How true is this theory

[Geek Nasty]

IMO it started with Obama’s presidential campaign. A whole lot of old racist cacs found each other on the internet and started hating together.

Racist rhetoric has ramped up since then

 

[Uncouth Savage]

the system is about power (for wealthy white men, of course) and yes, rich white people use divisive tactics to keep the poor of all races at each other's throats as opposed to the throats of the rich... but your average white person would much rather keep rich white people in power, even to their own detriment, than share power with non-whites....

now don't get me wrong, i would never say every last white person is a racist... but every white person loves a racist (not necessarily because they are racist, maybe despite being racist)... in the grand scheme of things, there is not much distinction between the two...

Human beings are all about interests...self-family-community-country-culture-race...in no particular order...
If when slavery was starting ENOUGH white folks had went against it...it would not have lasted a day...
same for civil rights etc....
it was in their interests to continue as...
as the africans that were involved...
There are not enough good people in the world...
give you an idea of where I am coming from...

there was a situation in haiti wherein some haitains were landing in jamaica...some jamaicans were welcoming...some were not...some even said go back to haiti...it boiled to perceived resources and many times "culture"...
when white people say to whoever to go back to their country...I view them as humans who are about their interests...
if a blk american as seen in tlr says go back to your country...I view them as humans who are about their interests...

would you be willing to share your last with a multitude?...say you had one piece of fish and bread for your family....you would share that?
If not why would you expect anyone to share with you?

 

[cheek100]

White peoples greatest fear is that we will “rise up” and retaliate for the atrocities they’ve committed. They know it would be justified too.

 

[mc_brew]

would you be willing to share your last with a multitude?...say you had one piece of fish and bread for your family....you would share that?
If not why would you expect anyone to share with you?

i probably would not be willing to share my last with the multitude, nor would i expect anyone of any color to do that for me... here's a better question, would i build a system to oppress others so that i can have more for me at the expense of their pain and suffering....? no, no, and hell no.... my issue is not with people having something for themselves and not wanting to share it, it is with people taking from others and thinking that is the way it is supposed to be.... you'll never get me to agree to that...

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

Didn’t CRT start in the 70’s /80’s?

I feel him though

yeah but i think hes saying the backlash to it is whats recent. like governors banning it and shyt. before then they probably didnt know about it but theyve turned it into a boogeyman

 

[Uncouth Savage]

i probably would not be willing to share my last with the multitude, nor would i expect anyone of any color to do that for me... here's a better question, would i build a system to oppress others so that i can have more for me at the expense of their pain and suffering....? no, no, and hell no.... my issue is not with people having something for themselves and not wanting to share it, it is with people taking from others and thinking that is the way it is supposed to be.... you'll never get me to agree to that...

taking from others is not the way the world has ran forever, EVERYWHERE?
if you in America, anything done worldwide that is positive/negative are you not blamed/congratulated for that as an American?
would another not consider that you are a part of their oppression if something is done negative?....
perspectives and interests....

if you have a business, how would you share the profits among your employees? Would you not be taking from them if you being paid 100x that they are?

We tend to have a lot to say when we observing others....for example if I was an employee I would say you a shytty employer if I am not getting paid what I think I should...

You get in position and your outlook might change....I am saying all that to say...as you would not share....others choose the same...and if you could build a system to make sure others dont take from you or take from your kids...you might do it...as most humans would...

 

[mc_brew]

taking from others is not the way the world has ran forever, EVERYWHERE?
if you in America, anything done worldwide that is positive/negative are you not blamed/congratulated for that as an American?
would another not consider that you are a part of their oppression if something is done negative?....
perspectives and interests....

if you have a business, how would you share the profits among your employees? Would you not be taking from them if you being paid 100x that they are?

We tend to have a lot to say when we observing others....for example if I was an employee I would say you a shytty employer if I am not getting paid what I think I should...

You get in position and your outlook might change....I am saying all that to say...as you would not share....others choose the same...and if you could build a system to make sure others dont take from you or take from your kids...you might do it...as most humans would...

building a system to prevent others from taking from me is one thing, building a system to take from others is another thing....

 

[Uncouth Savage]

building a system to prevent others from taking from me is one thing, building a system to take from others is another thing....

its said for any civilization to rise....there has to be slave labor or near so....pyramids...slavery...etc
even today in china....if the people were treated with certain rights...like workers etc...they might not be the technological center they are...also being damn intellectual property thieves...their workforce is their main engine for growth....

there is no way you can build a system by yourself....and if done with others....then you have to have exclusions....or treat others poorly lesser than...

maybe you would not want to admit it....yet I think humans are far more selfish than they would like to admit...and to further themselves or build a system...bad things are willing to be done for that....

I am just against the broad strokes of judgement against entire people....when in reality we ourselves fall short of the grace of god as they cliche goes...

 

[mc_brew]

I am just against the broad strokes of judgement against entire people....when in reality we ourselves fall short of the grace of god as they cliche goes...

we're mostly in agreement on this point...

 

[Uncouth Savage]

we're mostly in agreement on this point...

Yeah that is all this about...shining a light on ourselves as we do others....and the only way to progress...is for us to unite as human beings....small earth...seems impossible...bless up

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Interesting point but disagree with CRT. There have been stories for years school districts rewriting history especially when it comes to slavery. When you think about it, America is obsessed with keeping a positive image. Issues like slavery and CRT ruins that image and people just rather do away with it.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

People who are saying, "this backlash has been since Obama" are ignoring that the backlash until very recently was focused on the political, not the educational. Disrupting schoolboard meetings, banning BLM signs in schools, huge public drives to ban books, the CRT witch hunt, this is all very much a recent phenomena. Not that things like that never happened in isolation, but they weren't a driving cultural narrative until just now.

Interesting point but disagree with CRT. There have been stories for years school districts rewriting history especially when it comes to slavery. When you think about it, America is obsessed with keeping a positive image. Issues like slavery and CRT ruins that image and people just rather do away with it.

Schools rewriting history to be more pro-"white people" goes back over 100 years.

In the 1990s there was a big backlash against it and a lot of shyt started changing. Books like Lies My Teacher Told Me were required reading in many grad schools for aspiring teachers and administrators. This is also in line with the steady trend of teachers being more and more of a "liberal" profession, even in red states, so a lot of white conservative kids were finding their teacher to be the most liberal authority figure they encountered on a given day. The curriculum changed significantly during this period.

Obviously since Obama there's been a big white conservative backlash built around racial resentment. But I believe it's only recently that they realized how much they were losing their own kids. Resentful white conservatives across the country saw their own children posting anti-white supremacy shyt on social media and holding up signs at BLM marches and flipped the fukk out.

I hadn't connected it myself, but can see a very real basis to the idea that the schools-focused manifestation of racial resentment is highly tied to young people's participation in the 2020 protests.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

People who are saying, "this backlash has been since Obama" are ignoring that the backlash until very recently was focused on the political, not the educational. Disrupting schoolboard meetings, banning BLM signs in schools, huge public drives to ban books, the CRT witch hunt, this is all very much a recent phenomena. Not that things like that never happened in isolation, but they weren't a driving cultural narrative until just now.






Schools rewriting to be more pro-white people goes back over 100 years.

In the 1990s there was a big backlash against it and a lot of shyt started changing. Books like Lies My Teacher Told Me - Wikipedia were required reading in many grad schools for aspiring teachers and administrators. This is also in line with the steady trend of teachers being more and more of a "liberal" profession, even in red states, so a lot of white conservative kids were finding their teacher to be the most liberal authority figure they encountered on a given day. The curriculum changed significantly during this period.

Obviously since Obama there's been a big white conservative backlash built around racial resentment. But I believe it's only recently that they realized how much they were losing their own kids. Resentful white conservatives across the country saw their own children posting anti-white supremacy shyt on social media and holding up signs at BLM marches and flipped the fukk out.

I hadn't connected it myself, but can see a very real basis to the idea that the schools-focused manifestation of racial resentment is highly tied to young people's participation in the 2020 protests.

That's a fair assessment.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

People who are saying, "this backlash has been since Obama" are ignoring that the backlash until very recently was focused on the political, not the educational. Disrupting schoolboard meetings, banning BLM signs in schools, huge public drives to ban books, the CRT witch hunt, this is all very much a recent phenomena. Not that things like that never happened in isolation, but they weren't a driving cultural narrative until just now.






Schools rewriting history to be more pro-"white people" goes back over 100 years.

In the 1990s there was a big backlash against it and a lot of shyt started changing. Books like Lies My Teacher Told Me - Wikipedia were required reading in many grad schools for aspiring teachers and administrators. This is also in line with the steady trend of teachers being more and more of a "liberal" profession, even in red states, so a lot of white conservative kids were finding their teacher to be the most liberal authority figure they encountered on a given day. The curriculum changed significantly during this period.

Obviously since Obama there's been a big white conservative backlash built around racial resentment. But I believe it's only recently that they realized how much they were losing their own kids. Resentful white conservatives across the country saw their own children posting anti-white supremacy shyt on social media and holding up signs at BLM marches and flipped the fukk out.

I hadn't connected it myself, but can see a very real basis to the idea that the schools-focused manifestation of racial resentment is highly tied to young people's participation in the 2020 protests.

what do you think will happen if it continues that a large portion of white america are learning bullshyt?
Anti science, education, politics, environment, history, biology etc etc

I liken it to the taliban and religious type societies
extremely stunted

 

[Professor Emeritus]

what do you think will happen if it continues that a large portion of white america are learning bullshyt?
Anti science, education, politics, environment, history, biology etc etc

I liken it to the taliban and religious type societies
extremely stunted

I think our own history is a better guide. It'll be more like the 1950s/60s, where half of America has to work harder and harder to push for the change whereas the other half goes to further and further extremes to stop change.