How The MCU Fixed Themselves & Why The DCEU Can Be Corrected (keep the stanning away)

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Whether you hate the DCEU movies or not, this is not the thread for that. this is a thread discussing how Marvel built their public perception and how the DCEU can do the same also.

Ask anyone, NO ONE, NO ONE will ever deny how good Iron Man 1 was, the foundation of what is the MCU, but lets not kid ourselves, the 2nd bat was disastrous, the Hulk movie bombed, financially and critically, and because of 2 hulk bombs we'll never see a Hulk solo again (even tho i think current MCU can do son justice now).

My case of this argument was, imagine if you fucctards said Marvel should quit after such a disaster, we wouldn't get what we see today. what did they do ? RIGHT BACK TO WHAT WORKS.. ''works''

RDJ = Iron Man = $$ = HAPPY PUBLIC

they steamrolled Iron Man 2 straight and of course people loved it, and then Thor even tho was shyt, was light enough to be passable and down the line we have the MCU.

My point. ON PAPER, fucc your reviews and feelings.. ON PAPER, what MATTERS TO STOCK HOLDERS, the DCEU is very profitable, in 5 films they have made more money than MCU first 5. contrary to what you guys call ''BvS was a flop and needed a billi to recoup, the studio ACTUALLY made a profit''. so no it was not a flop.

even JL and its 96 milli OW, will end its run on a profit. so regardless of how you feel, the studio is not going to stop making movies because critics dont like it, they WILL DEFINITELY change shyt tho.. cause unless you're a hater, like a genuine fucc boy, i dont know why you would want to see comic movie stop being produced ?? shyt makes no sense, we are in the GOLDEN AGES of cbm. i want to see DC & Marvel, Fox & Sony bring all my favourites to the big screen, im excited. we have fuccin BLACK PANTHER. do you realise how dope that shyt is ????

My point..

like Marvel fell back on what worked and got it right.. right now the DCEU has somethin which WORKS.. Wonder Woman.

Gal = WW = $$ = Happy Public

they need to get WW2 steamrolled ASAP and get people happy. Aquaman is done and SHAZAM is in production which can't be helped but on a real, Let Batman simmer for a minute and let WW get people excited, and you can throw in Bats as the reason she's now inspired so at least he's in the mix.

If i were at WB, right now in particular order i'd do

Aquaman
SHAZAM
WW 2
MOS 2
Black Adam
The BATMAN
Deathstroke
SS 2
WW 3
Flash
MOS 3
Aquaman 2
Batman 2
JL 2

.. seriously, get Wonder Woman on track and it's good to go. people are loving how Supes is especially since his resurrection and how happy he is now. People have been asking for a MOS sequel, get that shyt out..

another major thing is WB needs to STOP announcing a plathora of movies and no plan.

It's a blessing in disguise that Aquaman is the only movie on the slate for next year. they have a year, A FULL YEAR to get shyt right, thats a Batman Prep time amount of time they have, 12 damn months, yooo

GET A PLAN FULLY SET with a goal in mind and let shyt rock.. all this panicking and changing last minute gotta stop.. simple, if it works, the public will have no choice but to love it. when every decision seems reactionary then nothing works.

2019 can be a wonderful year for the DCEU if the fakkits at WB get their act together.

what do you guys think ??

and please, dont be that dikkhead who replies ''make better movies, like marvel doesnt have _____ '' anywayssssssss.
 

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What held Marvel at the beginning was the Iron Man and Captain America Movies. Both had a great/positive reception and became the Icon to what Marvel has done best in (The Avengers).

Also helps that they have great directors and writers plus a Producer [Kevin Feige] who seems to be a comic fan first... not profit first [DC]
 

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What held Marvel at the beginning was the Iron Man and Captain America Movies. Both had a great/positive reception and became the Icon to what Marvel has done best in (The Avengers).

Also helps that they have great directors and writers plus a Producer [Kevin Feige] who seems to be a comic fan first... not profit first [DC]
Yeah, someone who is a comic book fan first really helps. While Johns has a big title over at WB/DC I'm not convinced he has all that much power.
 

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There is nothing they can do :heh:

When I was growing up NO ONE gave a fukk about DC Comics.. NO ONE..

No one cares about any of their characters except Batman and Superman..

Sorry...
Where are you from? Just curious cause this might be a regional thing. I know that NY POCs love Marvel.
 

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There is nothing they can do :heh:

When I was growing up NO ONE gave a fukk about DC Comics.. NO ONE..

No one cares about any of their characters except Batman and Superman..

Sorry...

the only reason the avengers worked as well is because marvel had to work with them. if they still had the rights to the x men and spider man, we would have those movies rather than the avengers. if dc focused on some of their lesser knowns like marvel did might help get these characters get support
 

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the only reason the avengers worked as well is because marvel had to work with them. if they still had the rights to the x men and spider man, we would have those movies rather than the avengers. if dc focused on some of their lesser knowns like marvel did might help get these characters get support
Didn’t even finish reading this post cause it started off dumb..

Marvel’s characters are iconic and loved. PERIOD. That’s it. Don’t try to give me some bullshyt theory..

The movies work cause we fukkin love the characters...

That’s it
 

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Didn’t even finish reading this post cause it started off dumb..

Marvel’s characters are iconic and loved. PERIOD. That’s it. Don’t try to give me some bullshyt theory..

The movies work cause we fukkin love the characters...

That’s it

iconic to comic fans, not to the general public.

or are you gonna try to tell me that cap, iron man, and thor were as well known as batman, superman, spider man and wolverine?
 

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DC needs to just buckle down n ride it out, n i say that as someone who thinks all these movies outside of MOS n WW were hella flawed.

Marvel didn't strike gold continuously until after Avengers.
Ironman 1 was gold, Incredible Hulk was wood, Thor was copper n The first Avenger was gold imo but only made brass dough.

DC is in a similar position, but with one major difference. JL was supposed to be their Avengers moment, but they wasted it on that trash BVS.

If i had the ear of the decision makers, I'd continue the course but focus on WW(power her up to comic levels ala nearly Superman strength n speed n let her fly dammit!) Flash n Shazam.

Make Batman, Aguaman n Superman the Hulk/Hawkeyes of the bunch for now. Featured heavily but not the stars.

Superman features heavily in Shazam, as something almost like a role model to Billy.

Batman features in WW, while Cyborg n Aguaman cliq up with Flash.

Bring the movie quality up as a universe across the board, n then relaunch Batman n Superman solos. As they are right now, they're musty as fukk n need a soak n scrub.

This would all take a few years but given time n care, they could reap like Marvel is....

But Warner won't do this cuz they've yet to show a true vision to this DCEU thing.

Everything they've done thus far has been reactionary, and this is the results.

MCU = House of visionaries.
DCEU = House of reactionaries.

Expect nothing but Batman n Wonderwoman going forward.

They ultimately lack faith in the characters at their disposal.

Hence why Superman couldn't just be Superman, he had to have a twist to get butts in chairs.
 
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