I Beat The Police Today In Court And They Gonna Postpone The Trial

Carter G. Hoodson

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Forget that, it's either a criminal or civil matter? It cannot be both. If it's a crime to play loud music, ask them who's the injured party? In common law, in order for a crime to exist, there must be something called Corpus delicti. And if it's a civil matter, produce the contract? The judge will look at you like :leon: and dismiss it. And you must present the judges and officers (agent) oath of office into the record since they swore to abide by the constitution. Statutes, codes and ordinances do not trump constitutional law. All these municipalities which are private corporations act in a inferior capacity to swindle funds from you. That's why they refuse to teach civics and law in the school system.
 

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Forget that, it's either a criminal or civil matter? It cannot be both. If it's a crime to play loud music, ask them who's the injured party? In common law, in order for a crime to exist, there must be something called Corpus delicti. And if it's a civil matter, produce the contract? The judge will look at you like :leon: and dismiss it. And you must present the judges and officers (agent) oath of office into the record since they swore to abide by the constitution. Statutes, codes and ordinances do not trump constitutional law. All these municipalities which are private corporations act in a inferior capacity to swindle funds from you. That's why they refuse to teach civics and law in the school system.




Well we all dont have rich jewish lawyers handling our cases :mjpls:





to true :heh:


try any of that fast talking law and order shyt in your local courtroom if you want to

they just gonna look at you like :beli: do you have anyone representing you?
 
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yo im kinda in a similar situation
this is gonna be my first time in court, i got a ticket for failure to stop, but there wasn't s top sign on the street where i got pulled over...

anyone got any tips or insight on how this goes down
Go to where the ticket was given and take multiple photos of the intersection that would convince a person there was no stop sign. If it's there but you didn't see it the other day, you are going to have the take the L.
 

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In Florida (well Tampa area) they banned the sound ordinance and we can bump as loud as we can. I looked up GA for the homie, and ... they still have sound laws. Stupid law
 

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In Florida (well Tampa area) they banned the sound ordinance and we can bump as loud as we can. I looked up GA for the homie, and ... they still have sound laws. Stupid law
They've got it in Alabama too. I've had multiple friends get sound tickets in Auburn.

Weird thing is, your exhaust can be loud as fukk and the cop won't even look at you. My car was obnoxious and the cops would be like :manny:.
 

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In Traffic court those pigs be lying, if u live new York city, u would those mfs with a Passion. There is a certain day in the month where the nypd hands out tickets to fill a quota, u will get pulled over for any random bullshyt. When u go and fight the tickets, those cops lie and the independent arbitrator (don't call those mfs judges) believes the cops when I have evidence they are lying and the cop doesn't have shyt ...... :birdman:

Yo, last week I was in the city and got a seatbelt ticket from a cop on FOOT ! this muthafukka was standing at the intersection of 33rd and 7th ave just stopping people at the red light. fukkin $130 !! :damn: I go to pay that shyt online today, and I get a message talkin bout they have inputed the ticket in the system yet, from 10 days ago. fukk those faggits if they think I'm gonna pay any late fee after the 15 days.
 
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that seat belt and loud music shyt is just a reason to violate yo' 4th amendment rights...i had a dude stop me for not wearing a seat belt when i had one on...this muhfukka was me behind in the right lane,,turned his lights on and got behind me in the left lane...i pulled into the taco bell lot...

cop: why you not wearing a seat belt?
me: :childplease: *shows the cop im wearing the belt*
cop: you didnt have it on a minute ago
me: :stopitslime: i had it on the whole time


he gon try to say i wasnt wearing the seat belt correctly:rudy:and tried to act like he was doing me a favor then threatened me with a court appearance...i said ahiight to some shyt he was sayin' then went on 'bout my business...
 
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Forget that, it's either a criminal or civil matter? It cannot be both. If it's a crime to play loud music, ask them who's the injured party? In common law, in order for a crime to exist, there must be something called Corpus delicti. And if it's a civil matter, produce the contract? The judge will look at you like :leon: and dismiss it. And you must present the judges and officers (agent) oath of office into the record since they swore to abide by the constitution. Statutes, codes and ordinances do not trump constitutional law. All these municipalities which are private corporations act in a inferior capacity to swindle funds from you. That's why they refuse to teach civics and law in the school system.

The police officer didn't even have his mic on him, when he was giving me the ticket and everything. This guy is too unprofessional. Gonna say he has proof with video, and we watch the video and it made him look like a total dumbass.
 

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Forget that, it's either a criminal or civil matter? It cannot be both.
That's true.

If it's a crime to play loud music, ask them who's the injured party?
Anyone who doesn't want to listen to someone else's music that is at a high volume. So here, we are assuming white people don't want to hear loud "rap" music. But, this can apply to other things like the redneck cranking his "country" music from his pickup truck's stereo. It goes both ways. What if your neighbor decides to crank a recording of Tuvan throat singing from his 1000 watt power amp DJ system at 7 AM on a Saturday morning and he lives next door to you? Or what if he just mows his lawn at 6 AM on a Saturday morning. You are now the victim. You have a certain expectation of peace, and that includes sleeping in Saturday morning. You can go over and ask him to turn it down or mow the lawn later; and he can respond he doesn't have to because there are no laws or ordinances. What can you do? What can anyone do legally to change it? Get a noise ordinance in place. That's how.

In common law, in order for a crime to exist, there must be something called Corpus delicti. And if it's a civil matter, produce the contract? The judge will look at you like :leon: and dismiss it. And you must present the judges and officers (agent) oath of office into the record since they swore to abide by the constitution. Statutes, codes and ordinances do not trump constitutional law. All these municipalities which are private corporations act in a inferior capacity to swindle funds from you. That's why they refuse to teach civics and law in the school system.
Since it is a local ordinance, it will be heard in criminal court. The judge will usually uphold the local ordinances, but you can appeal his decision which will push the case up to a higher court.
Civics and law is not taught in school because it is a specialized topic, kind of like economics. People, like parents who want their children to graduate by lowering testing standards, would look at civics and law classwork as a way to "keep the man down" by teaching a difficult class. It can be made available but how many kids would voluntarily sign up for that class?
 

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That's true.


Anyone who doesn't want to listen to someone else's music that is at a high volume. So here, we are assuming white people don't want to hear loud "rap" music. But, this can apply to other things like the redneck cranking his "country" music from his pickup truck's stereo. It goes both ways. What if your neighbor decides to crank a recording of Tuvan throat singing from his 1000 watt power amp DJ system at 7 AM on a Saturday morning and he lives next door to you? Or what if he just mows his lawn at 6 AM on a Saturday morning. You are now the victim. You have a certain expectation of peace, and that includes sleeping in Saturday morning. You can go over and ask him to turn it down or mow the lawn later; and he can respond he doesn't have to because there are no laws or ordinances. What can you do? What can anyone do legally to change it? Get a noise ordinance in place. That's how.


Since it is a local ordinance, it will be heard in criminal court. The judge will usually uphold the local ordinances, but you can appeal his decision which will push the case up to a higher court.
Civics and law is not taught in school because it is a specialized topic, kind of like economics. People, like parents who want their children to graduate by lowering testing standards, would look at civics and law classwork as a way to "keep the man down" by teaching a difficult class. It can be made available but how many kids would voluntarily sign up for that class?

It benefits the person at the end of the day. People are being manipulated and scammed out of their dollars and birth rights. The only reason why the local courts which are inferior courts will uphold the ordinance, statutes or codes because they are municipalities which are private corporations. Due to the ignorance of the ppl about law, folks will automatically go with it. Any administrative law judge or magistrate took an oath to uphold the constitution. That's why it's always important to always present that for the record in case he or she acts outside their capacity.

ORDINANCE, legislation. A law, a statute, a decree.

2. This word is more usually applied to the laws of a corporation, than to the acts of the legislature; as the ordinances of the city of Philadelphia. The following account of the difference between a statute and an ordinance is extracted from Bac. Ab. Statute, A. "Where the proceeding consisted only of a petition from parliament, and an answer from the king, these were entered on the parliament roll; and if the matter was of a public nature, the whole was then styled an ordinance; if, however, the petition and answer were not only of a public, but a novel nature, they were then formed into an act by the king, with the aid of his council and judges, and entered on the statute roll." See Harg. & But. Co. Litt. l59 b, notis; 3 Reeves, Hist. Eng. Law, 146.

"An administrative regulation, of course, is not a "statute." U.S. v Mersky (1960) 361 U.S. 431

Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.”; Miranda v. State of Arizona, 86 S.Ct. 1602 at 1636, 384 U.S. 436 at 491 (U.S.Ariz.1966)

"Agency, or party sitting for the agency, (which would be the magistrate of a municipal court) has no authority to enforce as to any licensee unless he is acting for compensation. Such an act is highly penal in nature, and should not be construed to include anything which is not embraced within its terms. (Where) there is no charge within a complaint that the accused was employed for compensation to do the act complained of, or that the act constituted part of a contract." Schomig v. Kaiser, 189 Cal 596.

"When acting to enforce a statute and its subsequent amendments to the present date, the judge of the municipal court is acting as an administrative officer and not in a judicial capacity; courts in administering or enforcing statutes do not act judicially, but merely ministerially".
Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 583.

"A judge ceases to sit as a judicial officer because the governing principle of administrative law provides that courts are prohibited from substituting their evidence, testimony, record, arguments, and rationale for that of the agency. Additionally, courts are prohibited from substituting their judgment for that of the agency. Courts in administrative issues are prohibited from even listening to or hearing arguments, presentation, or rational." ASIS v. US, 568 F2d 284.

"Ministerial officers are incompetent to receive grants of judicial power from the legislature, their acts in attempting to exercise such powers are necessarily nullities." Burns v. Sup., Ct., SF, 140 Cal. 1.

The elementary doctrine that the constitutionality of a legislative act is open to attack only by persons whose rights are affected thereby, applies to statute relating to administrative agencies, the validity of which may not be called into question in the absence of a showing of substantial harm, actual or impending, to a legally protected interest directly resulting from the enforcement of the statute." Board of Trade v. Olson, 262 US 1; 29 ALR 2d 105.

Since all courts must uphold the constitution, if I asked them for the injured party...they must produce it. I've been through this already.
 

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It benefits the person at the end of the day. People are being manipulated and scammed out of their dollars and birth rights. The only reason why the local courts which are inferior courts will uphold the ordinance, statutes or codes because they are municipalities which are private corporations. Due to the ignorance of the ppl about law, folks will automatically go with it. Any administrative law judge or magistrate took an oath to uphold the constitution. That's why it's always important to always present that for the record in case he or she acts outside their capacity.

ORDINANCE, legislation. A law, a statute, a decree.

...Since all courts must uphold the constitution, if I asked them for the injured party...they must produce it. I've been through this already.
I know the law, I was a cop.

Well, in the noise ordinance cases, you have two scenarios. One, a cop is just randomly patrolling his beat and overhears loud music. He enforces the local noise ordinance because it is his job.
Two, someone calls the police because of loud music. In this case, the cop has enough probable cause to ticket the offender for the noise ordinance violation without having to summons the neighbor who called it in.
Going by what you are saying about upholding the constitution, there was enough of a problem for people to come up with an ordinance because nothing else could stop someone from being loud at certain hours of the day. They were the victims and nothing could be done about it unless an ordinance was created.
So, in these cases, you feel that for an ordinance to be applied, someone has to be a victim and be summoned to court.
There are other ordinances. They seem petty, like grass too high on private property. Who is the victim? Basically homeowners in the neighborhood. It looks like blight and ghetto. Noise ordinances, tall grass ordinances, panhandlers on the streets and others are based on the general public being the victim.

So, if someone is speeding, that's a violation of traffic law. But who is the victim? A potential victim would be another driver in a car involved in an accident due to high speed. But no accident occurred while the driver was speeding? So how can he get a ticket? Going by your constitutional law of presenting a victim, he shouldn't be ticketed unless there was a victim. Well, the general public is the victim and safety is decreased by someone speeding. Spin factor is pretty high?
 

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I know the law, I was a cop.

Well, in the noise ordinance cases, you have two scenarios. One, a cop is just randomly patrolling his beat and overhears loud music. He enforces the local noise ordinance because it is his job.
Two, someone calls the police because of loud music. In this case, the cop has enough probable cause to ticket the offender for the noise ordinance violation without having to summons the neighbor who called it in.
Going by what you are saying about upholding the constitution, there was enough of a problem for people to come up with an ordinance because nothing else could stop someone from being loud at certain hours of the day. They were the victims and nothing could be done about it unless an ordinance was created.
So, in these cases, you feel that for an ordinance to be applied, someone has to be a victim and be summoned to court.
There are other ordinances. They seem petty, like grass too high on private property. Who is the victim? Basically homeowners in the neighborhood. It looks like blight and ghetto. Noise ordinances, tall grass ordinances, panhandlers on the streets and others are based on the general public being the victim.

So, if someone is speeding, that's a violation of traffic law. But who is the victim? A potential victim would be another driver in a car involved in an accident due to high speed. But no accident occurred while the driver was speeding? So how can he get a ticket? Going by your constitutional law of presenting a victim, he shouldn't be ticketed unless there was a victim. Well, the general public is the victim and safety is decreased by someone speeding. Spin factor is pretty high?

with all due respect, you cannot be serious with that explanation. There are "potential victims" in common law? :laff:
 
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