If Bernie doesn't get the nod how are you voting (POLL)
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so kagan and sotemayor have presided over these cases and voted in a negative way?
Look it up I'm tired of saying the same thing. Never would I vote for Clinton and I explained the policy differences numerous of times.
Rarebird77
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Both insure exactly what I stated.
That Roe v. Wade gets upheld and that immigration reform gets passed.
Got anything to say?
but no proof of it, just your feelings. and we don't even know what this potential case that would be brought to the supreme court would even look like.
Rarebird77
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Then why care about who gets the supreme court nod?
You don't know what they will do either.
Why then should anyone rush to the polls to pick a President who gets to vote for a new Justice if there's no way of knowing how they'll vote anyway.
Gary Johnson
Obama was one of them
Four years earlier he was a speaker at the DNC Convention. Not bashing Obama, I'm just telling you that he was an establishment candidate. Bernie is an outsider that had to run as a Democrat for name recognition. Superdelegates are there, so they can rig it for their candidate.
Well I don't follow you around threads, so.
As to your other point, Obama might have been more to the right than Sanders, but he was still fighting uphill to combat the political strength and name recognition of Clinton. The superdelegates overwhelmingly supported Clinton until she started making bald faced lies like the Bosnia trip, and people called her out for it. We had very similar results in the actual elections up until then too.
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The point was that the election was between two establishment candidates. Also, Dennis Kucinich was ousted he was 08's Bernie. The guy was for gay marriage and etc. It was originally suppose to come down to O'Malley (Your establishment candidate) and Clinton, but the people loved Bernie because of his platform.
Things I agree with Trump on: His stance against TPP and Fair Trade. To do that BOTH sides have to be equal. It cannot be a one sided agreement.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
It was true in 2008 as well, the difference is that republicans had a clear path to saving themselves. Instead they took the exact opposite path - anti immigration and anti Hispanic in many respects. Note I'm not talking about congress; republicans continue to have advantages in districts throughout the country and that won't immediately change, even after the 2020 census. But nationally the party as it currently stands doesn't have a path to 270 without outside factors such as an economic implosion or scandal.
It's nigh impossible to be elected president without winning nearly 43% of the Hispanic vote. Romney was at 27%, Trump will likely get 20%. A Trump nomination is very likely to ruin the party with Hispanics for the foreseeable future.
Just as Pete Wilson destroyed republicans with Hispanics in California, I think Trump will do the same nationally.
Republicans have shown for the past 20 years that they don't need Congress or the Presidency to run the country.
except trump isnt a 'republican'
voting trump isnt the same as cruz or kasich. i wouldnt actually vote for those two
especially because they would be being selected by the repub establishment, which is what im voting againsttrump IS NOT. hes arguably the only candidate selected by the people against the will of the party. fukk that pic
some of you fags need to take into account that just because americans have only been left with two choices for 'party', that doesnt mean trump or bernie are actually of that party. they didnt have a choice but to borrow the name
does trump represent the republican party and establishment?
does bernie represent the democratic party and establishment?
Unfortunately both Bernie and Trump will be brought unto their chosen party's fold if they were to win office. Just how it goes. We saw it with Obama, a smarter and more well liked guy than either of them. I have no doubt the same can and will happen with them too.
Trump is too busy planning his own 3rd party run if the Repubs screw him over in the convention