“I have never heard of a country that developed on AID” 👀

[The_Sheff]

There are different types of aid. There is aid where you ship people food, and there is aid where you help them build sustainable industry. One does a lot more in the long run.

 

[BaggerofTea]

pretty sure most high end countries have aid programs and their intelligence apparatuses intertwined.

 

[the bossman]

“African nations have received aid under different circumstances, often tied to poverty alleviation, infrastructure, and governance reforms. Aid to Africa has historically shifted from infrastructure-focused projects in the 1960s to poverty-focused programs in later decades. Unlike Japan’s postwar aid, African nations often face conditions such as structural adjustment programs emphasizing free-market policies and reduced government spending. These terms differ significantly from those applied to Japan’s recovery efforts.”

the aid given to African countries come with a whole lot of caveats and fukkery.

So the problem isn't really aid itself. It's the harmful conditions or agendas that can be attached to it depending on the country

 

[CoryMack]

read Walter Rodney's "How Europe Underdeveloped Africa" and he goes into how "aid" is used to cripple African countries.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

Now I know everybody is giving answers of successful countries built in aid. But in fairness, the aid given to African countries come with a whole lot of caveats and fukkery.

Then brehs ask why do people leave their country to get money.

Yeah… aside from Japan, Israel and the handful of other nations… are there many success stories?

So the problem isn't really aid itself. It's the harmful conditions or agendas that can be attached to it depending on the country

yep

The United States provides foreign aid to a vast number of countries. In fiscal year 2023, 173–180 countries received aid. Below is a list of notable recipients:
Countries Receiving the Most Aid
• Ukraine ($16.6B)
• Israel ($3.3B)
• Ethiopia ($2.2B)
• Afghanistan ($1.39B)
• Yemen ($1.38B)
• Egypt ($1.37B)
• Jordan ($1.19B)
• Nigeria ($1.15B)
• Somalia ($1.14B)
• South Sudan ($1.12B)

Other Countries Receiving Significant Aid
• Iraq, DR Congo, Kenya, Sudan, Syria, and Bangladesh (ranging from $500M–$1B).
• Countries in Latin America, Africa, and Asia, such as Colombia, Haiti, Mozambique, Tanzania, and Pakistan, also receive hundreds of millions annually.

In total, U.S. foreign aid spans nearly all recognized nations worldwide

 

[null]

they did not mention the WTO.

"soft loan" means it is free?

international services need rules, controls and codes of conduct like certain commodities have.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

To be fair, he did say HE never heard

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Aid is use to pimp countries. Ain’t shyt free in life. The man in that video is saying African countries better off staying independent than signing a record deal. I have no idea why posters are resisting the facts in that video

 

[Pressure]

Yall running the bootstraps argument remix?

 

[Canon]

South Korean, Japan, Israel, Egypt, Spain, Nigeria, most of South America.....


In 2025, in a world where AI is everywhere, you're purposely being ignorant when you say shyt like this.

quoting this for when some idiot rolls through this thread

 

[Seoul Gleou]

Read Dead Aid by Dambisa Moyo

In my opinion, Dambisa Moyo’s arguments make a compelling case against the traditional model of foreign aid to Africa. I agree that aid has often perpetuated dependency, fueled corruption, and distorted economies, rather than fostering sustainable development. The evidence she presents; such as the lack of significant progress in many African countries despite decades of aid, supports her critique. I also find her alternatives, like promoting trade, foreign investment, and access to capital markets, to be more empowering and practical solutions for long-term growth. Aid should be restructured to focus on transparency, accountability, and supporting local initiatives (i.e, microfinance).

 

[desjardins]

Aid is given in exchange of something
Korea, Japan, and to an extent Israel received aid in exchange for letting their countries basically become U.S military outposts
Not sure that makes sense for a lot of African countries so the U.S will require raw materials and natural resources which disincentivizes other forms of development and is prone to corruption

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

The Aid is done to hold a country by it's nuts. Get it to do the dirty stuff.

South Africa and it's army, for example having been rampaging African countries like Burundi and DRC on USA's "UN Orders"

Are you Rwandan? This is a lie.

South Africa’s soldiers are in DR Congo at the request of the Congolese government under a SADC peacekeeping mission, separate from the UN peacekeeping exercise.

There are no South African soldiers serving in Burundi.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Western Europe and Japan developed on aid.

Aid isn't the issue. It's the strings attached.

Part of my MA was in developmental economics. I’m aware. Someone else in this thread already mentioned Europe. Japan is a not so straightforward story.

It’s not necessarily the strings attached which are THE problem. It’s what the aid is being used for which slows down African development.

A significant proportion of Western aid to Africa is used for budgetary support and military assistance. However, Africans will tell you that their biggest hurdles in development come in the form of weak or non existent physical infrastructure like modernized freight railways, power plants, ports etc. Western aid stopped funding infrastructure projects in the 1970s.

A prime example is electricity. You cannot industrialize without a big base power supply and multiple grid systems set up using a mix of renewable and non-renewable energy. Outside of private investment and state owned investment from China and Russia, Africans are in need of that sort of capital. Western aid will fund a health clinic (not a terrible thing) but won’t fund construction of the power plants to ensure that clinic has power.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

@Secure Da Bag - a short word on Japan

Did you know that if Japanese economists listened to Western experts/aid advisors in the late 40s/50s, Japan’s export economy would just be rice, fish, and toys? Maybe some silver too.

I recommend you check out ‘Governing the Market’ by Robert Wade, about how state directed capitalism caused Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan to become prosperous.