me, nowhere near my "regional reality". Which leads me to think, why do they continue to live under the jurisdiction of cacs when we see how they treat us:dwillhuh:

:dwillhuh:police brutality don't happen in atlanta?

:coffee:
Let cacs govern over your locality then complain how they treat you bruhs
(this shyt is damn near a science)

Atlanta


Black or African American 51.4%
White 41.3%
—Non-Hispanic 38.3%
Asian 3.7%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 4.7%


Birmingham, Alabama





According to the 2010 U.S. Census:
73.4% Black/African American
22.3% White
0.2% Native American
1.0% Asian
0.0% Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander
1.0% Two or more races
2.1% Other races
3.6% Hispanic or Latino (of any race)


Now obviously everyone can't afford to move :whoa: But luckily there is a back migration of African Americans to the south already under way.
After nearly 100 years, Great Migration begins reversal
New Great Migration - Wikipedia


This leads me to put forth 3 positions...
1. The meat of the Civil rights era was about gaining the capacity to govern ourselves and politically manage our own lives.
(whenever I hear people who don't live in the south talk about "integration" my eyes glaze over ...they are typically people who still live under cac jurisdictions)
2. When African Americans gained control of jurisdictions in the south cacs divested from those locations politically, physically, & economically.
3. I put forth almost nothing that doesn't already exist in the U.S. ...I simply expand on it.

In parts of this region before the civil rights era AA made up the bulk of the populous but cacs wouldn't allow them to vote without harassment. So cacs could govern a county with only a %20+/- cac population. When the voting rights bill was passed and AA where able to vote in their own representatives the local cac population left to areas where they were governing their own locality.

They did this by...
1. Physically packing up and moving to a new home
2. Politically voting the locality where they were the majority, out of the larger city and consolidating in their own small enclaves that they govern.
3. Economically they took two different approaches
a. Areas where cacs had significant infrastructure: Retail infrastructure was gradually closed down and moved to jurisdictions where cacs lived. Office space Infrastructure was simply commuted to.
b. Areas where cacs had little to no significant infrastructure: Almost complete divestment no hospitals, restaurants, banks, grocery stores, office space, etc. Maybe low cost fastfood and a walmart.

On a city level cacs funded AA candidates from the shadows that where in line with cac agendas.
On the state level cacs enacted temporary "emergency management" "take over" powers, be it school or city government.
On the federal level they denied funding to jurisdictions/entities who don't operate by their policies.
 
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