I think it's safe to say Prime Yoda> Sidius

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It's ill that Episode III shows why the Emperor feared Luke becoming a true Jedi so much, it's because he simply can be beaten.

Mace pulled his card and remember Palpatine even tries to run from Yoda in the beginning. According to George a focused Anakin was also stronger in Episode III.
 

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It's ill that Episode III shows why the Emperor feared Luke becoming a true Jedi so much, it's because he simply can be beaten.

Mace pulled his card and remember Palpatine even tries to run from Yoda in the beginning. According to George a focused Anakin was also stronger in Episode III.
Palpatine is no slouch with a lightsaber though which shows just how good Mace was. But Palpatine was more about using that Force Lightening
 

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Palpatine is no slouch with a lightsaber though which shows just how good Mace was. But Palpatine was more about using that Force Lightening

Absolutely him Mace Yoda and focused Anakin were probably in a league of their own.

Anakin made quick work of Dooku who was supposed to be one of the illest swordfighters in the order - the only one beside Yoda who bested Mace (once) in a training session.

Obi-Wan beat him because Anakin was out of his mind.

Palpatine's genius is his mind.
 

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Mace is better than Palpatine with a lightsaber. His fighting style Vaapad is fueled by a darksider's emotions.

But in terms of Force prowess, Palpatine > Yoda.

1.Abeloth





2.Luke (As grandmaster)
3. Palpatine

That is until Disney ruined everything.
 

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Mace is better than Palpatine with a lightsaber. His fighting style Vaapad is fueled by a darksider's emotions.

But in terms of Force prowess, Palpatine > Yoda.

1.Abeloth





2.Luke (As grandmaster)
3. Palpatine

That is until Disney ruined everything.
if I'm not mistaken the old EU were never canon. Outside of names and species I don't Lucas paid it any mind.
 

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if I'm not mistaken the old EU were never canon. Outside of names and species I don't Lucas paid it any mind.
I thought EU was canon pre-Disney hence me saying Disney f*cked everything up?

George Lucas isn't even aware of the scope of the universe he created. Don't get me wrong I adore the man (n/h) for creating such a universe but in retrospect the flaws of the OG trilogy and prequels make it hard for me to enjoy as much as the EU.

The EU >>>>>>> All 7 soon to be 8 films.
And that is a rare occurrence in fiction.
When the equivalent of sanctioned fan fiction is superior to the original work.
 

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I thought EU was canon pre-Disney hence me saying Disney f*cked everything up?

George Lucas isn't even aware of the scope of the universe he created. Don't get me wrong I adore the man (n/h) for creating such a universe but in retrospect the flaws of the OG trilogy and prequels make it hard for me to enjoy as much as the EU.

The EU >>>>>>> All 7 soon to be 8 films.
And that is a rare occurrence in fiction.
When the equivalent of sanctioned fan fiction is superior to the original work.
Disney itself is taking bits of EU which us why Ben Solo exists in the movies now.
 
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