"I should've brought Joe Budden out to perform Pump It Up...F*ck them n*ggas man" - Drake

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Lets actually face reality for once bruhs....

Joe has the greenlight now to drop his other 200 diss tracks, that only the Internet will really care about
Yeah cause people posting on the internet are just robots, especially anyone that doesn't have drakes dikk in their mouth :troll:
 

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Drake will never "win" with the Coli :francis:

If he don't reply, he's a p*ssy

If he does reply and it's not "ether" status, he's whack

If he does reply and it IS "ether" status, somebody else must have wrote it
Which is why discussing this beef on the coli is completely irrelevant. Dude had help with some bars on his least lyrical tracks of all times, now they think he needs writers for his lyrical shyt. Dude can obviously write ill bars, I just think he might get some help to invent new styles. Dude has showcased more new styles than most rappers who have been active since the 90s.

Perhaps it's wrong, but if you always work with the same producers I can still understand it. Cause usually it's the producers that help people come up with new styles.
 

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Which is why discussing this beef on the coli is completely irrelevant. Dude had help with some bars on his least lyrical tracks of all times, now they think he needs writers for his lyrical shyt. Dude can obviously write ill bars, I just think he might get some help to invent new styles. Dude has showcased more new styles than most rappers who have been active since the 90s.

Perhaps it's wrong, but if you always work with the same producers I can still understand it. Cause usually it's the producers that help people come up with new styles.

Hush is his "lyrical" writer homie. There's evidence of him writing for him since 09 so the idea that he's only getting help with new styles goes out the window especially when you see his name on damn near every song on Take Care and Nothing was the same.
 

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It's different era guys. I was listening to French Montana on XM last night and it drove the point home:

They asked him can you be in the top 5 if you got ghost writers and his response was you gotta give what the people want. And if the people love ya music, thing a "little" thing like writing ya own music shouldn't effect it.

So basically, it's about how the fan perceive you. And the dollars. Back in the era of Pacs, Biggies, Nas, Jay-z and DMX and Cubes, it was about how real you were. And we policed ourselves meaning if you were trash, nikkas checked you. Yea you had pop acts and corny rappers but still there was a level of respect for the art. People call Mc Hammer corny or a sell out but there was art and care into his craft. He respected the art form. These new nikkas don't have that in em. They bytch made.


So in conclusion, the money machine is gonna keep on going. It's about relationships and if you wanna stay viable, Drake got the juice. He the cash cow. And people are gonna have a blind eye to his lack of authencity because working with Drake brings in revenue. I applaud Joe for trying to bring back the era where you couldn't leave the house until the rhymes were polished. Until you had the flow right. Where you wrote from your own soul. You took ya life and displayed it over thumping bass lines and hard drums and snares. But in today's world of digital sales, image branding, memes, and all around suck ass bullshyt, that realness don't matter.
 

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It's different era guys. I was listening to French Montana on XM last night and it drove the point home:

They asked him can you be in the top 5 if you got ghost writers and his response was you gotta give what the people want. And if the people love ya music, thing a "little" thing like writing ya own music shouldn't effect it.

So basically, it's about how the fan perceive you. And the dollars. Back in the era of Pacs, Biggies, Nas, Jay-z and DMX and Cubes, it was about how real you were. And we policed ourselves meaning if you were trash, nikkas checked you. Yea you had pop acts and corny rappers but still there was a level of respect for the art. People call Mc Hammer corny or a sell out but there was art and care into his craft. He respected the art form. These new nikkas don't have that in em. They bytch made.


So in conclusion, the money machine is gonna keep on going. It's about relationships and if you wanna stay viable, Drake got the juice. He the cash cow. And people are gonna have a blind eye to his lack of authencity because working with Drake brings in revenue. I applaud Joe for trying to bring back the era where you couldn't leave the house until the rhymes were polished. Until you had the flow right. Where you wrote from your own soul. You took ya life and displayed it over thumping bass lines and hard drums and snares. But in today's world of digital sales, image branding, memes, and all around suck ass bullshyt, that realness don't matter.
What french said is essentially that people want good music and they don't care how the sausage is made. People will 100% take good music over trash music that is "authentic". Case in point - buddens career
 

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Hush is his "lyrical" writer homie. There's evidence of him writing for him since 09 so the idea that he's only getting help with new styles goes out the window especially when you see his name on damn near every song on Take Care and Nothing was the same.
I'm not even reading you dudes comments, sorry.
 

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He's not spitting anything tho :stopitslime:

But I'm anxious for another response by Joe.

Bruhs

Imagine if the next diss features Pusha :mjcry:









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:jbhmm: ........ This dude should respond in a full track or stfu. Tired of these nikkas saying they part of hip hops elite but not laying down bars. Or they go the "they not on my level" route but still talk shyt n throw subs... And most of these new millennials gobble that shyt up like its the truth. This is what hip hop has become.....

:pacspit:


yup, these ''elite" rappers need to step it up and release records out of response or just fall back already. this era is ass cheeks for real.
 
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