How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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‘IT’S JUST COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL’ — The White House has been pretty clear in recent days: Federal student loan payments will resume Feb. 1 as Biden lifts the nearly two-year pandemic-era pause despite pressure from many in his own party to extend it.

Behind the scenes, that political reality has led the Biden administration to conduct Zoom meetings with allies in the student loan forgiveness space in an effort to make the resumption of loan repayments as smooth as possible.

But despite their no-drama intent, the confabs have not always been smooth sailing.

One such “tense meeting,” described by someone familiar with what happened in the conversation, happened Wednesday. Loan forgiveness advocates relayed to members of Biden’s domestic policy and economic teams that beyond the actual economic, legal and policy implications of lifting the loan repayment pause, the move was “bad politically.” They wanted “to sound the alarm to them about what we believe to be a very serious political mistake that they’re about to be making,” a second source familiar with the conversation told me.

Team Biden was not moved. Multiple sources familiar with what was said at the meeting described the administration’s message as effectively that borrowers had two years to prepare for this and knew the pause wouldn’t last forever.

Sources told me that one administration official in the meeting suggested that overall, the pandemic was trending in the right direction, and that resuming student loan payments is part of getting back to normal.

The White House also "pulled that kind of bullsh-- of ‘the fundamentals of the economy are strong,’ which is devoid of reality,” the first source familiar with the conversation added. “Yeah, sure, the stock market may be better. Unemployment numbers are better — yes, absolutely. But in terms of real wages, in terms of how people are feeling in their pocketbook, it’s just completely delusional.”

In the eyes of debt forgiveness advocates, the ramifications of lifting the pause are dire. Not everyone is feeling the impact of a rebounding economy. Rising prices and now a new coronavirus variant are causing widespread unease. And going into an election cycle, a decision like this could affect turnout and enthusiasm — especially among younger voters, who are already unreliable midterm voters.

ARISHA HATCH, the VP of Color of Change, did not attend the meeting, but described the political outlook this way: “Our early research showed that people would be making political decisions based on that issue. When you combine it with an entire narrative about the difficulties that Democrats are having [in] pushing forward an economic agenda that actually offers relief to people, lots of folks were wondering: What is the narrative, what is the story, what is the push when you go back to the voters in this upcoming election cycle?”

Some of the debt forgiveness advocates left the meeting feeling like the White House doesn’t yet have a full plan in place. “It felt like the tail wagging the dog,” a third person familiar with the meeting put it. “Like someone at some point, some number of months ago said, ‘We can’t keep this thing paused forever.’ And so everybody went into execution mode, and nobody actually stopped to think about what they were doing. And now we’re here.”

The White House declined to comment on the record about the meeting, but administration officials again insisted that the loan repayment pause was always meant to be temporary, and pointed to actions the administration has already taken in this realm — including forgiving “$12.7 billion in student loan debt.”

One administration official told Playbook to expect announcements “in the coming weeks and months” on what resources will be available so that borrowers who have already been struggling through the pandemic can hop on the right payment plan, including deferment.

“The Department of Education is taking a number of steps to ensure that it’s not just some sort of cold turkey” situation, the official said. “We are trying to take every step possible to do right by the borrowers.”

As for the Department of Education’s review of whether Biden has the authority to unilaterally cancel at least $10,000 of student debt per borrower — which Biden campaigned on — administration officials tell me that conversations are still happening and no final determination has been made. An official did say that Biden is still ready to sign a $10,000 student loan forgiveness bill into law if Congress can pass it.
 

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Wait, is the argument being made now that he should never resume payments?

:dead:

He should forgive the 10k if he can do so because he ran on it, but come on guys, he's right that folks knew loan payments would resume. :heh:
 

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I think what a lot of y’all forget was that Obama was out there all the time talking about what we should do and ought to do and how to do it when he was president and Dems still lost historic power AND Donald Trump became president after him.

Dems could successfully deliver a few more wins and they would still get shellacked in 2022 and 2024. Even if Dems did everything right they’d still lose. This argument that it will keep them from losing in 2022 and 2024 is fallacious.
This isn't really true though, is it? Obama himself famously admitted one of the biggest mistakes of his administration was their reticence to promote and market their successes out of fear of looking arrogant or something. It was only into his late lame-duck term that he started speaking up more.

Also, Obama made the same mistake Joe is making in refusing to exercise some shows of power with long-hanging executive action fruit. The apathy that hurts Democrats in midterms is in large part undergirded by the widespread belief that Democrats are tentative and scared, always on the back foot, and their making excuses about why they can't do shyt isn't moving the needle. The deck is stacked against them with the map, but if Biden dropped his nuts and did some big EOs (weed, student loans, etc) he can reclaim the high ground of authority and Dems might have a chance.

People want to see the people they put in power actually use that power.
 

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I haven't seen the entire interview but holy shyt what a terrible answer to a valid question. She pretty much said "tough break mfrs, oh well":dead:

What a great way to encourage the youth to vote in the next midterm elections. :laugh:

You have to watch the interview in its entirety. She kept ducking the Manchin question and deflecting with criticism of Republicans.

This should be the energy for all political interviews.
 

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Sources told me that one administration official in the meeting suggested that overall, the pandemic was trending in the right direction, and that resuming student loan payments is part of getting back to normal.

Biden officials: Boot straps motherfukkers. That's what normal times look like!:umad:

I'm looking forward the young voter turn out in the midterms. All you corporate neo liberals. This y'all fault when the red wave comes through :ufdup:
 

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Biden officials: Boot straps motherfukkers. That's what normal times look like!:umad:

I'm looking forward the young voter turn out in the midterms. All you corporate neo liberals. This y'all fault when the red wave comes through :ufdup:
Don't worry they'll blame progressives and boast about how much money they raised.
 
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