I REALLY Wish I Could Speak Like Stephan A. Smith

[PhonZhi]

but this thread is only about his oratory skills, not convinciblity...so I dont see hows thats irrelevant.

also I dont get why people think him not being conviceable is an indicator of him not being articulate.

sas is a dam good speaker. problem with him is that hes speaking his own opinions, which are quite often logically and factually flawed. and so are his arguments. im convinced that if he were to have someone elses ideas conveyed...someone else with a bigger brain....hed make a much better analyst.

no matter how good a speaker is, he isnt going to convince you if he says things you know for sure aren't true. so lets separate oratory skills from actual analysis of sports, which sas is quite poor at...

thanks bruh

 

[PhonZhi]

So SAS has never calmly argued his point? Yes he has his roll the eyes-scream fest-temper tantrum moments and they are frequent but he can switch it up and come calm and speak his point in a level tone. Don't front like he's all screams and nothing else. He's definitely has the gift of gab, whether its all or half bullshyt or not is besides the point. And the theatrics he and SKIP(real talk here) only help drive whatever they are saying home. these dudes are on tv for a reason. everybody can talk sports but if you don't have that extra umph! you're not reaching their level. We can definitely talk shyt about these dudes but they are like the NBA/NFL/MLB level of sports "journalism"-entertainment.

A preacher is not getting a mega church if he doesn't add some theatrics to his gift of gab. the same with a politician. He or she is not getting into any office without some flair and theatrics to go along with their passionate speeches on Hope and Change. And Politicians and preachers spit out the most bullshyt most of the time

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[Box Cutta]

I dont give a fukk what their job is, altho sas's job is certainly NOT to inform the damn public. it's irrelevant to this discussion.

this thread about is about his oratory skills, so stay on topic. nobody gives a shyt what you personally think of SAS. and your hate of him is blinding you and makes you unable to separate his oratory skills from everything else.

nikkas gonna whine about "stay on topic".....

You're right, his job isn't to inform anyone, his job is to push whatever bullshyt narrative ESPN execs want to shove down our fukking throats, because they think people are too fukking stupid to expect anything better. Judging from you, it seems that they are right about at least some people.

You're a fukking idiot. The dude is just a loud mouth, he doesn't have "oratory skills" unless oratory skills mean as little as being able to raise your voice above your "opponent". His platform allows him to talk shyt, unopposed, with very little regard for logic or nuance. Nuance and logic <--- These things actually matter to actual debaters, and people who really have a truly eloquent speaking style wield these tools to actually make convincing arguments. Outside of fukking ESPN, where he can't just yell at everyone, he's an above average speaker at best. Pull that "HOLD UP, HOLD UP, I LET YOU TALK I LET YOU TALK" shyt anywhere else and you'll be made a damn fool of.

And you can try to divorce content from style as much as you please, I'm not buying it. I expect more from these people, for as much money as they make, and for as much money as ESPN is costing me a a basic cable subscriber, I'm not gonna kiss some dudes ass for being one of the most protected "personalities" on television.

People like yourself are WHY we get so much horse shyt from ESPN and WHY the discourse remains so damn stale.

"OMG BRO, did you see SAS GO IN ON PRINCE JAMES LAST NIGHT?!?!?! LOLOLOLOLOL HE SLAYED HIM BRO!!"

First Take reminds me of Ren & Stimpy, or maybe Pinky & The Brain....SAS goes from calm and normal to annoying loudmouth in a heartbeat, and Skip says shyt so dumb you sometimes can't tell when it's real or when it's a troll.

its also hilarious that you say "y'all keep trying to compare these dudes to politicians" but it was YOU in the first place that mentioned "Bill O'Reilly, Rush, Olbermann, etc" was it not ?

They aren't politicians, dumbass. Since when has O'Reilly won office?

And I was comparing him to them because all four of these dudes get by on the same exact thing : Bluster and nothing else.

BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW ILLOGICAL AND STUPID YOUR ARGUMENT IS, JUST RAISE YOUR VOICE AND ACT UPSET SO THAT YOU SOUND "CONFIDENT" AND PEOPLE WILL THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE SUBJECT!!!

 

[yseJ]

lol at this nikka getting all mad and calling me all kinds of names and hurling insults in my rep funniest thing is because ive said his oratory skills are good you now try to pigeonhole me into something that couldnt be further from truth

listen here fool
I dont give a shyt about sas. i dont like him or his style. his arguments are quite often shyt, and I think I pointed it out. I dont watch first take, and I havent really watched much of espn in years besides games. you are barking up a wrong tree here doggie.

all ive said is his oratory skills are good. there are millions of nikkas out there who cant string a couple of phrases together. there is fukking emmitt smith out there who had a job on live fukking tv. sas clearly is gifted oratory-wise


your inability to logically separate oratory skills from logical analysis and personal feelings towards sas...leads me to believe you're the idiot here.

and the fact that you dont consider bill oreilly a gifted orator...regardless of his style or views...tells me you have severe problems being objective. if you view his or sas style of speaking as over the top yelling and nothing else...you need to remove some of that musk thats covering your eardrums. plain and fukking simple.

whats next ? hitler wasnt a good orator because he was yelling like crazy at the rallies ?

 

[yseJ]

and having good oratory skills doesnt mean youll be good at debating. some people bust off improv speeches but cant debate worth a shyt. some people comment play by play on tv/radio but cant debate for shyt

again, the whole point is that sas has good oratory skills, as do most people who do any talking role on tv. its a really simple point really.

sas plays his role well with his oratory skills, as does skip. you and I actually agree that the whole thing is a farce anyway...yet somehow you think just because its a farce, sas doesnt have good oratory skills. its the exact opposite. because if sas didnt have good oratory skills, he wouldnt have a fukking job with his logic and views. just like bill oreilly.