I had an out of body experience while sleeping the other night.

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Just cause u have a brain doesn’t necessarily lead to thought, really this opinion u have on this subject comes from you imagination
what you mean like a braindead person with no neural activity or something¿

you know someone thinking without a brain¿

if imagination is not coming from the brain where is it coming from¿ ha

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And understanding DNA/epigenetics whos to even say your "imagination" is yours to begin with. Your thoughts and "innovations" could easily be "old" or from a past earth cycle. Far as we know,God could create the earth,run himself(us) through a simulator. Having us collect data as algorithms. Then destroy it all, put new humans through a simulator giving you the data from the past cycle(what we would consider imagination). Have the new humans collect the data through the senses like algorithms. So on and so forth if you catch my drift:respect:



People saying the earth is billions of years old. When in REALITY,God could create new cycles every 100 years or so accross various "realities"/ timelines. Being that nobody lives past that,whos to say otherwise? Or the earth could be old,but man and animals get swapped constantly. What would be the point of this excercise? Ill leave you all to draw your own conclusions. All Ill say is does this not resemble life and nature? Resistence and harsh environments that create adaption and strength? Id say the bible even somewhat hints at this if you are a religious person.
all that sounds fantastic

now test it prove it & let me know what can be done as far as it pertains to living life

too much quack smoke we need to clear it all up ha

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if imagination is not coming from the brain where is it coming from¿ ha

Well, thats pretty much the entire point. Anyone who is a true creative will attest that their best ideas spring into their awareness fully formed with no effort or thinking:



You said before that you were quite creative in response to my question and that you didn't fear death but so many comments from you in this thread seem to send the impression of the opposite. The amount of faith you have in science (which is in the middle of replication crisis as people are making up whatever they wish with no factual basis) is telling because its pretty much a religion for modern people who dare not question its tenets as they hold it in such esteem as its words underpin their existence.

Imagination doesn't come from the brain because it doesn't generate consciousness, it simply modulates it.



The brain can't feel pain so they experimented by chopping the top off peoples domes and applying current and suddenly people were remembering old things, seeing different visions etc... which adds credence to what I said as does this experiment:



There is no free will and this just adds more weight to the fact that your senses are world building based on illusions that you then buy into:



Even when you know its a trick. How can you proclaim to be all about the science and yet hand wave it away when it presents an image at odds with what you expect? Riddle me this...

now test it prove it & let me know what can be done as far as it pertains to living life

Enough BS, feel free to put me to the test. I don't know you beyond this but I'm willing to bet my Coli membership that if you give me your exact time, date and location of birth I'll send you a script of your life and psychological makeup as well based on the science I previously mentioned.

Lets see what kicks...
 

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I've been able to use sleep paralysis as a way to travel to alternate universes. It's pretty crazy knowing you're not awake but being able to feel everything around you. Your footsteps have impact. If you pick up something it has weight.

In one universe I my family was wealthy and lived in a highrise in a forested version of Houston. In another I had two "Coli babies" but the brehette was different. She also knew what I was doing and hid me under the bed when the "real" Liggins came home. Holding my son was an intense experience. This was prior to my daughter being conceived. In another I was with my deceased ex Princess and we had children but lived in some anachronistic period gumbo of like the 80s and 00s mixed together. She also knew what I was doing and told me don't go exploring because if I ever ran into myself the results would not be good.

I've always had sleep paralysis and I have it quite often. Now I look forward to it so much that when I feel it coming on the excitement can cancel it out if I'm not careful. Also if I'm not able to project myself into another universe I'll get the "classic" version of SP which is still very much no bueno.

On some level I'm pretty sure this is something I should not be doing but there is a reason I do it and I will continue to do it until I can't anymore. The most recent times I ended up as a Liggins who had a leg amputated and as a toddler Liggins.
 

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shieet i had a life and death experience just last saturday. I did a 12 hour shift overnight and went to sleep. Woke up at about 3:50 and was
So fatigued and exhausted i banged the back
Of my head on the kitchen cabinet twice and fell to my knees. It was a bright flash and then as my vision came back to me the only thing i could control was my breathing but that felt like i was lifting 200lbs with every breath. I was conscious but not responding to my girl or kids even tho i could see them around me crying.

Now what OP was saying about demons and spirits around us. It felt like i was talking to myself saying its ok to let go and i had a good life even tho im only 41. Every time i agreed with “my voice” it got harder to breathe until i figured out it wasnt me talking and started arguing with “myself” like fukk that this aint my last day on earth or the last time i see my family. Then my voice started asking me trick questions trying to confuse me. “IT”
Even tried to convince me that i was really my grandfather who passed on sunday 10 years ago but i replied “its saturday and 2023 not 2013”


It felt like i was drowning now so the only thing that brought me back was remembering good times with my girl and kids. I finally was able to scream out “this isnt the last thing i want to see”!! I slowly started getting feeling back to my arms first to hug my wife then slowly to the rest of my body. The last thing it said to me was to just “turn it off”
As if my life was a video game or movie that ended but i said hell no. Still trying to process that shyt but if your not at a good place mentally in your life or anchored to something happy here in the living world something is going to tempt u to let go

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Well, thats pretty much the entire point. Anyone who is a true creative will attest that their best ideas spring into their awareness fully formed with no effort or thinking:



You said before that you were quite creative in response to my question and that you didn't fear death but so many comments from you in this thread seem to send the impression of the opposite. The amount of faith you have in science (which is in the middle of replication crisis as people are making up whatever they wish with no factual basis) is telling because its pretty much a religion for modern people who dare not question its tenets as they hold it in such esteem as its words underpin their existence.

Imagination doesn't come from the brain because it doesn't generate consciousness, it simply modulates it.



The brain can't feel pain so they experimented by chopping the top off peoples domes and applying current and suddenly people were remembering old things, seeing different visions etc... which adds credence to what I said as does this experiment:



There is no free will and this just adds more weight to the fact that your senses are world building based on illusions that you then buy into:



Even when you know its a trick. How can you proclaim to be all about the science and yet hand wave it away when it presents an image at odds with what you expect? Riddle me this...



Enough BS, feel free to put me to the test. I don't know you beyond this but I'm willing to bet my Coli membership that if you give me your exact time, date and location of birth I'll send you a script of your life and psychological makeup as well based on the science I previously mentioned.

Lets see what kicks...

i place my confidence in what proves to be most constant

i nowhere claim that science is infallible the whole point is to find what stands up to the critiques

not to settle comfortably in whatever first floats into your imagination or to stand bullheaded behind it even when real life is showing you you are wrong

you are taking the fact that there is no scientific explanation for everything as space for anything you imagine to be reality

& i am saying theories are fine i simply need it to be proven out

whether superstitious or just plain untrusting i will not be playing astrological guess who with strangers over the Internet ha

you consider astrological divination to be science¿

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Once again your own words contradict yourself but thats OK, enjoy your dissonance because you obviously can't see whats obvious.

I never said I'd be using astrology but did state it is a science because, in my experience, its exceeding accurate and why I call it the programming language of the Game we're playing because it is just this, at its most fundamental level:

science

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  1. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.

I knew before dropping the bet you'd never accept anyway.
 

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shieet i had a life and death experience just last saturday. I did a 12 hour shift overnight and went to sleep. Woke up at about 3:50 and was
So fatigued and exhausted i banged the back
Of my head on the kitchen cabinet twice and fell to my knees. It was a bright flash and then as my vision came back to me the only thing i could control was my breathing but that felt like i was lifting 200lbs with every breath. I was conscious but not responding to my girl or kids even tho i could see them around me crying.

Now what OP was saying about demons and spirits around us. It felt like i was talking to myself saying its ok to let go and i had a good life even tho im only 41. Every time i agreed with “my voice” it got harder to breathe until i figured out it wasnt me talking and started arguing with “myself” like fukk that this aint my last day on earth or the last time i see my family. Then my voice started asking me trick questions trying to confuse me. “IT”
Even tried to convince me that i was really my grandfather who passed on sunday 10 years ago but i replied “its saturday and 2023 not 2013”


It felt like i was drowning now so the only thing that brought me back was remembering good times with my girl and kids. I finally was able to scream out “this isnt the last thing i want to see”!! I slowly started getting feeling back to my arms first to hug my wife then slowly to the rest of my body. The last thing it said to me was to just “turn it off”
As if my life was a video game or movie that ended but i said hell no. Still trying to process that shyt but if your not at a good place mentally in your life or anchored to something happy here in the living world something is going to tempt u to let go

:mjcry:
I’m glad you still here breh. :salute:
 

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shieet i had a life and death experience just last saturday. I did a 12 hour shift overnight and went to sleep. Woke up at about 3:50 and was
So fatigued and exhausted i banged the back
Of my head on the kitchen cabinet twice and fell to my knees. It was a bright flash and then as my vision came back to me the only thing i could control was my breathing but that felt like i was lifting 200lbs with every breath. I was conscious but not responding to my girl or kids even tho i could see them around me crying.

Now what OP was saying about demons and spirits around us. It felt like i was talking to myself saying its ok to let go and i had a good life even tho im only 41. Every time i agreed with “my voice” it got harder to breathe until i figured out it wasnt me talking and started arguing with “myself” like fukk that this aint my last day on earth or the last time i see my family. Then my voice started asking me trick questions trying to confuse me. “IT”
Even tried to convince me that i was really my grandfather who passed on sunday 10 years ago but i replied “its saturday and 2023 not 2013”


It felt like i was drowning now so the only thing that brought me back was remembering good times with my girl and kids. I finally was able to scream out “this isnt the last thing i want to see”!! I slowly started getting feeling back to my arms first to hug my wife then slowly to the rest of my body. The last thing it said to me was to just “turn it off”
As if my life was a video game or movie that ended but i said hell no. Still trying to process that shyt but if your not at a good place mentally in your life or anchored to something happy here in the living world something is going to tempt u to let go

:mjcry:

The experience is pretty wild, isn't it? Once you've integrated it though life is literally never the same again because you know for certain you are not the flesh but something else that animates it. The heavy weight thing is also interesting because it feels like you are actually the impulses running through the nerves and thus the weight is immense in comparison to what you usually expect when processing from the usual mental level.

Did it feel like a picture that fades in with the outlines and details popping in or, better yet, like a song where first the bass kicks then then percussion and instruments one by one before finally the vocals that you'd been singing for a lifetime without truly realizing? It does take a minute to feel "like your old self" but I don't think you truly are ever again from that moment onward as you've been ripped from the foundation of existence and thus everything is different.

Sensing the invisible presences (and their intent) which is all around us is only the beginning really because as time goes by you start clicking things that were never hidden but are also obvious and yet most are oblivious to the subtle influence of them. Maybe the schizos are onto something, yes? Welcome to higher dimensional perception. Enjoy your trip.
 

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The experience is pretty wild, isn't it? Once you've integrated it though life is literally never the same again because you know for certain you are not the flesh but something else that animates it. The heavy weight thing is also interesting because it feels like you are actually the impulses running through the nerves and thus the weight is immense in comparison to what you usually expect when processing from the usual mental level.

Did it feel like a picture that fades in with the outlines and details popping in or, better yet, like a song where first the bass kicks then then percussion and instruments one by one before finally the vocals that you'd been singing for a lifetime without truly realizing? It does take a minute to feel "like your old self" but I don't think you truly are ever again from that moment onward as you've been ripped from the foundation of existence and thus everything is different.

Sensing the invisible presences (and their intent) which is all around us is only the beginning really because as time goes by you start clicking things that were never hidden but are also obvious and yet most are oblivious to the subtle influence of them. Maybe the schizos are onto something, yes? Welcome to higher dimensional perception. Enjoy your trip.

It felt like my eyes were just a window looking at the world. Like a big Imax screen while my consciousness or soul depending on what u believe was holding on by a thread. Like i couldnt see it but i was all the way out of my body only holding on through my breathing. I never saw spirits but i was always heightened since a child to peoples energy. Like i could feel good and bad intentions in people. I would say im an empath because i cant be around miserable people for long or ill fall into that depression cause i will absorb all that negativity from them.

Since that day tho my senses feel hightened like my breaths are deeper and i can almost feel the sun and wind around me. Its like being stuffy all your life then u blow your nose and realized how sick u were
 

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Since that day tho my senses feel hightened like my breaths are deeper and i can almost feel the sun and wind around me. Its like being stuffy all your life then u blow your nose and realized how sick u were

Thats pretty much it. People are walking around disconnected and sensing life with the directness of a welders mitt in comparison. Wildest thing is they class this as normal and don't question the paradigm they inherited from emotionally dead parents that made them just like them.

I truly feel like I'm alone in my own zone in that respect because everyone else is walking around with the same type of operating system (and expectations this brings on what is and isn't possible) and I've hacked the matrix. We are far more powerful and capable than most suspect and this is why it takes a nation of billions to hold you back.

On the practical tip spend as much time as you can with your flesh directly connected to the planet, earthing is important. Go for a walk around sunrise and again at sunset and push the pen whenever the inspiration kicks to get what is inside out and thus render it subjective as these three will help reorient your awareness in this land of the living dead. After that not even the skies the limit because its quite obvious its all in your head and this entire realm is a product of your imagination ergo there are no strangers or enemies, only friends and teachers.
 

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Once again your own words contradict yourself but thats OK, enjoy your dissonance because you obviously can't see whats obvious.

I never said I'd be using astrology but did state it is a science because, in my experience, its exceeding accurate and why I call it the programming language of the Game we're playing because it is just this, at its most fundamental level:

science

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noun

  1. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.

I knew before dropping the bet you'd never accept anyway.
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it really should be called something else

it's all in your mind

a in your mind experience¿

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I hear all that and the mind is definitely a very powerful thing to shape your own reality. Can’t focus too much on spookism.

Explain this though, from my OBE:

During sleep paralysis I struggled and eventually stood up and felt heavy/exhausted. I look at the bed and see my body is still lying there. I’m in full control with awareness and think “yerrrp this is it, I’m dead or something now lol :damn::ehh::pachaha::sadcam:


My brother is on vacation visiting, in another part of the crib. I move that way in an attempt to get help/signal someone. When I get to him I try to communicate but he clearly can’t see/hear me.(Can’t remember if I could actually speak). I see that he is on a video call and showing some chick his surroundings while talking to her and hear the conversation he is having. He’s also playing a song for her and they’re talking about it. I move back across the crib and up the stairs to my bedroom/body. At that point I see this shadow hat creature approaching my body with evil intent, when it sees me (out of body me) it gets shocked and runs off.

I lie back into my body (feeling exhausted) and then wake up wake up as soon as I do.

Now awake, I go to my brother to tell him about my experience, in shock. Get this though, I relay everything I saw him do and ask if that really happened and he confirms it all, the specific details. How can that be explained? So everything else about the experience must’ve been real too and not just a lucid dream?

I still don’t think he believed me even though I described the girl on the video call etc in detail. He did have a look of shock/confusion that seemed like “were you spying on me or something” and maybe also from how spooked I was. (No pun). I don’t know what he thought but I just could sense that he didn’t fully believe me. We’re just normal people living a normal life after all lol.

Next day I freakishly nearly died but survived miraculously, I think he believed then from what I remember about our conversation in hospital.

For some reason we’ve never spoken about it since. Like I said earlier in the thread, just brushed it off as with everything else and kept life moving.

This could all also be made up for the internet :mjgrin:
 
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