How does Russia have more nukes then us?

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They both do and don't.

The actual number of deployable nuclear weapons the Russian Federation has is ~1500. Their total number is around 6000, but that includes nukes in reserve, and nukes that are in the process of being dismantled or ready to be dismantled.

The U.S. has reported about 1800 active deployable nuclear weapons, with about ~5500 including nukes in reserve, being dismantled, or in the process of being dismantled.

Both the U.S.'s and the USSR's peak nuke stockpile were above 30k.
 

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I’ve read majority of them aren’t even operational
 

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Google for "missile gap" Mostly a BS stat because the Russians count ancient rockets they don't even think are able to leave the silos.
 

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If you have ~200 nukes you can pretty much decimate more than half the world, that goes to include the ones that get shot down.
 

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I doubt you're shooting down an MIRV :francis:

Pretty much.

shyt, last year China fired a hypersonic missile that went around the world and hit a target, back in China.



There ain't a chance anybody is shooting down modern nukes once they start flying.

Additionally, the second somebody fires one of these things and it hits the soil on another nuclear power there are going to be return volleys exchanged by both or multiple countries that absolutely decimates each other.

Literally all countries involved would be gone within hours of nukes hitting. China's leader even said with the capabilities today they can level a country within minutes of the order given.

Additionally, given all their intel via cyber and traditional espionage, Russia and their allies China, North Korea, Iran, etc. probably have a really good idea of the capabilities NATO has combined (including the U.S) and are simply not scared. No way they'd be flexing on Ukraine and the rest of NATO the way they are if they knew they'd be knocked on their ass.
 
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Pretty much.

shyt, last year China fired a hypersonic missile that went around the world and hit a target, back in China.



There ain't a chance anybody is shooting down modern nukes once they start flying.

Additionally, the second somebody fires one of these things and it hits the soil on another nuclear power there are going to be return volleys exchanged by both or multiple countries that absolutely decimates each other.

Literally all countries involved would be gone within hours of nukes hitting. China's leader even said with the capabilities today they can level a country within minutes of the order given.

Additionally, given all their intel via cyber and traditional espionage, Russia and their allies China, North Korea, Iran, etc. probably have a really good idea of the capabilities NATO has combined (including the U.S) and are simply not scared. No way they'd be flexing on Ukraine and the rest of NATO the way they are if they knew they'd be knocked on their ass.


Flexing :mjlol:
 

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How do we know they really have that much? They lie about everything
This war has proven much of their strength projection is pure bullshyt but I still believe they have the nukes they say they do. It’s probably less expensive to have a bunch of nukes than it is to complete with US military spending, maintain a legit army, etc.
 

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Pretty much.

shyt, last year China fired a hypersonic missile that went around the world and hit a target, back in China.



There ain't a chance anybody is shooting down modern nukes once they start flying.

Additionally, the second somebody fires one of these things and it hits the soil on another nuclear power there are going to be return volleys exchanged by both or multiple countries that absolutely decimates each other.

Literally all countries involved would be gone within hours of nukes hitting. China's leader even said with the capabilities today they can level a country within minutes of the order given.

Additionally, given all their intel via cyber and traditional espionage, Russia and their allies China, North Korea, Iran, etc. probably have a really good idea of the capabilities NATO has combined (including the U.S) and are simply not scared. No way they'd be flexing on Ukraine and the rest of NATO the way they are if they knew they'd be knocked on their ass.


I think the whole hypersonic weapons threat is a hoax, just another CMIC boogieman to get the US to pay for another $100 billion boondoggle



Start at 11:30 for just the weapons part
 
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I think the whole hypersonic weapons threat is a hoax, just another CMIC boogieman to get the US to pay for another $100 billion boondoggle



Start at 11:30 for just the weapons part


My thing though is why would Putin and Xi both place high emphasis on it though, especially in their speeches as real threats? Putin even said specifically if a country interferes they'll be seeing what hypersonics can do.

Their flights and tests I think are exposed to public report indicating their tech works to spec and is as advertised.

Additionally, especially as far as defense goes, you'd want to overestimate what your opponents may have rather than underestimate. If they make a claim (which that video was posted before the China around the world test and Russia actually deploying hypersonics vs Ukraine) you got to respect and gameplan for it.

Most people especially are somewhat familiar with how much the U.S spends on military vs other countries so our tech should be equal, however we got to remember China and Russia combined have ~20 bases around the world? The United States has I think over 200, which costs exponentially more to maintain, while those countries can use the defense budget for research and tech instead.

That said, somebody put it great on reddit (maybe they were quoting a U.S general): hypersonics are not a defensive talking point intended to let countries know you shouldn't mess with them and therefore should keep respect between countries. If anything they add more tension to peace because it is a show of "we can hit you easy" and purely an offensive system.
 
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