I hate to say it but our boy Will Smith about to flop yet again this weekend

[Rapmastermind]

Nah I'd say Johnny is there too. When trasendence flopped. When Lone Ranger flopped. When mortecai flopped. There was a lot of ink spilled on what's wrong with Johnny depp and when will he start making good movies again etc etc. I don't know if we read the same writers but trust me breh, people have been shytting on Johnny and his mishaps for a couple years now. It's not as pronounced on this site but outside of it, definitely. I think here the disappointment with will comes from the roles he takes not the movie bombing. People want to be excited by his choices rather than being bored because In truth, what does him having a number one movie do for anyone here unless they're related to him? I really don't give a damn I just want to see him do movies that excite me and take some risks and go against type and he seems to be headed in that direction. But still I have no interest whatsoever in seeing this movie

Yeah but Johnny just really started having huge Box Office Hits over the last decade. Before that as we all know he worked on very artsy projects and it was more about his craft. He had hits here or there but it wasn't like he was opening #1 every single time like Tom or Will. Will and Tom have had Hit after Hit for a very long time. Don't get me wrong, I do think Johnny has a lot of pressure now cause he's had to many under performers If you look at Will's career. Every time he's went outside his zone, His Box Office dipped. It's interesting analyzing Will's Box Office starting with Bad Boys in 1995 which became his breakout hit movie to mainstream Audiences:


5/31/13 After Earth Sony $60,522,097 3,401 $27,520,040 3,401 16
5/25/12 MIB 3 Sony $179,020,854 4,248 $54,592,779 4,248 7
12/19/08 Seven Pounds Sony $69,951,824 2,758 $14,851,136 2,758 14
7/2/08 Hancock Sony $227,946,274 3,965 $62,603,879 3,965 4
12/14/07 I Am Legend WB $256,393,010 3,648 $77,211,321 3,606 2
12/15/06 The Pursuit of Happyness Sony $163,566,459 3,169 $26,541,709 2,852 8
2/11/05 Hitch Sony $179,495,555 3,575 $43,142,214 3,575 6
10/1/04 Shark Tale(Voice) DW $160,861,908 4,070 $47,604,606 4,016 9
7/16/04 I, Robot Fox $144,801,023 3,494 $52,179,887 3,420 10
7/18/03 Bad Boys II Sony $138,608,444 3,202 $46,522,560 3,186 11
7/3/02 Men in Black II Sony $190,418,803 3,641 $52,148,751 3,557 5
12/25/01 Ali Sony $58,203,105 2,521 $14,710,892 2,446 17
11/3/00 The Legend of Bagger Vance DW $30,919,168 2,162 $11,516,712 2,061 19
6/30/99 Wild Wild West WB $113,804,681 3,342 $27,687,484 3,342 12
11/20/98 Enemy of the State BV $111,549,836 2,517 $20,038,573 2,393 13
7/2/97 Men in Black Sony $250,690,539 3,180 $51,068,455 3,020 3
7/3/96 Independence Day Fox $306,169,268 2,977 $50,228,264 2,882 1
4/7/95 Bad Boys Sony $65,807,024 2,132 $15,523,358 2,132 15


18 movies in the last 20 years. Only 5 made less than 100 Million domestically. That's over 3.5 Billion domestically. Will is making History by the movie. "Focus" has a chance to be his 14th 100 Million Dollar film. Remember he's already grossed over 6.5 Billion at the Box Office Worldwide. Yep, A Black Male, Who started out as an Emcee/Rapper. 6 Billion at the Box Office.

 

[Uncle_Ruckus]

Reviews look pretty decent. I'ma check this one out.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Yeah but Johnny just really started having huge Box Office Hits over the last decade. Before that as we all know he worked on very artsy projects and it was more about his craft. He had hits here or there but it wasn't like he was opening #1 every single time like Tom or Will. Will and Tom have had Hit after Hit for a very long time. Don't get me wrong, I do think Johnny has a lot of pressure now cause he's had to many under performers If you look at Will's career. Every time he's went outside his zone, His Box Office dipped. It's interesting analyzing Will's Box Office starting with Bad Boys in 1995 which became his breakout hit movie to mainstream Audiences:


5/31/13 After Earth Sony $60,522,097 3,401 $27,520,040 3,401 16
5/25/12 MIB 3 Sony $179,020,854 4,248 $54,592,779 4,248 7
12/19/08 Seven Pounds Sony $69,951,824 2,758 $14,851,136 2,758 14
7/2/08 Hancock Sony $227,946,274 3,965 $62,603,879 3,965 4
12/14/07 I Am Legend WB $256,393,010 3,648 $77,211,321 3,606 2
12/15/06 The Pursuit of Happyness Sony $163,566,459 3,169 $26,541,709 2,852 8
2/11/05 Hitch Sony $179,495,555 3,575 $43,142,214 3,575 6
10/1/04 Shark Tale(Voice) DW $160,861,908 4,070 $47,604,606 4,016 9
7/16/04 I, Robot Fox $144,801,023 3,494 $52,179,887 3,420 10
7/18/03 Bad Boys II Sony $138,608,444 3,202 $46,522,560 3,186 11
7/3/02 Men in Black II Sony $190,418,803 3,641 $52,148,751 3,557 5
12/25/01 Ali Sony $58,203,105 2,521 $14,710,892 2,446 17
11/3/00 The Legend of Bagger Vance DW $30,919,168 2,162 $11,516,712 2,061 19
6/30/99 Wild Wild West WB $113,804,681 3,342 $27,687,484 3,342 12
11/20/98 Enemy of the State BV $111,549,836 2,517 $20,038,573 2,393 13
7/2/97 Men in Black Sony $250,690,539 3,180 $51,068,455 3,020 3
7/3/96 Independence Day Fox $306,169,268 2,977 $50,228,264 2,882 1
4/7/95 Bad Boys Sony $65,807,024 2,132 $15,523,358 2,132 15


18 movies in the last 20 years. Only 5 made less than 100 Million domestically. That's over 3.5 Billion domestically. Will is making History by the movie. "Focus" has a chance to be his 14th 100 Million Dollar film. Remember he's already grossed over 6.5 Billion at the Box Office Worldwide. Yep, A Black Male, Who started out as an Emcee/Rapper. 6 Billion at the Box Office.

Breh the reason people outside of this space kill Johnny more is because he's genuinely thought of as the best actor of his generation so its more disappointment. With will people seem bored

 

[Rapmastermind]

Breh the reason people outside of this space kill Johnny more is because he's genuinely thought of as the best actor of his generation so its more disappointment. With will people seem bored

That's cause they want Will to take more risk. Remember some wanted Will to do "Django", but I understood why he said no. But what people are really saying is Will needs to work with some different Directors. It seems Will hand picks his directors. Some are Big some aren't. He he hasn't worked with a lot of the Greats. I honestly don't even think Will views himself as one of the Best Actors. But he has grown as an Actor since "Fresh Prince". Johnny been great since "Nightmare on Elm St", 30 years ago. He's just an amazing actor. I think Johnny is rebelling doing what he wants even though it's under performing. I haven't seen "Transedence" or this last one. He did have a hit with "Into the Woods" but he was supporting in that.

 

[MartyMcFly]

That's cause they want Will to take more risk. Remember some wanted Will to do "Django", but I understood why he said no. But what people are really saying is Will needs to work with some different Directors. It seems Will hand picks his directors. Some are Big some aren't. He he hasn't worked with a lot of the Greats. I honestly don't even think Will views himself as one of the Best Actors. But he has grown as an Actor since "Fresh Prince". Johnny been great since "Nightmare on Elm St", 30 years ago. He's just an amazing actor. I think Johnny is rebelling doing what he wants even though it's under performing. I haven't seen "Transedence" or this last one. He did have a hit with "Into the Woods" but he was supporting in that.

I wanted Will to do Django and disagreed with his reasons for not doing it but that's besides the point; you're right, he should take more risks and do things outside of the will smith box which is why the two projects he has lined up after this one interest me and this one just doesn't. Will clearly wants to be in that category of the best actors today because if not, he wouldn't do movies like Ali or Seven Pounds or Pursuit of happyness etc, movies where he can contend for oscars and really establish that he has chops and he does; Will is a great actor but he normally does saddle himself with roles or movies that aren't really pushing anything and he should stop handpicking his directors because those directors won't push for anything great to come out of him. There's a reason DiCaprio and Scorsese work or DeNiro and Scorsese work and it's because he pushes to get all time great performances out of them and out of his actors.

Johnny isn't rebelling against anything, he's just doing what he wants to do because he knows he can do a pirates of the caribbean movie and be set for life continuously. He's picking things that interest him even if they're not necessarily good or a hit and that's cool but at the same time, he's also become very routine. Like a role like Mortecai is a typical Depp role these days where he keeps trying to redo Jack Sparrow over and over just in different shades and again, people seem bored with it. The last time I was excited for a Johnny Depp movie was Public Enemies and that wasn't great by any means although he was great in it but that was back in 2009

 

[Dr. Acula]

I wish him luck simply for being a brother in hollywood. But I'm not going to lie...I have no interest in this movie I'm not into heist movies like that anyways. I didn't see any of the ocean 11's movies and the like

 

[Rapmastermind]

I wish him luck simply for being a brother in hollywood. But I'm not going to lie...I have no interest in this movie I'm not into heist movies like that anyways. I didn't see any of the ocean 11's movies and the like

Heist movies are cool when the team is cool:

 

[Dr. Acula]

Heist movies are cool when the team is cool:

Alright I take it back. Heat and inside man are great. Haven't see ronin. Still I'm just not interested in this movie unless the reviews are pretty damn good, then I might make my way to the theater. We'll have to see

 

[Rapmastermind]

Alright I take it back. Heat and inside man are great. Haven't see ronin

Your missing out. Watch it as soon as you can. Amazing cast with Deniro and Jean Reno. Has one of the illest car chases ever in it.

 

[Rapmastermind]

I don't take Rotten Tomatoes as the gospel but it's at 50% so far:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/focus_2014/

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

I have a couple of theater gift cards I've been wanting to use. I might end up checking this out this weekend.

 

[kp404]

this part:


In the OT levels, Hubbard explains how to reverse the effects of past-life trauma patterns that supposedly extend millions of years into the past.[133] Among these advanced teachings is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as the tyrant ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy". According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and detonated hydrogen bombs in the volcanoes. The thetans then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to do this today. Scientologists at advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating body thetans and neutralizing their ill effects.[134]



get your religion from science fiction novelists brehs

Breh, this is a CLASSIC time on the coli...We got coli brehs fukking with Xenu!!!! We got Xenu worshipping mothafukkas on the coli, breh :jayhaha:

@Captain you can call us ignorant all you want, but you need to take down your punk ass L. Ron Hubbard Poster so you can look in the mirror and see, you are gonna be real fukking disappointed when you take that final breath :babyhaha:

Xenu :deadpeter:

 

[MartyMcFly]

Breh, this is a CLASSIC time on the coli...We got coli brehs fukking with Xenu!!!! We got Xenu worshipping mothafukkas on the coli, breh :jayhaha:

@Captain you can call us ignorant all you want, but you need to take down your punk ass L. Ron Hubbard Poster so you can look in the mirror and see, you are gonna be real fukking disappointed when you take that final breath :babyhaha:

Xenu :deadpeter:

Breh I'm surprised you aren't putting your foot on Will's neck right now

 

[kp404]

Breh I'm surprised you aren't putting your foot on Will's neck right now

This Focus movie will do it for me

And I really like Will Smith and I think he can act circles around the majority of Hollywood, but I think like Travolta, his scientology mind and how the religion controls him makes him take these shytty sci-fi and romance movies and keeps him from actually showcasing his talent.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Some of the reviews make it sound like a underwhelming type flick. Nothing to really brag about. Idk.