IDF ground invasion of Gaza( Israel killed 2,700+ Palestinians) (Hamas is victorious)

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1. Hamas never claimed responsibility for the kidnappings.

2. The kidnapping happened in the West Bank, what do the people of Gaza have to do with that.

3. Kidnapping and murder are criminal offense, which the killers should be brought to justice. It does not give Israel the right to lob bombs at densely urban populated areas. That is a war crime.

4. Would the United States allow a Country to lob rockets at it, of course not, but the United States does not impose a military blockade of a Nation by land, air and sea. Once the people of Gaza elected Hamas to run there government. Israel implemented a complete blockade of Gaza. Israel has complete control of movement's in and out of Gaza of people and goods, the United Nations came out with a report that this greatly effects the Palestinians standard of living. These people are basically living in an apartheid state. Israel is all up in the offers and controls Gaza economically. If the United States placed a blockade on Mexico or Canada, what the fukk you think will happen.

4 points of utter spin. Do you work for CAIR?

1. There are recording of Hamas operatives in regards to the killings.

2. Is has to do with Hamas. It has to do with Hamas firing rockets at Israel. LOL

3. A.) They're at war. B.) When they find them perhaps they will be prosecuted. The reason for what is currently going on in Gaza is in response to rockets.

4. Not worth responding to
 

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4 points of utter spin. Do you work for CAIR?

1. There are recording of Hamas operatives in regards to the killings.

2. Is has to do with Hamas. It has to do with Hamas firing rockets at Israel. LOL

3. A.) They're at war. B.) When they find them perhaps they will be prosecuted. The reason for what is currently going on in Gaza is in response to rockets.

4. Not worth responding to
Who the fukk is this clown? Jesus christ, I am SICK reading his bullshyt.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
actually, they did destroy Gaza's only rehabilitation center: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/hospital-evacuate-patients.html

Barbaric.


Our media is disgusting too, have you seen this shyt -

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Literally reduced them to "the others".
 

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Yall really think Israel should just sit back on their missile defense system though? :ohhh:



Hamas hasn't yet found an effective way to attack Israel, that doesnt mean they should be given carte blanche to develop one. THEY DONT RESPECT THE EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL... meaning they would eradicate the state, if given the chance.

The conflict is an existential one... I dont think yall understand what that means.. Palestinians have a right to fight. So does Israel....Even though they brought the war on themselves by treating the Gaza strip like a refugee camp.. they still have that right.
What the fukk would Obama do if Al Quada was stationed in Mexico, launching missiles nonchalantly and looking to cross the border?? Yall really think some amigo's wouldnt be catching collateral fades? :ohhh:
Lets not forget, our own army was burning ENTIRE villages back in the 1970s. muhfukkas on here are really acting like this is some new kind of evil. The level of anti-semitism is just:wow:
 

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How are the wars of 1948 and 1967 seen from Arab/Muslim viewpoints? Is their any acknowledgement of aggression by Arab forces?
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Yall really think Israel should just sit back on their missile defense system though? :ohhh:



Hamas hasn't yet found an effective way to attack Israel, that doesnt mean they should be given carte blanche to develop one. THEY DONT RESPECT THE EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL... meaning they would eradicate the state, if given the chance.

The conflict is an existential one... I dont think yall understand what that means.. Palestinians have a right to fight. So does Israel....Even though they brought the war on themselves by treating the Gaza strip like a refugee camp.. they still have that right.
What the fukk would Obama do if Al Quada was stationed in Mexico, launching missiles nonchalantly and looking to cross the border?? Yall really think some amigo's wouldnt be catching collateral fades? :ohhh:
Lets not forget, our own army was burning ENTIRE villages back in the 1970s. muhfukkas on here are really acting like this is some new kind of evil. The level of anti-semitism is just:wow:


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No, this would be more like America taking over the state of Baja California in Mexico and confining the Mexicans that live there to Tijuana and Tecate, surrounding them with walls and slowly allowing American settlers to take more and more land from Tijuana and Tecate. Eventually, some shyt is going to come flying over those walls as people get more and more frustrated, and those people doing it would be labeled terrorists and vilified even though it's simply natural to resist.
 

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4 points of utter spin. Do you work for CAIR?

1. There are recording of Hamas operatives in regards to the killings.

2. Is has to do with Hamas. It has to do with Hamas firing rockets at Israel. LOL

3. A.) They're at war. B.) When they find them perhaps they will be prosecuted. The reason for what is currently going on in Gaza is in response to rockets.

4. Not worth responding to

All I here is what the United States will do in this situation and being attack by rockets, but when we dive deeper into the situation it's not worth responding. I see you don't have an argument:lupe:

So lets educate ourselves about the situation and it has nothing to so with some damn rockets
1. The occupation

Israel, with U.S. support, has militarily occupied the Gaza Strip (along with the West Bank and East Jerusalem) since 1967. The belligerent occupation, now in its 47th year, is one of the longest, bloodiest and brutal in human history -- over 2,500 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza alone in the last seven years.

Up until 2005, Israel maintained illegal Jewish colonies in the Gaza Strip as well. It has since disbanded these colonies and thus claims it's no longer occupying the Gaza strip. Israel is alone in holding this deceptive view; the UN, US State Department, global NGO's and legal scholars all consider Gaza a part of the Occupied Palestinian Territories because Israel exercises complete military control over it.

2. The siege

Israel, with U.S. backing, has laid a brutal siege in the Gaza Strip since 2007. It has blocked off air, land and water access to the Strip -- nothing goes in, nothing comes out. Gaza has thus aptly been described as the 'world's largest open air prison.'

The siege has stifled the economy, destroyed the infrastructure and cut off access to some of the most basic amenities needed to live a dignified life. Today, almost 80 per cent of Gazans are dependent on aid as a result of the blockade. The UN has warnedGaza will be inhospitable by 2020 if the siege continues.

3. The water crises

Israel's discriminatory division of water means that Palestinians get 70 litres a day per person (far below the 100 liters per capita minimum). Limiting the water supply means households in Gaza receive running water for only six-eight hours at a time about every other day. Israel severely damaged the sewage treatment infrastructure in Gaza during its 2009 assault; the blockade means the resources needed for repairs are unavailable. As a result, only 25 per cent of Gaza's waster water is treated; 90 million liters of untreated or partially treated sewage is dumped into the Mediterranean every day. Thus, Gaza's only water source, its Coastal Aquifer, is past the point of no return -- it will expire in 2016. At present, about 90 per cent of the water supply in the Strip is contaminated and unfit for human consumption.

4. Fuel and electricity shortage

Gaza is under a chronic power shortage due to the siege; Israel has severely limited thefuel supply needed to operate the only power plant in the territory. Only 46 per cent of Gaza's electricity needs are being met currently; this has triggered rolling power outages of 12 hours everyday on average. Amongst other things, this lack of power means that hundreds of crucial medical devices at hospital are non-functional, including Gaza's only MRI machine.

5. Leveling of land and destruction of property

The Israeli army conducts weekly incursions into the Gaza Strip to destroy the land it has declared as 'no-go zone.' Its tanks, bulldozers and military jeeps, accompanied by helicopters and drones, systematically destroy fruit bearing trees and agricultural land in the Gaza strip. Civilian infrastructure in this area is also demolished; this includes hundreds of houses, wells and chicken farms -- mosques and schools are demolished as well.

6. Travel bans

Israel's siege has meant that it is virtually impossible for Gazans to leave the occupied territory. They can't even leave to visit their relatives in the West Bank, let alone in Israel. Gazans with spouses in Israel or the West Bank are forced to live in separation; simple matters such as raising a family are rendered impracticable. Permission to leave even for severe emergencies is rarely given.

By dividing Palestinians, Israel successfully employs the 'divide and conquer' strategy like colonial powers of the past. The people of Gaza can't even seek asylum in other countries due to this restriction on movement. Even students are prohibited go to the abroad, or even the West Bank, for higher education; in 2008 visas of seven winners of U.S. Fullbright Scholarships were revoked.

7. Farming restrictions

The Israeli army created a 'no-go zone' along the Israel-Gaza border that Palestinians cannot enter. This 'buffer region' extends up to 1,500 meters at times into the Strip and includes some of its most fertile land. As a result, 35 per cent of the agricultural space in Gaza is off-limits to farmers. Palestinians are fired at arbitrarily if they try to enter this region, which is often carried out from remotely controlled weapon stations. Farmers suffer serious injuries, and at times death, as a result of this indiscriminate firing.

8. Fishing restrictions

Israel has announced that access to the sea six nautical miles beyond Gaza's shore isprohibited for fisherman. This means that 85 per cent of fishing waters granted to Palestinians under the Oslo Accords is now inaccessible; this is severely impacted Gaza's coastal economy. Similar to the restricted areas on land, Palestinian fishermen are regularly exposed to warning fire by Israeli naval forces, their fishing boats are intercepted and they are detained -- all for the harmless act of fishing.

So, in light of the above, let's try to counter the statements coming out of the foreign affairs office: No people would ever tolerate an oppressive occupation and an unjust siege, so why should the Palestinians?
 

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There was no aggression from the Arabs

From a military standpoint there definitely was. There wasn't an invasion by several countries in 1948, or placing of military along the borders in 1967? That's military aggresion.

how can a response to ethnic cleansing, regardless of how ineffectual or disingenuous it was, be considered "aggression"?

In 1948? Several countries invaded Israel did they not?
 
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