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While that is true, it doesn't mean that you support the decision to do "the decision."
People watch crap on tv all the time that they don't necessarily condone personally. If I watch Fox news that doesn't mean I agree with their viewpoints.

Yeah it does. People only had a problem with the Decision after the fact. No one was saying before hand that it was so horrible and the worst thing ever and he's such an arrogant ass because the possibility that he would pick their team was still there. It's basically the equivalent of accusing the dealer of cheating when you lose at the casino. If you had won, even if he was cheating it would be cool. Cheating isn't he issue, the fact that you lost is the issue. People need to stop putting all of this fake morality in front of hurt feelings and just call it what it is.

You can't say something shouldn't be done and support it's existence at the same time. If you watch Fox News obviously you don't think it shouldn't exist, you may disagree with what you see but obviously it's existence doesn't trouble you that much. If it does then why watch it? To get mad? To have something to complain about? That is stupid. It's one thing to say you don't like or agree something. It's another to say it shouldnt' exist after supporting its existence. nikkas are saying he shouldn't have done the shyt, not that they disagree with what he did on there.
 

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Yeah it does. People only had a problem with the Decision after the fact. No one was saying before hand that it was so horrible and the worst thing ever and he's such an arrogant ass because the possibility that he would pick their team was still there. It's basically the equivalent of accusing the dealer of cheating when you lose at the casino. If you had won, even if he was cheating it would be cool. Cheating isn't he issue, the fact that you lost is the issue. People need to stop putting all of this fake morality in front of hurt feelings and just call it what it is.
I agree the "outrage" is blown out of proportion, but you seem to be saying that you can't have an adverse reaction to something you see on television without supporting it? Plenty of people thought it would be cruel to choose a team other than Cleveland on national tv. I agreed with that sentiment at the time and I still agree.

I like a lot of people always thought it was a dumb idea, I also wanted him to sign with the Knicks. I watched because I wanted to see what would happen.


You can't say something shouldn't be done and support it's existence at the same time.

That's pretty much a staple of the 1st amendment.

If you watch Fox News obviously you don't think it shouldn't exist, you may disagree with what you see but obviously it's existence doesn't trouble you that much. If it does then why watch it? To get mad? To have something to complain about? That is stupid.

For information, to hear different viewpoints.
 

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I agree the "outrage" is blown out of proportion, but you seem to be saying that you can't have an adverse reaction to something you see on television without supporting it? Plenty of people thought it would be cruel to choose a team other than Cleveland on national tv. I agreed with that sentiment at the time and I still agree.

I like a lot of people always thought it was a dumb idea, I also wanted him to sign with the Knicks. I watched because I wanted to see what would happen.

That's pretty much a staple of the 1st amendment.



For information, to hear different viewpoints.

No I am saying that if you have a problem with a tv show existing why would you watch it and thus support its existence. It's one thing to be unhappy with what happens on a show, it's another to say the show shouldn't be on.

Nobody outside of Cleveland give a fukk about Cleveland and we all know it.

The prospect of him going to the Knicks outweighed the stupidity for you. I am sure it wouldn't have been as dumb to you if he said "Madison Square Garden" instead of "South Beach".

If you watch something for info or to hear different viewpoints then obviously you don't have problem with that show/network existing right?
 

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No I am saying that if you have a problem with a tv show existing why would you watch it and thus support its existence. It's one thing to be unhappy with what happens on a show, it's another to say the show shouldn't be on.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be on. I'm saying I don't agree with his decision to do it. Two different things.


Nobody outside of Cleveland give a fukk about Cleveland and we all know it.
Him dissing Cleveland doesn't affect me personally, so in that sense "I don't care." But, I still think it was messed up for him to do that to that community and I think its fine for people to comment on that.

The prospect of him going to the Knicks outweighed the stupidity for you. I am sure it wouldn't have been as dumb to you if he said "Madison Square Garden" instead of "South Beach".
Still would've been dumb to me. I'm not one of those over reactionary, "Lebron is a devil" cats. I'm a fan who thinks he's made some poor decisions. I also think the "hate" he's gotten is way overboard. At the end of the day I care about the basketball more than anything.


If you watch something for info or to hear different viewpoints then obviously you don't have problem with that show/network existing right?
Well I don't believe in censorship, so no.
 

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I'm not saying it shouldn't be on. I'm saying I don't agree with his decision to do it. Two different things.

Actaully that is the same thing. If he didnt' do the shyt then it wouldn't have been on. :wtf:

Him dissing Cleveland doesn't affect me personally, so in that sense "I don't care." But, I still think it was messed up for him to do that to that community and I think its fine for people to comment on that.

I respect people in Cleveland expressing that POV. It's :gag: and :rudy: when people from other communities especially those that were hoping that he came to their team and thus shytted on Cleveland for them try to front like they give a fukk about Cleveland

Still would've been dumb to me. I'm not one of those over reactionary, "Lebron is a devil" cats. I'm a fan who thinks he's made some poor decisions. I also think the "hate" he's gotten is way overboard. At the end of the day I care about the basketball more than anything.

Fair enough

Well I don't believe in censorship, so no.

Not supporting things that you dont' like in hopes that they stop existing is not censorship. Everyone has the right to not support things that they don't like. If TV shows/networks arent' supported they don't air. If you think something shouldnt' air then it's completely illogical to watch it. Do you disagree with my assertion that most people's issue with "The Decision" isn't the fact that he had a special it's where he chose to go on said special?
 

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Basically what FTBS is saying is that if you tune in to something, whether it be for positive or negative reasons, you are supporting it (in the case of those who are anti-[insert entertainer], you are unintentionally supporting them). For instance; if you are a WWE fan and you hate, let's say, John Cena and are sick of seeing him, do not tune in when he is on TV to complain about him, just change the channel or turn off the TV. The same could have been said for those who are/were against LeBron and "The Decision".
 

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Do you disagree with my assertion that most people's issue with "The Decision" isn't the fact that he had a special it's where he chose to go on said special?


To a certain degree, possibly even the majority of the dissension, yet there's also a segment of casual sports fans who could care less where he went, but were turned off by the whole spectacle.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be on. I'm saying I don't agree with his decision to do it. Two different things.

Actaully that is the same thing. If he didnt' do the shyt then it wouldn't have been on.

Not supporting things that you dont' like in hopes that they stop existing is not censorship. Everyone has the right to not support things that they don't like. If TV shows/networks arent' supported they don't air. If you think something shouldnt' air then it's completely illogical to watch it.

Think about it like this. Me and you disagree on this, yet we're still reading and responding to these posts. Does that mean we're "supporting" each other's viewpoints?
 

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To a certain degree, possibly even the majority of the dissension, yet there's also a segment of casual sports fans who could care less where he went, but were turned off by the whole spectacle.



Think about it like this. Me and you disagree on this, yet we're still reading and responding to these posts. Does that mean we're "supporting" each other's viewpoints?

We disagree but neither of us has said that the other is horrible and should stop posting. I respect your POV despite the fact that we aren't in total agreement and I am guessing the same is true for you with me. I'm not saying "It was unnecessary for you to post that" after every post. If I deemed your posts unnecessary I wouldn't be reading/responding to them.
 

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Once again why was no one on Cleveland expressing this BEFORE the show. Why was it only bad and classless and rubbing in the face after the fact. You knew 5 teams were gonna be disappointed. I'm sure it would've been just fine to Cleveland fans if he had been classless and rubbed the shyt in the other 5 teams faces.

Yes it becomes in bad taste even more so with his decision. Why is that so hard to understand. I don't think its a big deal but it's like making a public announcement that your leaving wife before you even tell it to her face, pause. But it was just bad taste not a big deal tho.
 

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Yes it becomes in bad taste even more so with his decision. Why is that so hard to understand. I don't think its a big deal but it's like making a public announcement that your leaving wife before you even tell it to her face, pause. But it was just bad taste not a big deal tho.

Never said it wasn't classless or in bad taste. I'm only saying that the people who are so up and arms about it after the fact would have been :dj2: had he picked their team. My issue is selective outrage and morality, I'm not defending the show itself.
 
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