How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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This is an example of why you have to be careful with the negative polling - a portion of the numbers are driven by non-voters.


Ironically he worked for CAIR


For months, stories swirled around a prominent Muslim civil rights leader, alleging secret marriages, bullying, sexual harassment.

Then, late last year, some of the allegations against 34-year-old Hassan Shibly burst into public view. In a video posted on GoFundMe, Shibly's estranged wife, mother of their three children, looked directly into the camera and begged for help. She said her abusive husband had cut her off financially.

"For years, I've been in an abusive relationship, and the situation at home has become unbearable," Imane Sadrati said. "I finally decided to build the courage to start over for my children and I."



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This is an example of why you have to be careful with the negative polling - a portion of the numbers are driven by non-voters.

I don't see how this is relevant to the polling. If this guy didn't vote, but those who do were still swayed by the message he shared, then it doesn't matter who shared the message. Regardless of that, it's just a hashtag that corresponds to a sentiment that would be felt by the Arab community even if there was no hashtag to put a name on it. Arab and Muslim Americans are going to feel a way of seeing their people being massacred with their tax dollars, and they don't need this guy to help them feel that way.

This is a typical attempt at spin; Changing the narrative from "Joe Biden is doing something unpopular that is effecting his election chances" to "shifty anti-Biden Arabs are deceiving other for the purpose of effecting Biden's election chances." The blame still lies squarely on the unpopular choices Biden is making, and attempts to try and pick out villains from the movement they can blame instead are incredibly disingenuous. It's the same thing that was attempted against the BLM movement. Easy to point at the flawed so called "leaders" than the actual message of the movement.

Don't be a rube. Do not let these people trick you into sharing their bullshyt. Be more media conscious.
 

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I don't see how this is relevant to the polling. If this guy didn't vote, but those who do were still swayed by the message he shared, then it doesn't matter who shared the message. Regardless of that, it's just a hashtag that corresponds to a sentiment that would be felt by the Arab community even if there was no hashtag to put a name on it. Arab and Muslim Americans are going to feel a way of seeing their people being massacred with their tax dollars, and they don't need this guy to help them feel that way.

This is a typical attempt at spin; Changing the narrative from "Joe Biden is doing something unpopular that is effecting his election chances" to "shifty anti-Biden Arabs are deceiving other for the purpose of effecting Biden's election chances." The blame still lies squarely on the unpopular choices Biden is making, and attempts to try and pick out villains from the movement they can blame instead are incredibly disingenuous. It's the same thing that was attempted against the BLM movement. Easy to point at the flawed so called "leaders" than the actual message of the movement.

Don't be a rube. Do not let these people trick you into sharing their bullshyt. Be more media conscious.
My comment isn't specifically about Arab voters nor is it specifically about voters who this individual or his movement may have reached.

It is about the fact that there are various non-voters being lumped into the "Biden is unpopular" camp that are driving a narrative about his polling and favorability. I would have thought that was obvious by my usage of the "This is an example". Apparently not, since we went right to "spin" and media savvy.
 

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My comment isn't specifically about Arab voters nor is it specifically about voters who this individual or his movement may have reached.

It is about the fact that there are various non-voters being lumped into the "Biden is unpopular" camp that are driving a narrative about his polling and favorability. I would have thought that was obvious by my usage of the "This is an example". Apparently not, since we went right to "spin" and media savvy.
But that's a baseless accusation, and it was also a bad example of the baseless accusation. Where is the data that shows that non-voters are driving the narrative? Where is the data that shows it would even matter if non-voters were driving the narrative? It's pure spin.

I am sorry for shooting from the hip, though. I'm used to arguing with bad faith morons on here.
 

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But that's a baseless accusation, and it was also a bad example of the baseless accusation. Where is the data that shows that non-voters are driving the narrative? Where is the data that shows it would even matter if non-voters were driving the narrative? It's pure spin.

I am sorry for shooting from the hip, though. I'm used to arguing with bad faith morons on here.
A couple data points- and I'll accept the hit for not clearly categorizing "non-voters"


The Times/Siena College polls are one of the top pollsters.

Mr. Biden may be weak among young, Black and Hispanic voters today, but that weakness is almost entirely concentrated among the voters who stayed home last November. As a consequence, Democrats paid little to no price for it in the midterms, even as polls of all registered voters or adults show Mr. Biden struggling mightily among these same groups against Mr. Trump.
These less engaged voters might just be the single biggest problem facing Mr. Biden in his pursuit of re-election, the Times/Siena data suggests. If there’s any good news for Mr. Biden, it’s that his challenge is concentrated among voters who still consider themselves Democrats — a group that, in theory, ought to be open to returning to the president’s side.

Whatever the explanation, his challenge among low-turnout voters is broad, spanning virtually every demographic group. As noted in a previous newsletter, the Black and Hispanic voters who skipped the midterms are unusually likely to back Mr. Trump (though not by majority support). Similarly, Mr. Biden holds a 51-33 advantage among young voters who turned out in the midterms, but just a 43-36 lead among those who did not.

Perhaps surprisingly, the pattern even extends to college graduates. Mr. Biden leads by just 11 points among college graduates who skipped the midterms, compared with a 19-point lead among those who turned out. College-educated Democrats who skipped the midterms back Mr. Biden by just 70-9, while college-educated Democrats who turned out in the midterms back him, 98-0.



Table 1 shows vote choice by how likely respondents say they are to vote. Those who say they are absolutely certain to vote make up 80% of registered voters and give Biden an edge, while the 20% of the sample who say they are less than certain to vote strongly favor Trump. (All results in the tables are stated as percentages; the precise wording of the questions can be found in the online link noted above.)

Table 1: Presidential vote, by likelihood of voting, September 2023

Among registered voters

Likelihood of votingDonald TrumpJoe Biden
Total 5148
Absolutely certain 4951
Less than certain 6237
 

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@LOST IN THE SAUCE Where is the data that shows it would even matter if non-voters were driving the narrative?
It matters quite a bit considering the race between Biden and Trump is going to be tight, likely within a 3-4% margin.
 
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