I said Steph Curry has the best skillset of any pg ever and my friends say im wilding

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Steph doesn't have the best skillset of all-time. What Steph has is a very good/great skillset, and ONE skill that is so exceptionally high that it elevates everything else. And he also utilizes his skillset to the highest level.

I mean, what about their actual SKILLSETS (not their overall skill, but the set of skills the have) differentiates Stephen Curry from Steve Nash or Mark Price?

There are point guards who have a post game and a lockdown defensive aspect; Curry does not have that. :yeshrug: Doesn't necessarily even mean they're better than him.
Yet out of those point guards who have a post game and lockdown defensive strings - which ones have an elite handle, elite shooting, elite scoring and elite playmaking ability too?

Curry may not have a skillset where he can do EVERYTHING that goes on in the game, but he probably has the best one, simply for the fact that this is the greatest period of PGs in history and he's the best one doing it. Never has the position been as rich with talent and ability; it's typically been a low-end role with players who simply just facilitate.
 
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Steph doesn't have the best skillset of all-time. What Steph has is a very good/great skillset, and ONE skill that is so exceptionally high that it elevates everything else. And he also utilizes his skillset to the highest level.

I mean, what about their actual SKILLSETS (not their overall skill, but the set of skills the have) differentiates Stephen Curry from Steve Nash or Mark Price?

There are point guards who have a post game and a lockdown defensive aspect; Curry does not have that. :yeshrug: Doesn't necessarily even mean they're better than him.

If he was just a great or even all time great shooter he wouldn't be what he is because we have never seen shooter dominate like this. His GOATness in regards to shooting and thusly his ability to dominate games separate him from guys like that despite the similar skill sets. That's why I always :camby: skillset or pure "insert ability here" discussions. All that matters is how you produce and impact the game. Steph is producing in an insane way and impacting the game in a manner that we haven't seen.
 
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If he was just a great or even all time great shooter he wouldn't be what he is because we have never seen shooter dominate like this. His GOATness in regards to shooting and thusly his ability to dominate games separate him from guys like that despite the similar skill sets. That's why I always :camby: skillset or pure "insert ability here" discussions. All that matters is how you produce and impact the game. Steph is producing in an insane way and impacting the game in a manner that we haven't seen.
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Yet out of those point guards who have a post game and lockdown defensive strings - which ones have an elite handle, elite shooting, elite scoring and elite playmaking ability too?

Curry may not have a skillset where he can do EVERYTHING that goes on in the game, but he probably has the best one, simply for the fact that this is the greatest period of PGs in history. Never has the position been as rich with talent and ability; it's typically been a low-end role with players who simply just facilitate.

I think this is a function of era and how the game has evolved. You got guys that can handle the ball and facilitate all over the court now, so you really don't need a guy under 6'3 who's main function is to handle the rock and get others involved. You got guys 6'7 who can do that and do the other stuff associated with their size. So smaller guys that can score are being given more of a chance and more freedom.
 
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Steph doesn't have the best skillset of all-time. What Steph has is a very good/great skillset, and ONE skill that is so exceptionally high that it elevates everything else. And he also utilizes his skillset to the highest level.

I mean, what about their actual SKILLSETS (not their overall skill, but the set of skills the have) differentiates Stephen Curry from Steve Nash or Mark Price?

There are point guards who have a post game and a lockdown defensive aspect; Curry does not have that. :yeshrug: Doesn't necessarily even mean they're better than him.
I was going to break it down more specifically like this but decided to go the troll route. Because when the majority of coli.com basketball fans hear the word skill the only thought goes towards dribbling and shooting...

So Steph is without question the most skilled shooter ever at the position and in the conversation of most skilled dribbler. But that's where it ends.

He's not a more skilled passer than Magic.

He's not a more skilled defender than Payton.

He's not a more skilled rebounder than Kidd.

He's not a more skilled finisher than Kyrie* and Westbrook

He's not a more skilled post player than his former coach.

He's not as skilled as a break starter or in transition as Rose or Wall..

Maybe @houston911 friends wanted to have a deeper conversation than the average Kobe Stan was capable of.

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I was going to break it down more specifically like this but decided to go the troll route. Because when the majority of coli.com basketball fans hear the word skill the only thought goes towards dribbling and shooting...

So Steph is without question the most skilled shooter ever at the position and in the conversation of most skilled dribbler. But that's where it ends.

He's not a more skilled passer than Magic.

He's not a more skilled defender than Payton.

He's not a more skilled rebounder than Kidd.

He's not a more skilled finisher than Kyrie* and Westbrook

He's not a more skilled post player than his former coach.

He's not as skilled as a break starter or in transition as Rose or Wall..

Maybe @houston911 friends wanted to have a deeper conversation than the average Kobe Stan was capable of.

:lolbron:
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Pennys skillset was better he could post up and finish with both hands,decent shooter,was a sick passer and could drop 30-40.He just got injured but skill wise he had more skills than curry
 
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I was going to break it down more specifically like this but decided to go the troll route. Because when the majority of coli.com basketball fans hear the word skill the only thought goes towards dribbling and shooting...

So Steph is without question the most skilled shooter ever at the position and in the conversation of most skilled dribbler. But that's where it ends.

He's not a more skilled passer than Magic.

He's not a more skilled defender than Payton.

He's not a more skilled rebounder than Kidd.

He's not a more skilled finisher than Kyrie* and Westbrook

He's not a more skilled post player than his former coach.

He's not as skilled as a break starter or in transition as Rose or Wall..


Maybe @houston911 friends wanted to have a deeper conversation than the average Kobe Stan was capable of.

:lolbron:

The problem with this is, you can use the same reasoning for those players you mentioned in areas they're not stronger at than the same players you mentioned.
 

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If he was just a great or even all time great shooter he wouldn't be what he is because we have never seen shooter dominate like this. His GOATness in regards to shooting and thusly his ability to dominate games separate him from guys like that despite the similar skill sets. That's why I always :camby: skillset or pure "insert ability here" discussions. All that matters is how you produce and impact the game. Steph is producing in an insane way and impacting the game in a manner that we haven't seen.

A man after my heart. No homo. :noah:

I think this is a function of era and how the game has evolved. You got guys that can handle the ball and facilitate all over the court now, so you really don't need a guy under 6'3 who's main function is the handle the rock and get others involved. You got guys 6'7 who can do that and do the other stuff associated with their size. So smaller guys that can score are being given more of a chance and more freedom.

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I was going to break it down more specifically like this but decided to go the troll route. Because when the majority of coli.com basketball fans hear the word skill the only thought goes towards dribbling and shooting...

So Steph is without question the most skilled shooter ever at the position and in the conversation of most skilled dribbler. But that's where it ends.

He's not a more skilled passer than Magic.

He's not a more skilled defender than Payton.

He's not a more skilled rebounder than Kidd.

He's not a more skilled finisher than Kyrie* and Westbrook

He's not a more skilled post player than his former coach.

He's not as skilled as a break starter or in transition as Rose or Wall..

Maybe @houston911 friends wanted to have a deeper conversation than the average Kobe Stan was capable of.

:lolbron:

Troll so much that you cant have a serious conversation, brehs.

Does a point guards post play impact the game as much as shooting ability? Im shocked you didnt bring up andre miller.

Never said or implied that steph curry is the best at EVERY category
 

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The problem with this is, you can use the same reasoning for those players you mentioned in areas they're not stronger at than the same players you mentioned.
Yeah I'm not saying Steph isn't or can't be potentially better than everyone I named.. I'm just saying when folks talk about skills it's usually on macro level...

There is no perfect PG. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses..
 

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I was going to break it down more specifically like this but decided to go the troll route. Because when the majority of coli.com basketball fans hear the word skill the only thought goes towards dribbling and shooting...

So Steph is without question the most skilled shooter ever at the position and in the conversation of most skilled dribbler. But that's where it ends.

He's not a more skilled passer than Magic.

He's not a more skilled defender than Payton.

He's not a more skilled rebounder than Kidd.

He's not a more skilled finisher than Kyrie* and Westbrook

He's not a more skilled post player than his former coach.

He's not as skilled as a break starter or in transition as Rose or Wall..

Maybe @houston911 friends wanted to have a deeper conversation than the average Kobe Stan was capable of.

:lolbron:

Westbrook is not a great finisher. People confuse ferocity and power with actually finishing. Westbrook has HORRIBLE finishing fundamentals and relatively hard touch around the rim. It's people like this that think Westbrook is a better finisher than 5'9 Isaiah Thomas

Curry has a much larger variety of finishes around the room and much softer touch. Plus, his finishing fundamentals and ability to instantly balance himself (On finishes or shooting) is elite.

He's easily comparable in transition to MVP Rose and Walll. His three point shooting, great finishing, insane vision, and creativity with passing makes him just as effective as Rose and Wall's sheer speed and ability to attack.
 
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