Ice-T/Soledad O'Brien Fox Special:Tupac & Biggie's Death Separated Crews[Preview]
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I doubt Pac would have his gun in a vegas casino,or that he would kill somebody without being in present danger?
Why not punch em to let them know that you know whats going on. But like i said,whether its a hit or bounty on chains its the same thing basically.
I know Pac made some fukked up decisions in his life but you have to give him a little more credit
I doubt Pac would just punch a nikka who threatened his life to "let them know what's going on"
Nobody expects a driveby to happen at the vegas strip,Pac had plenty of security that wouldve been surrounding him.
and your point is one big assumption,you can shoot two cops,go for your gun with guns drawn on you,screaming on Jimmy Henchmen,but punching a respected crip where the line is drawn with Pac? I dont know,maybe,maybe not. But its one big assumption that didnt have anything to do with my statement,so you didnt really have a point,you had a random statement.
plus lets not act like we know why Pac jumped Orlando. Either way whether it be bounty on chains,or a hit,not sure why you glossing over the rest of what i said about Biggie and Puff doint that being the cause of both of the murders.
did they not learn the last time when nikkas just came to "rob" Pac,when you sending orders through killers to do your dirty work you do it knowing a murder COULD happen....not sure why yall like to gloss over this.
"Bu bu but Badboy just sent known serial killers to take Pac and other deathrow nikkas chains,harmless fun guys"
But Pac makes a diss record,and its "His energy caused the death of himself and Biggie"
cant make this shyt up folks
yea theres no way they expected retaliation that same night...
cuz i think they knew keefe and crew didnt carry guns out to vegas...
just like they didnt even bring their own cars, it was always a rental...
but after the fight zip hands keefe the gun and they improvise...
pac probly told his girl to stay in the hotel cuz they knew crips were gonna be at 662 scouting the area...
and he didnt want them to see her walking in with him and the mob crew.... cuz then she was gonna be a potential target by affiliation...
thats the only logical reason i can think of why pac woulda told her to stay back... but then not wear the vest...
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u sound damn near like a FOOL with that first sentence....Nobody expects a driveby to happen at the vegas strip,Pac had plenty of security that wouldve been surrounding him.
and your point is one big assumption,you can shoot two cops,go for your gun with guns drawn on you,screaming on Jimmy Henchmen,but punching a respected crip where the line is drawn with Pac
plus lets not act like we know why Pac jumped Orlando. Either way whether it be bounty on chains,or a hit,not sure why you glossing over the rest of what i said about Biggie and Puff doint that being the cause of both of the murders.
did they not learn the last time when nikkas just came to "rob" Pac,when you sending orders through killers to do your dirty work you do it knowing a murder COULD happen....not sure why yall like to gloss over this.
"Bu bu but Badboy just sent known serial killers to take Pac and other deathrow nikkas chains,harmless fun guys
But Pac makes a diss record,and its "His energy caused the death of himself and Biggie
cant make this shyt up folks
so lets get this str8....u got CALI GANGBANGERS.....nahhh fawk that....u got COMPTON GANGBANGERS, who just banged on a KNOWN AND STREET RESPECTED CRIP, who is backed by one of the most well known crips in LA or Compton, and u meaning to tell me all these gangsterz with the experience they have would have never thought the man allegedly hired to kill suge and pac, and they just whooped his ass in PUBLIC, that he wouldn't come back blasting --- at the LEAST Pac would have vested up, just like he did in NYC when he felt his life was in danger.
2...at the time of the shooting Pac didn't know those guys were cops. i still give him his stripes for it, and when he pulled his GUN out during the robbery, it was b/c he had a GUN, just like here in atlanta, he had a GUN.....he did not have a GUN in that casino........Pac would not have walked up and punched orlando in the face had he not had MOB's backing and Orlando was there by himself......would not have happened......that was Pac's ammo....Pac was that dude, but go do the research..he was known for jumping people.
Yeah they expected it,but decided instead of hanging out in the room,they would go drive down the strip and bring attention to themselves by being very loud
You asking these questions,like "Why didnt he have on a vest","these compton gangbangers didnt expect retaliation?"....Im a fool but you cant put two and two together,dont YOUR questions lead you to believe that obviously they WERENT expecting a driveby that night
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What people need to be asking Lil Cease and EDI Amin is that if they were the same crew , how come Biggie ain't ride for them when they was shot?If they was the same crew how come Pac had to stop kicking it with Haitian Jack and Henchmen when Big and his crew didn't?
That story just doesn't make any sense.
Check out Biggie and his crew with the Henchmen.
That story just doesn't make any sense.
Check out Biggie and his crew with the Henchmen.
I don't think biggie & cease knew beforehand that pac was gonna get robbed at Quad. they definitely knew the details after it went down tho, and were too scared to say anything. plus they were prolly mad that pac pointed fingers at them. you can tell biggie really felt like pac owed him an apology.
the west coast shooting tho, I doubt biggie had a hand in any of that, but he def knew what was going down, and he paraded around, tapdancing on pac's grave. I cant really feel sorry for biggie like they try to force us to feel.
i know like 80% of da posters on here hate the man
but none of yall can give a legitamate reason WHY IN DA HELL would puff set him up
what shooting are you referring to?
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Why would somebody who has his own documentary, book, and pending TV show, who spent a good amount of years compiling the information, interviewing witnesses, and investigating and debunking various possibilities go on a competing network to promote the exact opposite of what he's already done?
The information presented in Murder Rap is plausible to any objective eyes. I just cant take anyone's opinion of Murder Rap serious who dismisses it because it came from a cop.
Only a idiot could think suge could orchestrate a hit from behind bars under watch....that's more PAC n suge slanderto me what strengthens the suge angle with biggies death is his girl who allegedly helped him has never ever denied it ONCE.....when they was trying to bring Sharita Knight name in the mud, she came out immediately and shut that shiiit down......All i know if somebody had my name in the press saying i had something to do with biggies killing, i would clear my name and sue the shiit out the mfer
not one lawsuit has been filed on kading and he making tv shows now, writing books, releasing dvds, and don't tell me the peeps he called out cant afford to retain an attorney(s)
makes ya wonder
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This man gets it. Suge and Pac both knew it was money on their heads via The crips paid for by the dudes out of New York. These nikkas stupid and cant read between the lines. It was multiple meetings to squash it with Pac and Suge and the OGs from NY but for whatever puffy either didnt want to show up or was too shook to. They got caught slippin bc they werent expecting a hit to go down on the Vegas strip.thats every rapper,if you have attack somebody,the whole crew attacking. Your statement doesnt have anything to do with mine,Pac didnt send them to jump Orlando,and not sure about this "affinity" for jumping people being different from any other rapper who has a crew or security.
So you really think he randomly "jumped" Orlando?and not because Orlando and his crew already had a hit out on Pac
He wouldve got killed regardless,his only mistake was not shooting Orlando.
Yall are naive thinking Pac and Suge wouldnt have known about a hit that was out on them,coming from other Cali nikkas,when they was on a label full of crips with plenty of heavy crip affiliations....unless yall believe gang bangers keep quiet.
Orlando was running his mouth after he killed Pac,you think SSCC wasnt running they mouth beforehand? Thats why Orlando got his ass jumped.
let me make this clear, i only caught the tail ending (so i dunno what lead up to them having Kading on) with that said - the impression was that Kading was scheduled to be in this documentary and at the last minute backed out (so all that shyt you posted about his book, doc & new show doesn't apply)
and YES
his doc is extremely a conflict of interest do to him being hired solely to clear LAPD/DR killing biggie
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