How long until Mike D'Antoni gets fired as coach of the Lakers?

[No_bammer_weed]

They wont need to fire him --- hes gunna quit just like he did in NY and Phx.

Its finna get hot out 'chea, and Antoni doest have a racist NY media to blame it all on the "thug, diva, low-iq, lazy, and selfish" blacky mc meanie Carmelo Anthony this time around. Nobody is turning on Kobe.

 

[OG Talk]

Okay.. You're startin to piss me off now

 

[mbewane]

They wont need to fire him --- hes gunna quit just like he did in NY and Phx.

Its finna get hot out 'chea, and Antoni doest have a racist NY media to blame it all on the "thug, diva, low-iq, lazy, and selfish" blacky mc meanie Carmelo Anthony this time around. Nobody is turning on Kobe.

He blamed Melo but no one really cared about what he was saying at that point...and Knicks fans were rooting for him to leave anyway

 

[HiphopRelated]

10 games under .500...in other words Christmas

 

[Rev]

Is there a buyout clause at all in D'Antoni's contract?

But he ain't leaving & they ain't firing him. He was miserable in NY from day 1, and he never voluntarily. He's gonna want to get all of his money & he also knows that if he fails in LA, as well, he's finished.

We'll see what happens when they're healthy.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

He blamed Melo but no one really cared about what he was saying at that point...and Knicks fans were rooting for him to leave anyway

A sizable portion of knick fans were on the side of Walsh/Dantoni/Lin/Gallo etc, and they still are. The narrative became the hard working non-black, anti thug team that was on the way to a championship, before the melo-diva ruined it all. Even tho all these guys werent together at once, Melo was positioned as the common denominator that pushed them all out. Pure race.

 

[23Barrettcity]

not until mike brown gets hired somewhere, no way buss gonna be paying 2 coaches salary he aint roman abrimohovitch.

its funny the only excuse dantoni has is wait till nash comes back, like a 38 year old brittle pg whose crappy defensively, nor has the stamina to play major minutes anymore will lead the lakers to the promsie land

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@His_Excellence_Reincar he pulled the same thing with the Knicks last year. If not for linsanity he was going to ride toney Douglas who was atrocious until bAron Davis came back which means the season would of been a waste . The guy milks excuses and throws players under the bus to the extreme . He's only about keeping his job

 

[mbewane]

A sizable portion of knick fans were on the side of Walsh/Dantoni/Lin/Gallo etc, and they still are. The narrative became the hard working non-black, anti thug team that was on the way to a championship, before the melo-diva ruined it all. Even tho all these guys werent together at once, Melo was positioned as the common denominator that pushed them all out. Pure race.

I guess we didn't hear teh same stuff then, a lot us of were for Walsh to stay because he was level-headed and TURNED THE TEAM AROUND after the Isiah dark ages, and he was planning on getting Melo in free agency but Dolan panicked and sent half the starting five to get Melo. And that team (Gallo, Felton, Mozgov, Fields, Amare) was the first in a decade that was getting results and was entertaining. That's why people were siding with Walsh and "against" Melo, we felt we gave up too much, too early...and for a player that wouldn't mesh with Amar'e. (That's still an issue NOW, but the other way around as it's clear it's Melo's team now).

The Lin situation is your good-old "rags-to-riches" story, so of course Melo being out at some point during the stretch rasied the question of "what happens when he comes back" and "can they co-exist"...which happens eveytime Ama're (black) is out. Plus it's the Knicks, so extra attention is given to everything.

And tbh on this board or in real life, I don't remember ANY Knick fan that was rooting for 'Antoni.

Melo has always been under scrutiny because of his status, but all I'm hearing this year is high praise Plus this "non-black, anti thug team" agenda that you say exists doesn't make sense, look at our current team: two ex-Denver Thuggets, Sheeeeeeed, Kurt Thomas wacking people in the paint, Felt' playing with a HUGE chip on his shoulder, Shump' dropping freestyles...and we're winning, which is all that everyone cares about. But if you want to see race in everything, do you

 

[No_bammer_weed]

I guess we didn't hear teh same stuff then, a lot us of were for Walsh to stay because he was level-headed and TURNED THE TEAM AROUND after the Isiah dark ages, and he was planning on getting Melo in free agency but Dolan panicked and sent half the starting five to get Melo. And that team (Gallo, Felton, Mozgov, Fields, Amare) was the first in a decade that was getting results and was entertaining. That's why people were siding with Walsh and "against" Melo, we felt we gave up too much, too early...and for a player that wouldn't mesh with Amar'e. (That's still an issue NOW, but the other way around as it's clear it's Melo's team now).

The Lin situation is your good-old "rags-to-riches" story, so of course Melo being out at some point during the stretch rasied the question of "what happens when he comes back" and "can they co-exist"...which happens eveytime Ama're (black) is out. Plus it's the Knicks, so extra attention is given to everything.

And tbh on this board or in real life, I don't remember ANY Knick fan that was rooting for 'Antoni.

Melo has always been under scrutiny because of his status, but all I'm hearing this year is high praise Plus this "non-black, anti thug team" agenda that you say exists doesn't make sense, look at our current team: two ex-Denver Thuggets, Sheeeeeeed, Kurt Thomas wacking people in the paint, Felt' playing with a HUGE chip on his shoulder, Shump' dropping freestyles...and we're winning, which is all that everyone cares about. But if you want to see race in everything, do you

1) walsh is a good guy, but if you analyze move for move his transaction history in NY, he was quite mediocre. From drafting, to hiring D'antoni to trades (gave up Zbo/Crawford/Lee for nothing) to his objective in bringing in two major free agents. Failure -- and he had far more to work with than Isiah upon arrival. Grumwald turned around NY, not Walsh.

2) Why did you just label Melo and J.R thugs (the denver thuggets)? Race isnt a factor, huh?

3) Why is Lin a rags-to-riches story when he grew up upper middle class, while a majority of NBA players emerged from poverty? And that still doesnt satisfy the racist meta narratives used in favor of non-black players (automatically assumed smart, hard working, good teammate) versus black players (selfish, low IQ, innate ability, etc), that was coursing through the "excitement" over Lin v Melo.

4) Dolan never "panicked" that Gallo/Moz/Wilson team was trash. Thats the debate here --- NY white fans overrated them because they were excited by great white hopes. That team was only a couple of games over .500, and that was completely owed to Amare playing out of his mind at an MVP level. Take him out the equation, and thats a lottery team, and thats a reality that Melo has had to deal with since his arrival. No Amare. Thats whats sick about racism. White people can be mediocre, and still be revered. Melo is superb and superior in every way, and is begrudgingly accepted.

 

[obarth]

It really depends on if the organization cares about the heat and outrage they're gonna get from the fanbase. They're gonna let Antoni get some time with Nash on the floor to see if that turns the team around. If that doesn't work then the fanbase will be incensed. Now if the team cares more about that than saving face, they'll give Phil Jackson a blank check and try to salvage their season.

1) walsh is a good guy, but if you analyze move for move his transaction history in NY, he was quite mediocre. From drafting, to hiring D'antoni to trades (gave up Zbo/Crawford/Lee for nothing) to his objective in bringing in two major free agents. Failure -- and he had far more to work with than Isiah upon arrival. Grumwald turned around NY, not Walsh.

2) Why did you just label Melo and J.R thugs (the denver thuggets)? Race isnt a factor, huh?

3) Why is Lin a rags-to-riches story when he grew up upper middle class, while a majority of NBA players emerged from poverty? And that still doesnt satisfy the racist meta narratives used in favor of non-black players (automatically assumed smart, hard working, good teammate) versus black players (selfish, low IQ, innate ability, etc), that was coursing through the "excitement" over Lin v Melo.

4) Dolan never "panicked" that Gallo/Moz/Wilson team was trash. Thats the debate here --- NY white fans overrated them because they were excited by great white hopes. That team was only a couple of games over .500, and that was completely owed to Amare playing out of his mind at an MVP level. Take him out the equation, and thats a lottery team, and thats a reality that Melo has had to deal with since his arrival. No Amare. Thats whats sick about racism. White people can be mediocre, and still be revered. Melo is superb and superior in every way, and is begrudgingly accepted.

This is too much realness this early in the morning, nikka. I haven't even had breakfast yet.

 

[Loose]

I dont know when, but i do know the lakers need to have a full on reset, ask kobe/nash to retire, trade/amnesty pau, get rid of MWP and build from there.

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

Realistically, Jim Buss should fire himself for not accepting Phil Jackson's demands. But Mike will most likely quit as based on his past recent history.

 

[obarth]

I dont know when, but i do know the lakers need to have a full on reset, ask kobe/nash to retire, trade/amnesty pau, get rid of MWP and build from there.

I agree, but I feel like that's one of a handful of teams in sports that's never really allowed to truly rebuild tho.

 

[mbewane]

1) walsh is a good guy, but if you analyze move for move his transaction history in NY, he was quite mediocre. From drafting, to hiring D'antoni to trades (gave up Zbo/Crawford/Lee for nothing) to his objective in bringing in two major free agents. Failure -- and he had far more to work with than Isiah upon arrival. Grumwald turned around NY, not Walsh.

2) Why did you just label Melo and J.R thugs (the denver thuggets)? Race isnt a factor, huh?

3) Why is Lin a rags-to-riches story when he grew up upper middle class, while a majority of NBA players emerged from poverty? And that still doesnt satisfy the racist meta narratives used in favor of non-black players (automatically assumed smart, hard working, good teammate) versus black players (selfish, low IQ, innate ability, etc), that was coursing through the "excitement" over Lin v Melo.

4) Dolan never "panicked" that Gallo/Moz/Wilson team was trash. Thats the debate here --- NY white fans overrated them because they were excited by great white hopes. That team was only a couple of games over .500, and that was completely owed to Amare playing out of his mind at an MVP level. Take him out the equation, and thats a lottery team, and thats a reality that Melo has had to deal with since his arrival. No Amare. Thats whats sick about racism. White people can be mediocre, and still be revered. Melo is superb and superior in every way, and is begrudgingly accepted.

1) I can't see how anything after Isiah can be deemed "mediocre" breh, that's intellectually impossible. So maybe it was Grunwald who turned it around, I'll give you that, but it still stands that we wanted to keep some semblance of stability when we finally turned the corner. It could've been whoever in the management, we would've wanted to keep him after those years.

2) It's a nickname taht was going around, you mean you never heard it before? And it included Birdman, why you gotta see race everywhere.

3) I put "rags-to-riches" between "" because I KNOW DAMN WELL IT ISNT ONE come on I don't need to re-write the whole narrative for you? Harvard, dropped from two teams, gets a shot when the team (the KNICKS! at the GARDEN!) is going badly and only gets to play because of injuries, torches one team after the next and drops 38 on the goddamn Lakers...so of course it's a huge story...and do you actually watch the games now? Almost every single commentator (Knicks and from other teams) is talking about how the team now has a "high basketball IQ", "plays with poise", "together", "works hard"...I guess that's all thanks to Prigioni and Novak huh? (spoiler: it isn't. They're talking about Sheed, JR, Melo, Felton, Chandler...yeah, basically the whole damn team...and yeah, Black guys).

4) That team was just above .500...whic was FAR BETTER than whatever team Isiah had out there...what did Jamal Crawforfd, Z-Bo, Steph, Steve Francis, Eddy Curry bring to the team? NOTHING. So of course as soon as the team starts playing well, it's "revered". What do you expect fans to do after a drought? Or is it racist to boo an underachieving team that happens to have black players and cheer a good and entertaining squad that happens to have a whopping amount of TWO white players in the starting five people were cheering for Will the Thrill and didn't care one bit he got caught with weed in Queens, Nate the Great, Amar'e, Fields...they're white too huh?

And you casually leave out what doesn't fit in your narrative. David Lee was part of the team that was on the come up, but as soon as the plan to get Amar'e was out no one cared about him anymore. For all his fukk-ups, Nate Robinson was one the most liked players and was receiving big applauses when coming back at teh Garden.

If Melo was "bedrugingly accepted", it's only because we expected MORE from him, and we were right to: the way he's playing this year is what we hoped for. If anything Amar'e is "bedrugingly accepted" by some (myself included) NY fans.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

They wont need to fire him --- hes gunna quit just like he did in NY and Phx.

Its finna get hot out 'chea, and Antoni doest have a racist NY media to blame it all on the "thug, diva, low-iq, lazy, and selfish" blacky mc meanie Carmelo Anthony this time around. Nobody is turning on Kobe.

I'm sayin, I didn't fukk with him with the sons, 'melo my nikka so I hate how he scapegoated him and tried to ride that shytty Linsanity wave, the fact that he coaches my team now really is a tough pill to swallow. This is the season from hell...