I don’t support ANY immigration to the US at this point. ZERO exceptions. - Tariq Nasheed

[audemarzz]

@Father show me where MLK made anti immigrant arguments. I’m willing to be wrong. Show me where did what you said he did. Have some integrity.

Show me something where he said he was pro open borders, I already provided proof, you have to use context clues and inference to understand. Now it's your turn.

 

[Consigliere]

His wife and son did + he supported a mexican workers movement that was vehemently anti immigrant.
#BOATSISSINKING

Oh so you were just making shyt up.

 

[Consigliere]

Show me something where he said he was pro open borders, I already provided proof, you have to use context clues and inference to understand. Now it's your turn.

No thank you.
I don’t think this would a good use of my time.

Lol.

 

[audemarzz]

You can't find anything RELATED to him supporting mass immigration and open borders but I found statements from HIS WIFE AND SON that confirm otherwise
@Consigliere
Mass immigration wasn't that serious during his lifetime.
In my search: Found about 100+ different pro immigrant orgs trying to force parallels between civil rights and "amigo/african/island/chinese" rights.

 

[audemarzz]

Oh so you were just making shyt up.

Nope.

 

[audemarzz]

No thank you.
I don’t think this would a good use of my time.

Lol.

because YOU can't find anything. I already found his wife and speech writer paralleling my opinion.
The individual he supported also shared that opinion.
"bubbbbut you lied" Nah, these orgs forcing parallels are liars.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Loud and wrong running off bad information from discredited people. It's okay, fakkit.
"nothing you're saying here matters"
Mattered enough for you to disregard the original sources of your info, goofy ass fakkit.
PS: fakkit.

Yea, you're super mad.

The information is good. You ignored my other post on the last page because you're not man enough to face it and admit you've been misled. Again, I looked it all up on my own.

PS:

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

 

[Consigliere]

You can't find anything RELATED to him supporting mass immigration and open borders but I found statements from HIS WIFE AND SON that confirm otherwise
@Consigliere
Mass immigration wasn't that serious during his lifetime.
In my search: Found about 100+ different pro immigrant orgs trying to force parallels between civil rights and "amigo/african/island/chinese" rights.

I never made any arguments about what his position was on immigration you big dope.

You are the one who is trying to use MLK as an appeal to authority… but that was just lies.

All you’ve done is further my point about people protecting WS by using appeals to pro-Blackness.

Come back when you can do better.

Maybe get some talking points from your YouTube handlers or read a book or something.

 

[69 others]

She said what she said. As I recall, the bulk of black immigrants came during that exact period. I can look for receipts if you need them.

Im from Harlem, that's when "Africans" came. Senegalese, to be exact. That's a whole story unto itself. I was there, but we didn't see it for what it was at the time. We're pan africanist generally.


Where your people from?

Yea but what she said does not mean she is against immigration. Don't know about Africans but Caribbean immigrants started coming here in large number from the 40's and the rate really ramped up in the late 70's to 2000's. The majority of them were legal.

Listen i get the frustration in the AA community. I get the frustration in the global black community. But immigration whether it's immigrants in America, Chinese in Africa or the Carribean is not the source of our problems. Even if it were global trade and immigration is not going anywhere. No one is going to slow that down cause we can't compete. Either we get honest about our real issues and try and solve them or keep getting ran over by other groups.

The reason why people like Tariq are dangerous is that:
1) They mislead people as to what their real issues are. So they can't even start to solve them.
2) They create armchair or internet activists: people who buy a DVD, send money a few dollars to a go-fundme, or talk some shyt on the internet and then pat themselves on the back thinking they did something.

 

[Illuminatos]

You nikkas mentioning Tariq's "grifting" over Haitians. Like there arent NonADOS who do the same to us.

Just to return the favor lets use a Haitian,
One of the notorious ones being Q who made Worldstar who exploited ADOS people.

nikka what?
Q was an American born and raised in Queens. “Exploited ADOS people” If anything all that ratchet shyt he built Worldstar off was shyt he grew up around. It’s not even remotely the same cause Tariq is not Haitian nor was he from Haiti.

 

[Low End Derrick]

 

[Starman]

Anti-immigration arguments in this country are essentially pro-WS arguments in disguise.

Since the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965 immigration and America has become much less White. Opposing immigration therefore is in effect opposing/slowing the browning/yellowing/blackening of America. I woudn't say that's a white supremacist position necessarily, however.

I’m extra wary of anyone trying to head off the coming demographic change in this country. Especially when it’s done under the guise of being a pro-Black position.

I don't think the demographic change you're speaking about can be headed off. But I will say, I don't think it's good for the decedents of slaves brought to these shores.

In case you live under a rock, regressive white folk are worried about ‘the great replacement’ and here y’all go right on time, parroting them.

Politics makes strange bedfellows. The browning (and other coloring) of America isn't seen as a positive for by all African Americans. But we do agree, it's happening.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Especially @Hiphoplives4eva
Always high capping about that bread.

that nikka be lying like a muthafukka

whole thread on here of his lies getting exposed.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/hiphoplives4eva-has-an-anti-ados-male-female-burner-account.818534/

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

here's his WIFE'S LETTER that you ignored, fakkit
https://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/king-letter.pdf

Martin Luther King & Immigration: Clarence Jones Imagines What MLK Would Say | National Review (ignore the source) :

Before he died, King had been a big backer of Cesar Chavez, the late-Sixties farmworkers’ organizer and one of the earliest campaigners against open borders. Right after King’s death, Reverend Ralph Abernathy, his replacement as head of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, marched with Chavez in a protest against illegal immigration over its suppressive effects on wages and its weakening of unions. According to Jones, King “would have agreed with” Chavez’s attacks on, what Jones calls our “wink-wink-nudge-nudge open border,” which “allows countless numbers of illegal immigrants to flood across and either take or undermine jobs done by Americans, especially brown and black Americans.” This shouldn’t be surprising, at least to those who know their labor and civil-rights history. The desirability of keeping cheap foreign labor out of the black labor market was a common refrain among King’s forebears, such as Booker T. Washington, Frederick Douglass, and W.E.B. Du Bois.

Wait. You're posing stuff from The Center for Immigration Studies *and* The National Review? They're literally white supremacists and you guys are co-opting their misleading bullshyt.

Holy hell, no wonder you're in denial about Yvette.

Center for Immigration Studies

Founded in 1985 by John Tanton, the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) has gone on to become the go-to think tank for the anti-immigrant movement with its reports and staffers often cited by media and anti-immigrant politicians. CIS’s much-touted tagline is “low immigration, pro-immigrant,” but the organization has a decades-long history of circulating racist writers, while also associating with white nationalists.

CIS reports have been widely criticized and debunked by groups such as the Immigration Policy Center and the CATO Institute. Alex Nowasteh, an Immigration Policy Analyst at CATO said in early 2017, "Oh, I'm convinced that [CIS executive director Mark Krikorian is] wrong about all the facts and issues. They're wrong about the impact of immigrants on the U.S. economy and on U.S. society.” Speaking about CIS to Univision in August of 2017, Illinois Rep. Luis Gutierrez stated, "Their research is always questionable because they torture the data to make it arrive at the conclusion they desire, which is that immigrants are criminals and a burden on the U.S. and our economy. It is the worst kind of deception, but politicians, the conservative media and some Americans eat it up because it always looks somewhat legitimate at first glance.” CIS has also defended the usage of “anchor babies” and released a report on “terror babies,” popular concepts among the nativist movement.

While capable of appearing as a sober-minded policy analyst in some settings, longtime CIS executive director Mark Krikorian’s contributions to the immigration policy debate rarely rise above petulant commentary dashed with extremist statements. Often, these statements are highly revealing.

At his perch at the National Review and on Twitter Krikorian has asked “How many rapists & drug-dealers are the anti-deportation radicals protecting?” and argued that Mexico’s “weakness and backwardness has been deeply harmful to the United States.” Krikorian has called Mexican-American journalist Jorge Ramos a “white-Hispanic ethnic hustler” and riffed that if the U.S. was a police state, as Chelsea Manning claimed, then “this mentally ill traitor would have been dumped in a shallow grave years ago.” In one exchange on Twitter, Krikorian tried to whitewash the role eugenicists played in the 1924 Immigration Act only to stop responding when Harry H. Laughlin’s role in advancing the legislation was mentioned. Laughlin was the most prominent eugenics advocate prior to WWII and went on to co-found the racist pseudoscience promoting Pioneer Fund, which Tanton had close ties to through the 90s.

More recently, CIS has been in the headlines for its connections to Trump Administration adviser Stephen Miller, a man who in college collaborated with white nationalist Richard Spencer to bring another white nationalist, Peter Brimelow, onto campus for a debate on immigration. Miller has been instrumental in pushing for anti-immigrant policies in the Trump White House and has regularly drawn from CIS. In early 2017, Miller made the rounds on national media defending the Trump administration’s Muslim ban by citing the CIS. “First of all, 72 individuals, according to the Center for Immigration Studies, have been implicated in terroristic activity in the United States who hail from those seven nations, point one,” Miller said on NBC’s Meet the Press. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post debunked the talking point, which collapsed several categories of crimes related to terrorism to reach a higher number, and awarded it “Three Pinocchios.”