"How Mandela Sold Out Blacks" Open Letter

theworldismine13

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well. it worked for uganda. i've been there and seen it. i can't talk for zimbabwe i ain' been there.

it worked on zimbabwe too, if land is confiscated and given to private owners its not as bad as when government confiscates land it keeps it to itself in behalf of nationalization

that is why some of these land transfers arent as bad as predicted, its still capitalism in a round about way

but as a cure for the overall economy, its nothing

the main problem in all these african counties is the same, lack of individual rights, lack of economic rights, lack of free trade and capitalism and lack of education
 

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i dont know, i think i already addressed it, you cannot educate an uneducated population with widespread illiteracy overnight, education is something that fundamentally happens at home, its suppose to be part of your culture, you learn how to read and count from your parents, just like you learn how to dance, what to eat or how to talk, so if your parents are not educated and/or they dont speak the english as the main language, the black student is at a huge disadvantage out the gate

also after apartheid you have very few quality educated teachers relative to the population, so that even if you have money, the teachers and schools and infrastructure simply did not exist

how an earth was mandela suppose to magically create quality teachers with quality schools overnight where in most countries it took took decades if not hundreds of years to create their education system?

i really dont get the private central bank thing, my intuition tells me that the main purpose of the central bank is to regulate the currency, its not to spread the wealth, its neither her nor there whether its private, but im open to new information on the issue

I don't really get where you are going with this. Are you saying its a hopeless situation? Because I don't know how you believe that parents are to blame and then believe the situation will get better if people still aren't being educated properly.

I am not expert on central banks, but if regulate a currency then you can manipulate it for gain. Why would you want that in the hands of a private company who goal is to make money? I know you are Mr. capitalist and all, but expecting a private company to perform duties that are in the best interest of the country as a whole doesn't even sound logical.
 

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not adding to the discussion but the BBC did a small piece on his last days in jail in the Days that Shook the World series



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I don't really get where you are going with this. Are you saying its a hopeless situation? Because I don't know how you believe that parents are to blame and then believe the situation will get better if people still aren't being educated properly.

I am not expert on central banks, but if regulate a currency then you can manipulate it for gain. Why would you want that in the hands of a private company who goal is to make money? I know you are Mr. capitalist and all, but expecting a private company to perform duties that are in the best interest of the country as a whole doesn't even sound logical.

I'm not saying its hopeless at all, the assertion was made that Mandela sold out and then a bunch of stats were laid out about inequalities that supposedly proved that Mandela sold out

The point I'm making is that inequalities in SA would have existed anyway and that the cause of the wealth gap is caused by the knowledge gap, and that the knowledge gap would take decades to correct, so Mandela was not a sellout and SA is not a failure

I was just breaking down why the education system in SA is failing and pointing out what needs to be addressed, as opposed to simply saying education is not good or making blasphemous accusations against the Gawd

If you break down the root causes of the problems in education then you can address the problem, that's all I was doing. What are your suggestions on how to fix the education problems?

And again I am not aware of anything nefarious going on with the SA central bank, if there are please enlighten me, your accusations seem generic and superficial
 
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