How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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So this is going on and not one word from the CBC or Jim Clyburn? Black turnout ends up being low, this'll be why.




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Thanks for reminding me.

Biden doesn't have the votes to make the changes that he wants. Also, he's running out of reconciliation chances as well. Which is probably why he's going with the organization route. But for him not to be out there, for Harris or his wife not to be out there, championing this cause, putting out data, making as big a deal as possible, is a damn failure.

Manchin and Synema are selfish and playing politics. This would get passed if they were not trying to #bothsides the issue. Most likely, they feel they'd lose their seat because of that legislation. Not because their voters would revolt because the bill got passed. But because they think the new voter freedoms from the bill would allow another candidate to take their seats.
This is issue starts and ends with Joe Biden. People need to stop mentioning Manchin and Sinema.
 

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This is issue starts and ends with Joe Biden. People need to stop mentioning Manchin and Sinema.

You can't ignore the rules. You can't pass bills without 60 votes in the Senate and whatever number is needed in the House. If Manchin and Synema keep voting Republican, then the Dems can't get anything done. Not even reconciliation.
 

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You can't ignore the rules. You can't pass bills without 60 votes in the Senate and whatever number is needed in the House. If Manchin and Synema keep voting Republican, then the Dems can't get anything done. Not even reconciliation.
You only need a simple majority in the House and Senate to pass bills. The issue is it takes 60 votes in the Senate to end debate in committee to proceed with a vote. This is where bills die, and this is where Joe Biden refuses to use his bully pulpit to enact rules changes to either 1.) make it more difficult for the minority to filibuster a vote or 2.) carve out an exception for voting rights that would only require a simple majority to invoke cloture. This is how Moscow Mitch was able to get all of his devils on the Supreme Court. Republicans were aligned, so they made the change swiftly with little to no media attention/pushback. Dems are not aligned, therefore this has become a huge kerfuffle that has now led to party activists having to beg in public and some being arrested. Yes, Sinema and Manchin deserve blame, but until I hear a coherent stance from Biden and see some public/private arm twisting of these senators then the blame should lay at his feet for his lack of fight on this issue.
 
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Y’all really believe it’s only Manchin and Sinema who don’t want to get rid of the filibuster? shyt I don’t even think Schumer wants to get rid of it.:mjlol:
Biden’s buddy, Chris c00ns from Delaware, doesn’t want to get rid of the filibuster and is anti a lot of these policies. That’s Biden’s position.
 

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You only need a simple majority in the House and Senate to pass bills. The issue is it takes 60 votes in the Senate to end debate in committee to proceed with a vote. This is where bills die and this is where Joe Biden refuses to use his bully pulpit to enact rules changes to either make it more difficult for the minority to filibuster a vote or carve out an exception for voting rights that would only require a simple majority to invoke cloture. This is how Moscow Mitch got all of his devils on the Supreme Court. Republicans were aligned so they made the change swiftly with little to no media attention/pushback. Dems are not aligned therefore this has become a huge kerfuffle that has now led to party activists having to beg in public and some being arrested. Yes Sinema and Manchim deserve blame, but until I hear a coherent stance from Biden and him doing some public/private arm twisting of these senators then the blame should lay at his feet.

Thank you for the correction. For others - How Many Votes Does It Take to Pass a Senate Bill? - FAIR

With that said, the 3 of them can share the blame together.
 

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Guess I’m old enough to remember when Kemp winning GA and changing election laws meant democrats would never win the state. And yet dems still won all three major races….

None of the laws passed are egregious to the point black people are exclusively targeted. Even if you say drop boxes can’t be used…you can literally still fill out a ballot at your clerks office.

I thought everyone understood expanded absentee voting wasn’t going to continue past Covid. Do I want to see it expanded? Sure. Hell without it Trump would have done even worse so republicans should support it on that basis lol. But it’s absence in many (not all) states in 2022/2024 isn’t going to be a major factor.
 

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Guess I’m old enough to remember when Kemp winning GA and changing election laws meant democrats would never win the state. And yet dems still won all three major races….

None of the laws passed are egregious to the point black people are exclusively targeted. Even if you say drop boxes can’t be used…you can literally still fill out a ballot at your clerks office.

I thought everyone understood expanded absentee voting wasn’t going to continue past Covid. Do I want to see it expanded? Sure. Hell without it Trump would have done even worse so republicans should support it on that basis lol. But it’s absence in many (not all) states in 2022/2024 isn’t going to be a major factor.
The laws are anti-democratic at the core, but people are often hyperbolic when discussing the supposed impacts.
 

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Y’all really believe it’s only Manchin and Sinema who don’t want to get rid of the filibuster? shyt I don’t even think Schumer wants to get rid of it.:mjlol:
It's really just narrative pushing.

If there were only 1 or 2 people against removing it we'd hear more from the 48 others who want to get rid of it.

For all the talk about using the Billy pulpit to resolve the issue, Trump had 0 success after pushing for it throughout his entire presidency. :mjlol:
 

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This is issue starts and ends with Joe Biden. People need to stop mentioning Manchin and Sinema.
Agreed, but Manchin and Sinema aren't even the problem.

Wait till people realize theres like 8-12 other democrat senators Manchin and Sinema are covering for.

Did people forget fukking Feinstein?
 

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Guess I’m old enough to remember when Kemp winning GA and changing election laws meant democrats would never win the state. And yet dems still won all three major races….

None of the laws passed are egregious to the point black people are exclusively targeted. Even if you say drop boxes can’t be used…you can literally still fill out a ballot at your clerks office.

I thought everyone understood expanded absentee voting wasn’t going to continue past Covid. Do I want to see it expanded? Sure. Hell without it Trump would have done even worse so republicans should support it on that basis lol. But it’s absence in many (not all) states in 2022/2024 isn’t going to be a major factor.
Jim Crow wasn't explicitly anti-black either.

Are you fukking serious?

 
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