If Asian Americans saw white Americans the way white Americans see Black Americans

[Raava]

Thoughts on this Article?

http://qz.com/395207/if-asian-ameri...-the-way-white-americans-see-black-americans/

White Americans often use Asian Americans as examples of the “model minority,” a reference to the perception that they are high achievers relative to other American ethnic groups.

If Asian Americans talked about white Americans the way whites talk about black folks, they'd bring back the Exclusion Act.
— Anil Dash (@anildash) April 30, 2015

Anil Dash, an Indian American and co-founder of social media analytics company ThinkUp, put out a series of tweets challenging the thinking behind that trope. Asian Americans aren’t just model minorities, he argues. Data show that they have surpassed white Americans in so many ways that Asian Americans could talk about white Americans as disparagingly as white Americans talk about the country’s black population.

We could point at how white Americans compare to Asian Americans in violence, in education, in income. We could call your kids thugs.
— Anil Dash (@anildash) April 30, 2015

Asian American men and women both earn more than their white counterparts:
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Young Asian Americans, those between ages 25-29, are better educated than white Americans (these data also include Hispanics who also identify as white or black in those categories).

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But when I hear a white man on TV talk about "where are the dads?" or "why are they so violent?" Fix your shyt, my white friends. Fix it.

— Anil Dash (@anildash) April 30, 2015

The divorce rate for Asian Americans is also lower than that of white Americans. (It’s worth noting that a higher divorce rate doesn’t necessarily translate into absentee parents.)
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A 2009 report (pdf, pg. 3) from the National Council on Crime and Delinquency (NCCD) found that a smaller share of Asian Americans were incarcerated compared to the share of white Americans. In this case, the Asian American category includes people of Asian and Pacific Islander descent. By more recent estimates, white Americans, including Hispanics who identify as white, made up 78% of the US population in 2013 and 59% of the US federal inmate population in 2015, while Asian Americans made up 5.3% of the US population in 2013 and 1.5% of the federal inmate population. (The sentencing rate within an ethnic community does not necessarily reflect the level of violence within that group.)
Asian Americans don’t blame “white culture” for individual crimes among white people, Dash points out. So why do white Americans blame crime among black people on “black culture”?

I am glad that white Americans don't have to endure the daily dehumanization that black people do; nobody should have to.

— Anil Dash (@anildash) April 30, 2015

But imagine if every time a white person underwent a tragedy, you heard Asians mentioning white on white crime & white dropouts. Inhuman.

— Anil Dash (@anildash) April 30, 2015

At work will give mine later

 

[Mowgli]

Why do white people spend most their time comparing themselves to the people at the bottom of the economic ladder

 

[DrX]

lol cacs about to black wall street them soon..

 

[Raava]

Why do white people spend most their time comparing themselves to the people at the bottom of the economic ladder

To feel superior.

 

[Mowgli]

To feel superior.

O yea duh

 

[Raava]

My thoughts are, if I can think of a way to say it, back handed empathy. Though very interesting and eye opening way to look at things.

The guy Anil, is saying that Asians are the superior minority. Just trying to show a mirror to white people and say you are just as bad. It doesn't take into account the social and economic reason behind the issues with Blacks. The stats are depressing too.

I do think that it is interesting that even with all the advantages they aren't the highest in ranking.

It also makes me think about how our family structure and bonds have been pulled apart. Other cultures are strong in that. We have been westernized, become wrapped up in individualism vs. community. I wonder what the divorce stats are between Black americans and other Blacks.

 

[godkiller]

So what?

My thoughts are I kind of feel like is, if I can think of a way to say it, back handed empathy. Though very interesting and eye opening way to look at things.

The guy Anil, is saying that Asians are the superior minority. Just trying to show a mirror to white people and say you are just as bad. It doesn't take into account the social and economic reason behind the issues with Blacks. The stats are depressing too.

I do think that it is interesting that even with all the advantages they aren't the highest in ranking.

It also makes me think about how our family structure and bonds have been pulled apart. Other cultures are strong in that. We have been westernized, become wrapped up in individualism vs. community. I wonder what the divorce stats are between Black americans and other Blacks.

I understand the point of this article, but it's ridiculous to compare immigrant populations composed of selectively chosen people against natives composed of random every people. The average Indian actually scores lower on international testing than the average European. This is the correct comparison since neither are selectively chosen in that case. In other words, cacs are smarter than Indians.

 

[bcrusaderw]

My thoughts are I kind of feel like is, if I can think of a way to say it, back handed empathy. Though very interesting and eye opening way to look at things.

The guy Anil, is saying that Asians are the superior minority. Just trying to show a mirror to white people and say you are just as bad. It doesn't take into account the social and economic reason behind the issues with Blacks. The stats are depressing too.

I do think that it is interesting that even with all the advantages they aren't the highest in ranking.

It also makes me think about how our family structure and bonds have been pulled apart. Other cultures are strong in that. We have been westernized, become wrapped up in individualism vs. community. I wonder what the divorce stats are between Black americans and other Blacks.

Agreed, but if it will enrage white people then I have few qualms with it.

 

[Truth200]

Bu bu but what about Asian Supremacy?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/asia...-spot-for-household-income-in-america.268938/

 

[godkiller]

And just when I forgot you were white.

First off all tests are biased toward the people who design them.

Second off India is just now leaving its status as a third world country. The randomly chosen indian person is likely to be living in poverty and to be under-educated compared to the randomly chosen European.

Stupid, stupid comparison.

I'm not white and I wasn't being serious with that comment. I was just trying to show how the data is misleading.

 

[Raava]

So what?


I understand the point of this article, but it's ridiculous to compare immigrant populations composed of selectively chosen people against natives composed of random every people. The average Indian actually scores lower on international testing than the average European. This is the correct comparison since neither are selectively chosen in that case. In other words, cacs are smarter than Indians.

They are talking about in America, I am sure a white american would score lower than a European as well. Our education system is trash in comparison. I also think that with the system being biased, the fact that an immigrant can come in and beat them at their own game says something. This again is something I don't like about the article, that fact that they can come in with their culture and pride intact, with out the same stigma and prejudice has an impact. We will never get that.

 

[godkiller]

They are talking about in America, I am sure a white american would score lower than a European as well. Our education system is trash in comparison. I also think that with the system being biased, the fact that an immigrant can come in and beat them at their own game says something. This again is something I don't like about the article, that fact that they can come in with their culture and pride intact, with out the same stigma and prejudice has an impact. We will never get that.

American education is fine. Immigrants are just more highly selected than American native whites and blacks, whom have been in America for hundreds of years and compose all types of people. If you only select people with PhDs from Wachovia, their children will score higher than people with Bachelor's from America. This is the main reason immigrants score higher than Americans.

 

[Dwolf]

American education is fine. Immigrants are just more highly selected than American native whites and blacks, whom have been in America for hundreds of years and compose all types of people. If you only select people with PhDs from Wachovia, their children will score higher than people with Bachelor's from America. This is the main reason immigrants score higher than Americans.

No it is not.

 

[marcuz]

Why do white people spend most their time comparing themselves to the people at the bottom of the economic ladder

the same reason asians and other non-black minorities are able to prosper so easily.

cacs being so focused on hindering black people, everyone else (including other white people) sneak right on past

 

[godkiller]

No it is not.

Studies say American education is fine, breh. It's your parents which mainly determines how smart you are. Some people don't even have to go to formal school to get into Harvard.