How does Nas have a reputation of a bad ear for beats, but also got Illmatic under his belt?

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Damn nikka wtf you mad at me for I answered the question unlike everybody else tf?
nobody mad but you just googled the EP, same thing I did. I need someone who really knows whats what to answer the question.
 

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Got more heat in the late 90s for rhyming over them synthetic Dame Grease style beats that every other mainstream NY rapper was rhyming over, but that's the story of his career. Different standard.

2001-2008 he had a real contrarian approach to beat selection. A lot of stripped back or weird beats. Especially when that Kanye and Heatmakerz bombastic chipmunk soul was in, Nas was making tracks like these. A lot of his songs was totally out of step with what was hot. Mostly down to 2004-2008. Inconsistent point in his career and he probably tried too hard to go against trends.

Funny though because all he had to do to make fans appreciate Salaam Remi was stop working with him



 

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nobody mad but you just googled the EP, same thing I did. I need someone who really knows whats what to answer the question.

I just google WHO was the executive producer for Illmatic. But I already knew the role of an EP. Damn you miserable
 

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Illmatic and his stuff with Hitboy are collaborative efforts in a way.

The producers played a major part in the creative process just as much as he did and that's why those albums stood out sonically.

If he's left to his own devices he can pick garbage beats because to him the instrumental is just a basic canvas for him to rap over
 
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I don’t like a some of the choices from I am or Nastradamus, but it’s his choice of canvas to lay his paint.

What may sound good in his ear may sound like trash to us. Maybe it could be a situation like Jordan who’s the greatest basketball player of all time, but is a terrible GM/Coach.

I just try to appreciate him as an artist and the stuff I DO like
 
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Every rapper has a knock or two that under a microscope is bullshyt.

Nas NEVER had a bad ear for beats. You don't sell over 30 Million records worldwide with bad beat picking.

Nas, by his own admission, went left sonically after Stillmatic. He doubled down on Boom Bap when the popular sound was The Neptunes, Scott Storch, and the South coming up with Lil Jon. Funny thing is Nas worked with all of them during the time, just not on his own albums. He drew for Alchemist before Alch was a household name. He put Ron Browz on the map (Ether) He did some INCREDIBLE work with Salaam Remi (Who was basically his Just Blaze) and this was only a two album cycle (Gods Son/Streets Disciple) by the time Nas signed with Def Jam he was back working with the quote unquote top producers of the era (Kanye West, Dr Dre, Will I Am, and Stargate all did production on Hip Hop Is Dead) Salaam only has one beat apiece on HHID and Untitled, and by the time Life Is Good came around, Salaam was seen as a prestige producer who crafted classics for legends like Nas, Sade, and Amy Whinehouse. His beats were NEVER wack, maybe unorthodox, but only from the standpoint of attempting to update the classic New York Boom Bap sound, which again, by the time Life Is Good dropped, everyone was embracing.
 

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I don’t like a some of the choices from I am or Nastradamus, but it’s his choice of canvas to lay his paint.

What may sound good in his ear may sound like trash to us. Maybe it could be a situation like Jordan who’s the greatest basketball player of all time, but is a terrible GM/Coach.

I just try to appreciate him as an artist and the stuff I DO like
yeah i'm not saying he didn't make any bad beat choices in his career, i'm just confused how illmatic worked out impeccably in my opinion then shyt stopped working out for him. i also think once he got that rep people started shytting on some of his beat choices unfairly.

like was it someone else making the choices for that album
 

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Now wait a gotdamn minute @Reptile and @Paper Boi! I’m only here to instigate, not mediate! I haven’t taken the certified coli subforum conflict resolution and de-escalation course. I can only make this worse with subtle nudges and

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