Myrical Lyfe
In the Gutter, of the Tunnel
It's all for the love of music. No one's forcing you to do it
How does it feel having all these hardware,DAW and vst and making no money?
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Aje
All Madden
they ain't tryina hear us, though.
KillSpray
Don't be mad
Yeah I should have made the last line
That feeling when you make a dope beat: priceless
This is the truth right here.
If you don't have that deep undying love for anything that is of an artistic nature (musical production, poetry, rapping, drawing, etc..) first, then all the grind in the world ain't gonna change shyt cuz as soon as you hit a few road blocks or things seem like they're taking forever you'll give up and lose interest.
Aje
All Madden
Once you start talking money then you've clearly crossed the line into the music business side of things. At that point, you either have to adopt a business mindset re: your craft, which, frankly, most music cats ain't ready to do because this transition makes them uncomfortable, or hire/acquire a manager of sorts.
Generally, most, if not all, businesses requires some sort of initially investment. The investment usually comes in the form of money, time, and knowledge of the trade. We've all heard the phrase, "it takes money to make money" and it's absolutely correct. You need to put into your business to get something out of it.
Bottom line: if you heard a faint rumor there was dope sneakers coming out of Oregon, but never seen or heard about them, it doesn't matter how fly they are. Nike wouldn't be sh*t without marketing and endorsements.
Generally, most, if not all, businesses requires some sort of initially investment. The investment usually comes in the form of money, time, and knowledge of the trade. We've all heard the phrase, "it takes money to make money" and it's absolutely correct. You need to put into your business to get something out of it.
Bottom line: if you heard a faint rumor there was dope sneakers coming out of Oregon, but never seen or heard about them, it doesn't matter how fly they are. Nike wouldn't be sh*t without marketing and endorsements.
Myrical Lyfe
In the Gutter, of the Tunnel
And you literally do this
Ive spent over 2000$ on my little setup, and I've only been doing this for about 6 months. But i love it, and don't see quitting anytime soon.
I really love music that's why I take it as serious as I do.
if I make 20 dope beats and I have a family counting on me, and I tell them I'm sorry yall We don't have money for food right now but starve a little longer we'll hit the big time soon its all well and good? I can't continue to make beats because I love it without a care in the world. I do believe you have to have love for it before anything else but it's different when this is how you start making your living.
I have to reiterate a lot of people think that they are just going to make dope beats and people will find you eventually, no it never works like that. We all start out loving music and we all start out wanting to get to the next level. wanting to get paid for our work. That switch takes a lot of sacrifice and commitment it won't just come to you. You have to create that. It doesn't matter what level you are on.
Teachers Teach--->They love it but would they teach for absolutely nothing? I mean the wages are low already but can you imagine going through all of that schooling to receive nothing? For many people it just isn't love, this is how they feed their families. It's easy to talk about love when there is no money involved but the second money is involved tell me you won't try to get to that next level doing something you dreamed about your whole life.
Do it for the love yes
but also have a means of marketing and promoting yourself to put yourself in a better position in the future. I never think about quitting never for a second, this is what I'm going to be doing for life.
if I make 20 dope beats and I have a family counting on me, and I tell them I'm sorry yall We don't have money for food right now but starve a little longer we'll hit the big time soon its all well and good? I can't continue to make beats because I love it without a care in the world. I do believe you have to have love for it before anything else but it's different when this is how you start making your living.
I have to reiterate a lot of people think that they are just going to make dope beats and people will find you eventually, no it never works like that. We all start out loving music and we all start out wanting to get to the next level. wanting to get paid for our work. That switch takes a lot of sacrifice and commitment it won't just come to you. You have to create that. It doesn't matter what level you are on.
Teachers Teach--->They love it but would they teach for absolutely nothing? I mean the wages are low already but can you imagine going through all of that schooling to receive nothing? For many people it just isn't love, this is how they feed their families. It's easy to talk about love when there is no money involved but the second money is involved tell me you won't try to get to that next level doing something you dreamed about your whole life.
Do it for the love yes
but also have a means of marketing and promoting yourself to put yourself in a better position in the future. I never think about quitting never for a second, this is what I'm going to be doing for life.
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Aje
All Madden
One could argue if you're really bout that music life, then money is essential to maintaining that love of creating music.
If a dude works a ten hour shift, six days a week as a security guard or washing dishes (I ain't hating, I've done the latter) it's sooo difficult to find time to sit down and bang out tracks. There are only so many hours in a week - and the older you get, sleep is at a premium, too.
However, if you're making a comfortable living off of music, then you're obviously spending a lot more time with the craft, getting better, learning more, which, in turn, gives you a higher probability at making more money off of music.
I don't know where this "sell out" bull sh*t came from, but let's dead that. You only get better at something if you're allotted an ample amount of time to practice it. When you have to support yourself through other means, you have LESS time for music, and it slows your rate of improvement. Don't get it twisted, y'all: back in the late 18th century, best believe cats like Mozart and Haydn were getting paid for their work. Granted, Mozart was a prodigy, but he wasn't doing that sh*t for free. Most of these classical and romantic era composers had sponsors like Kings and Princes that paid them to write.
Being the starving artist is lame.
If a dude works a ten hour shift, six days a week as a security guard or washing dishes (I ain't hating, I've done the latter) it's sooo difficult to find time to sit down and bang out tracks. There are only so many hours in a week - and the older you get, sleep is at a premium, too.
However, if you're making a comfortable living off of music, then you're obviously spending a lot more time with the craft, getting better, learning more, which, in turn, gives you a higher probability at making more money off of music.
I don't know where this "sell out" bull sh*t came from, but let's dead that. You only get better at something if you're allotted an ample amount of time to practice it. When you have to support yourself through other means, you have LESS time for music, and it slows your rate of improvement. Don't get it twisted, y'all: back in the late 18th century, best believe cats like Mozart and Haydn were getting paid for their work. Granted, Mozart was a prodigy, but he wasn't doing that sh*t for free. Most of these classical and romantic era composers had sponsors like Kings and Princes that paid them to write.
Being the starving artist is lame.
Myrical Lyfe
In the Gutter, of the Tunnel
Marketing and knowing is Def a lot. I can't even count how many times I'll be listening to a mixtape, or even album, and hear a beat that is just not on the same level. That right there shows its not just skill.
i dont like it
@Aje and @producingfire with that truth
I've only recently (birth of my son) gotten the drive to really push on the networking, relationship building, grinding aspect to everything
I really hope I get selected for this battle in Toronto as it would be a big motivator for me
I'm having a hard time picking 3 beats for submission that I think would have someone like
and pick me for the tournament.
That's the hardest part for me, deciding what to let people hear and what not to hear
I've only recently (birth of my son) gotten the drive to really push on the networking, relationship building, grinding aspect to everything
I really hope I get selected for this battle in Toronto as it would be a big motivator for me
I'm having a hard time picking 3 beats for submission that I think would have someone like
and pick me for the tournament.That's the hardest part for me, deciding what to let people hear and what not to hear
its easy to get your beats out there, but what really matters is how good they are. All these people talking about marketing are all wrong, producers dont market rappers market producers just send beats to people and hope they like them. trust me, if your beats are good enough you can easily get in the industry. 2 months ago i was asking the same questions as yall, now im collabing with artists signed to grand hustle and good music
the question is how did the beats go from your possession to their ears?
Aje
All Madden
the definition of marketing is "the action or business of promoting and selling products or services" That's what getting these rappers to buy your product is, fam. Part of that is making the potential buyer aware of your product. I'm using a more formal term for "getting your name out there" or "hustlin'." It's the same thing.
Congrats on the new relationships, btw.