@Hugs made the comment on the real reason black millennials WILL drop the ball just like older gen.

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Malcolm knew that black supremacy was the only way :wow:



I looked all the way through @KidStranglehold thread to see if anyone would say if and finally on the last page someone did. :wow:


I'm both proud and disgusted with the new generation and one before. It's some of the most reactionary bullshyt that I've ever seen and it's 100% controlled by white media.

HOW IN THE fukk, lol... is most young people you talk to in life and even in that thread naming shyt that happen in the last few years as the reason why they had a wake up ?:mindblown:

shyt was 10X worse in the 80's and 90's.

Now we sit , live our lives... and ONLY speak about certain things when White media tells us too... Remember I seen some of you post for like 10 years and most of you made a shift... even those of you who are older than me..... The shift happened because pro black is trendy now I guess. :yeshrug:

.THIS IS WHY I REFUSE to really post in all those 100's of pages long threads every time they shoot us.... when I read through those thread I'm COMPLETELY DISGUSTED:what::what:


Background is this: : : I spend about 80 hours a week educating and speaking to young people (17-29ish) on gun rights, militancy, emergency preparedness, local political elections, and how history ties into this shyt..... What I talk about doesn't even matter --- But what matters is ....

We are doing the same thing that the older blacks did.
1) Are very reactionary and not pro active
2) accepting...... In that thread nearly 100% of the posters I've seen in other threads on some inclusive shyt OR clowning so called militants, OR being accepting of things, groups and people who aren't US.


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BLACK SUPREMACY is at an aLL time low.. black pride is too... look at nearly 100% of the so called movements.. We allow BS like #blacklivesmatter to pop off.... we allow fakktis and crakkers to speak on our shyt and we star their shyt on twitter.. We allow white media to tell us when we are oppressed or when something is fukked up. A brother will be shot by police today and we will NOT speak on it unless the white media demands that we do. And worse we will not prepare our young boys to survive our here.

 

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Nah. The polar shift and other world events are happening at the same time. Something dope is about to happen. Just watch and do.
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something?

The word something means nothing to me..

and it take more than one person Doing.

and if the mentality is the same... or worse, then it doesn't matter what happens:francis:
 

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shyt was 10X worse in the 80's and 90's.

Who cares about when it was worse. Whats the suppose to mean? The point is blacks are still doing BAD. And if we're going to talk about "worse", blacks in the 80s and 90s at least had job opportunities and were not struggling. I'm talking about the younger blacks today. Meanwhile statistics today are showing young blacks are having a hard time getting employment and have to live with their parents. Due to the cost of living, which wasn't even that high back then. Not only that, but even with a bachelor its still hard. Again wanna talk about worse? At least blacks back then had a strong family structure and a stable economy. Did the older generation have to compete with a growing immigration population for jobs.

So please lose us on which era was "worse". Especially when the older generation didn't bother passing anything down to the next gen.

Now we sit , live our lives... and ONLY speak about certain things when White media tells us too...
And also I don't believe the white media TOLD us to speak on Michael Brown, Freddie Grey, Eric Gardener and the others. WE MADE THEM speak on it with our reactions.

BLACK SUPREMACY is at an aLL time low.. black pride is too...

And this isn't about, "black supremacy" or having "black pride". The point is for young blacks to turn the black race around entering the 21st century via education, building business, strong economy and strong family structure. Black millinneals are already very educated and their enrollment in college is increasing. The point is getting us ready for the transition and that means education and finance. This is about black EMPOWERMENT!

And because of education the young black generations werent as easily fooled by the propaganda the media was feeding us. And yet you elaborated that we only want to hear what the white media says...
 

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shyt was 10X worse in the 80's and 90's.

Who cares about when it was worse. Whats the suppose to mean? The point is blacks are still doing BAD. And if we're going to talk about "worse", blacks in the 80s and 90s at least had job opportunities and were not struggling. I'm talking about the younger blacks today. Meanwhile statistics today are showing young blacks are having a hard time getting employment and have to live with their parents. Due to the cost of living, which wasn't even that high back then. Not only that, but even with a bachelor its still hard. Again wanna talk about worse? At least blacks back then had a strong family structure and a stable economy. Did the older generation have to compete with a growing immigration population for jobs.

So please lose us on which era was "worse". Especially when the older generation didn't bother passing anything down to the next gen.

The fact that you don't get what I'm saying is part of the issue:wow:


We are on some instagram style shyt with this police oppression... trendy to talk about so we believe the fact that it's trendy that we Actually have a conscious movement going on:wow:

LOL @ you believing there was more opportunity for blacks in the 90's than now.... SHIITTT in the 90's it was equal to now.. except now, as a young black guy I can use tech to do anything I want in life.

:russ: at you saying that 2015 is worse for black than past decades and that we had strong family structures in the 80s n 90s:mjlol:


:francis: ARE YOU familiar with the movie -- Just another girl from the IRT??? That girl was a teen mom and in the hood etc.. but what people don't notice is that she was schooling the Jew teacher on the African Maps and white washed history -- and that the black kids were all with her on that.. That same teen girls mentality would be completely fukkED up today + she would be thinking the illusion of inclusion is real. not pro black not black supremacist.
Look at the ideas of Assata, Malcolm , Garvey, etc.. and the average social circle of John African or anyone pro black in the 90's--------- Now look at the social circles of twitter militants and people who Just NOW discovered things were messed up for blacks here:mjlol:

Now we sit , live our lives... and ONLY speak about certain things when White media tells us too...
And also I don't believe the white media TOLD us to speak on Michael Brown, Freddie Grey, Eric Gardener and the others. WE MADE THEM speak on it with our reactions.

And this isn't about, "black supremacy" or having "black pride".
The point is for young blacks to turn the black race around entering the 21st century via education, building business, strong economy and strong family structure. Black millinneals are already very educated and their enrollment in college is increasing. The point is getting us ready for the transition and that means education and finance.

And because of education the young black generations werent as easily fooled by the propaganda the media was feeding us. And yet you elaborated that we only want to hear what the white media says...

*wait, what are you debating with me for anyway... why are you offended?

:wow: @ the bold.

and :wow: @ people not understanding that group economics can't and will not happen without black pride. I guess we never read the memos of the people who actually did build black wallstreets:mjcry:

I guess we ignore what John Africa and Dr york built and why ( ignoring their ideas.. them brothers were about building)

I've seen 27 posters (lol, I counted) hype of Elijah Muhammad's Economic Blueprint............ I only noticed like 4 speaking about RULE #1 of group economics..... separation.




We are scared, p*ssyfied, and nervous to speak on and do what we need to do, and exclude what we Need to exclude so our "education, building business, strong economy and strong family structure" will be fukking pointless:scust:
 
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something?

The word something means nothing to me..

and it take more than one person Doing.

and if the mentality is the same... or worse, then it doesn't matter what happens:francis:

This is not a repeat of 1968. Were the world events identical? Not really. The economic crisis is worse, the planet is in worse condition, weather patterns are changing, we have a lot more information at our disposal now.
Cold logic does not run everything. BELIEVE. Not like "sky daddy"...but in US as a whole. You ain't gotta SEE everything that's going on to know it's shyt going on that you are unaware of...in your favor.
 

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This is not a repeat of 1968. Were the world events identical? Not really. The economic crisis is worse, the planet is in worse condition, weather patterns are changing, we have a lot more information at our disposal now.
Cold logic does not run everything. BELIEVE. Not like "sky daddy"...but in US as a whole. You ain't gotta SEE everything that's going on to know it's shyt going on that you are unaware of...in your favor.

so basically you're believing in what the Quran and bible speaks about that the oppressed will rule again?
 
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so basically you're believing in what the Quran and bible speaks about that the oppressed will rule again?
I'm seeing it get put into action in different ways. Yes, I am believing but those aren't the only prophetic texts that made it apparent. It's happening on multiple levels underneath the surface. Which is why certain people are turned up right now.
Before an empire crumbles, they always turn up for the last time...They get their licks off before they can't anymore.
 

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The fact that you don't get what I'm saying is part of the issue

No I get EXACTLY what you're saying. I just hate when people use that, "but... but... our era was worse!"

LOL @ you believing there was more opportunity for blacks in the 90's than now.... SHIITTT in the 90's it was equal to now.. except now, as a young black guy I can use tech to do anything I want in life.


Elaborate, because I already did; cost of living, low employment, etc.

at you saying that 2015 is worse for black than past decades and that we had strong family structures in the 80s n 90s

The POINT is every era was worse for blacks in their own different way! And to make matters worse the young black kids today are a RESULT of what happened in the 90s and 80s.

ARE YOU familiar with the movie -- Just another girl from the IRT??? That girl was a teen mom and in the hood etc.. but what people don't notice is that she was schooling the Jew teacher on the African Maps and white washed history --

I actually seen that movie...


and that the black kids were all with her on that.. That same teen girls mentality would be completely fukkED up today + she would be thinking the illusion of inclusion is real. not pro black not black supremacist.

But you're acting like everyone during the 90s were on that trend. While the younger generation today just found out...


Look at the ideas of Assata, Malcolm , Garvey, etc.. and the average social circle of John African or anyone pro black in the 90's--------- Now look at the social circles of twitter militants and people who Just NOW discovered things were messed up for blacks here

Where is proof that they, "just discovered" things were bad, lol. Again you're acting like that was exclusive to the 90s. With the information age and rise of the internet more and more people in my age group are finding out more about these black historic figures and are becoming more conscious. I'm 21 and I knew about these things since I was 14, because of the internet. Saying that those people "just discovered" the problems like they see it as a trend is unfair. The point is they DISCOVERED IT which is GOOD! Nothing else nothing more.

*wait, what are you debating with me for anyway... why are you offended?

No ones offending, but correct me if I'm wrong I'm grasping that you feel that the younger generation are naive and just discovered black issues as just being a "trend" and also the older generation had it worse and so they are more pro-black. Again correct me if I'm wrong...

@ people not understanding that group economics can't and will not happen without black pride. I guess we never read the memos of the people who actually did build black wallstreets.

You forgot where I said BLACK EMPOWERMENT. A different concept than "black pride", which seems to be more in the spirituality catagory. Are the whites in Wall Street going around chanting, "white pride world wide!" No. The only thing they need is white EMPOWERMENT!. Not saying black pride needs to be excluded, but it is not the main thing blacks need! I know many people in real life that have a lot of "black pride" and they are no where in life! I'm just gonna say it like it is...

We need EMPOWERMENT.

I guess we ignore what John Africa and Dr york built and why ( ignoring their ideas.. them brothers were about building)

Who said anything about ignoring? If I understand what you're saying, NO ONE SAID to exclude black pride...

We are scared, p*ssyfied, and nervous to speak on and do what we need to do, and exclude what we Need to exclude so our "education, building business, strong economy and strong family structure" will be fukking pointless





Can you pleas elaborate on what we are nervous and to speak and do? Because this guy wasnt...


And he's not a twitter militant, nor does he seem like he just discovered things...
 

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I'm seeing it get put into action in different ways. Yes, I am believing but those aren't the only prophetic texts that made it apparent. It's happening on multiple levels underneath the surface. Which is why certain people are turned up right now.
Before an empire crumbles, they always turn up for the last time...They get their licks off before they can't anymore.
i agree... :manny:
 

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@KidStranglehold 1 and 2 people doesn't matter to me.

Community consciousness is important is what I'm saying.

2015 isn't worse
We can agree to disagree.

All I'm saying is that not having black pride/supremacy is not the reason why the black community is in the state that it is in nor is it the SOLE REASON on how to fix our problem. IMO the key is black empowerment.
 

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We can agree to disagree.

All I'm saying is that not having black pride/supremacy is not the reason why the black community is in the state that it is in nor is it the SOLE REASON on how to fix our problem. IMO the key is black empowerment.
What is the motivator of Black empowerment?

Do you know? Maybe I don't know.

So let look at history and you will see that we can agree to disagree but that you are wrong and need to correct your mentality.

I'm not trying to be offensive... but you are black right ? ( I only ask because i don't know either way)

And not having black pride isn't the reason why the black community is in it's state........ but lack of pride is why the road to success is and has been rough. .. Why most of black america didn't really fukk with people like MAlcom X.... Why we believe in the illusion of inclusion.... Why we fought so hard for integration and civil rights and damn near ignored human rights.
 

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What is the motivator of Black empowerment?

Do you know? Maybe I don't know.
Education, building/business, economy, an agenda.

So let look at history and you will see that we can agree to disagree but that you are wrong and need to correct your mentality.

I'm not trying to be offensive... but you are black right ? ( I only ask because i don't know either way)
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Judge for yourself.

And not having black pride isn't the reason why the black community is in it's state........ but lack of pride is why the road to success is and has been rough. .. Why most of black america didn't really fukk with people like MAlcom X.... Why we believe in the illusion of inclusion.... Why we fought so hard for integration and civil rights and damn near ignored human rights.


I can agree with the bolded and it is definitely true. Good point. But black pride is NOT enough. Like I said I know many people who have "black pride", but they are nowhere in life in terms of black empowerment. Black pride is good as far as being an obstacle in pushing an agenda and resisting white supremacy, but it is not enough for empowerment. Like I said those wallstreet whites are not on some "white pride world wide" like some white nationalist, but they are on some white empowerment. These white kids who drive those fancy cars at my college, their parents are not on some white pride, but they are on white EMPOWERMENT. Because their parents practiced empowerment and made sure their kids inherit.

Also I want to touch base back on your claim about the younger generation lack of black pride and knewledge of black issues in that they are just "discovering it". Well who's fault is that? Their parents. And I am an example. My parents didnt teach me sh*t about black empowerment, black pride, black/African history or black issues. No. I had to learn that on my own and its thanks to the internet, information age and social media. This is the same for most blacks in my age group. So who's fault is it really.

Why didnt those pro-blacks during the 90s, 80s and earlier install black pride into their children? Thats all I'm asking.
 

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Education, building/business, economy, an agenda.


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Judge for yourself.




I can agree with the bolded and it is definitely true. Good point. But black pride is NOT enough. Like I said I know many people who have "black pride", but they are nowhere in life in terms of black empowerment. Black pride is good as far as being an obstacle in pushing an agenda and resisting white supremacy, but it is not enough for empowerment. Like I said those wallstreet whites are not on some "white pride world wide" like some white nationalist, but they are on some white empowerment. These white kids who drive those fancy cars at my college, their parents are not on some white pride, but they are on white EMPOWERMENT. Because their parents practiced empowerment and made sure their kids inherit.

Also I want to touch base back on your claim about the younger generation lack of black pride and knewledge of black issues in that they are just "discovering it". Well who's fault is that? Their parents. And I am an example. My parents didnt teach me sh*t about black empowerment, black pride, black/African history or black issues. No. I had to learn that on my own and its thanks to the internet, information age and social media. This is the same for most blacks in my age group. So who's fault is it really.

Why didnt those pro-blacks during the 90s, 80s and earlier install black pride into their children? Thats all I'm asking.

I agree that parents didn't pass down the info. The civil right generation dropped the ball and didn't teach group economics.

I didn't grow up like that.... I was a black supremacist as a toddler.. got in kindergarten basically disgusted at this cave bytch trying to teach me shyt when I knew that most black kids can start of at the 3rd grade if they are raised right...... me my brother and cousins, 14 black boys were all told we'd be in the worse trouble for allowing a cac to score higher on anything than us.
stupidity and ignorance are Caucasian traits is what I was taught.

Anyway,

Education, building/business, economy, an agenda ARE NOT THE motivator of Black EMpowerment.......... Those are methods not reasons. M. Garvey didn't build ships and businesses because of some random shyt... he did it for pride. Elijah Muhammad didn't come up with the dopest economic plans just because - he did it to uplift blacks as a group.

In every case that we've seen in history - IT STARTS with Black pride. It starts with Black centered ideology.


If we TRY without that we will fall on our face..... Remember they fukked up Tulsa OK plenty of times. Bombed that shyt plenty of times. They Only time they were not able to rebuild is when they were on that integration wave and Bam ... the black dollar went from being circulated to being pushed out after 5 min. They no longer had an economic base to rebuild.... and they believed in the illusion of includion.

Those ideas are poison for the new blacks and 90's babies..... So for every 2 bruhs that's motivated you have 200K that aren't down with black pride. Black Pride makes them uncomfortable... It's not just bruhs on the coli who say " coli mlitant'.... it's damn near the entire generation who are scared and uncomfortable with Really Being Pro Black.
 
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