How do you feel about Angie Martinez stating that she has a 2 hour interview with 2pac

[CrossBones]

That doesn't make sense at all. If Pac genuinely wanted to air anything out, he had multiple venues to do so. Even the interview with Sway.

Im a huge Pac fan, and if you know the history, and everything that was going on, its almost a guarantee he wasn't dissing Snoop. Or why else would they have gone to the MTV awards together, after the Angie interview. It wasn't going to be about Hov, because he was barley on the radar. Pac was just going after anyone who was clearly hanging with Big.

As much as I love 2pac, he was so erratic during that time. Too much of a live wire. If anything was said, it was probably more subtle hints on Jimmy and Haitian Jack, and some offensive comments towards Bad Boy.

I'm not so upset with Angie not airing the entire thing during that time, even as a Pac fan. Its easy to see her point of view, being from the East Coast and being so young. Pac was probably just hollering and yelling, insulting people, with an IGAF attitude. Things were really on edge at that time, she was avoiding becoming the spark for something to happen.

he called out jay z on more than one song, so chances are he was well on his radar. chino xl got dissed, so its not like pac was pretending that people didnt exist. second, we dont know what he felt like saying on a new york show about new york artists that day. as for snoop, for all we know he DID say something about him, but later squashed it (like he had done several times before with other people). when he got back up with nas he squashed it, it still didnt stop pac from calling him out before that.

we dont know what he said, and thats more or less the point of this thread. all we know is that to this day, angie is still censoring him like it was all just too much to let go out there, like there is still something unheard of in the interview. which might be the case. pac was a hot head and had a big mouth, because the shyt he said one day, might have been something he would have kept to himself the next day.

all I could think of about the interview being censored, is that pac said some shyt that was going to get powerful people/friends of angie mad, and its effects could have done something to paint someone in a different light. so she stopped it

 

[Bolzmark]

I made a thread in the Higher Learning Forum about Journalism vs Gossip...

Angie answer is why I believe that journalists are just professional gossipers...In general, I really have LITTLE respect for that profession...

How you gone hold back a 2 hour honest and unadulterated opinion of arguably the GOAT rapper to have ever done it in our lifetime, based on your personal opinion...?

Stupid decision...

Suppose she released the interview back then and Pac said something to ignite the flames even more than they already were? I remember the climate back then. Shyt was HOSTILE to say the least. I can understand her view. I also understand that although she may not be an upper echelon journalist, she is still acting as one, and there are some rules she should abide by.

Its all long over with now so she needs to release the whole thing.

 

[Bolzmark]

Pac never said they did... he said they knew about it. The dude who said jimmy setup pac, he called out puffy too. They all were connected so what dude said in his post was true, it eventually came to light

Actually when it first happened, he accused BIG and Puff of being involved. Later on he changed it to they knew who had done it.

 

[Roovers410]

Pac blaming biggie for the quad shooting is the most stupid thing in hiphop ever....the 2 greatest rappers would still be here if it wasnt for that shooting.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Actually when it first happened, he accused BIG and Puff of being involved. Later on he changed it to they knew who had done it.

And what is the difference...?

E-40 knew people wanted to harm Biggie and Puff...E-40 stopped them from doing so...

Biggie and Puffy knew dudes wanted to harm Pac, and Pac still got got....

Even worse, 2Pac steps out that elevator and he sees his so called friends being buddy with the dude who ordered the hit...

Put yourself in Pac's shoes, and tell me you wouldn't be suspicious of such friends...

I am NOT saying Pac was right or wrong...

All I am saying is that I understand his point of view, but I also understand Biggie's point view...Biggie was NO D.Rose, so Pac shouldn't have expected Biggie to ride for him...

2Pac was DELUSIONAL thinking Biggie was about that action...

 

[spliz]

And what is the difference...?

E-40 knew people wanted to harm Biggie and Puff...E-40 stopped them from doing so...

Biggie and Puffy knew dudes wanted to harm Pac, and Pac still got got....

Even worse, 2Pac steps out that elevator and he sees his so called friends being buddy with the dude who ordered the hit...

Put yourself in Pac's shoes, and tell me you wouldn't be suspicious of such friends...

I am NOT saying Pac was right or wrong...

All I am saying is that I understand his point of view, but I also understand Biggie's point view...Biggie was NO D.Rose, so Pac shouldn't have expected Biggie to ride for him...

2Pac was DELUSIONAL thinking Biggie was about that action...

PAC said it out his own mouth that he didn't want Biggie to snitch on who did it.. He didn't even want Biggie to ride or anything..only thing he was mad at Biggie for is not sayin nothin to him knowing what was bout to take place..not warning him not to be there...

 

[DANJ!]

And what is the difference...?

E-40 knew people wanted to harm Biggie and Puff...E-40 stopped them from doing so...

Biggie and Puffy knew dudes wanted to harm Pac, and Pac still got got....

Even worse, 2Pac steps out that elevator and he sees his so called friends being buddy with the dude who ordered the hit...

Put yourself in Pac's shoes, and tell me you wouldn't be suspicious of such friends...

I am NOT saying Pac was right or wrong...

All I am saying is that I understand his point of view, but I also understand Biggie's point view...Biggie was NO D.Rose, so Pac shouldn't have expected Biggie to ride for him...

2Pac was DELUSIONAL thinking Biggie was about that action...

E-40 "knew people wanted to harm them"? Bruh... when that shyt happened, 40 was the one who set it up, and he called it off. Not the same. You think if it was some street nikkas in Cali who were over 40's head, he coulda gotten involved in that? You think if it was the Bloods or Crips who wanted to get him, 40 coulda intervened?

And Jimmy Henchmen wasn't at the studio, so I don't know where u got this image of Biggie and Puffy laughin and slappin' fives with him when Pac got off the elevator.

Point is, Pac was told by not one good friend of his, but TWO of 'em that Henchmen & Haitian Jack were bad news. He, bein' who he was, made his own decision to roll with them. And then when shyt went bad, only then did he distance himself from them. Being who they were, they took it as disrespect, and took it upon themselves to set him up. To think that just because Big and Puff are cool with Henchmen they knew is bogus. You really think Henchmen sat around with them and discussed his plans, like he had to clear it with them first? He didn't give a fukk, the same thing woulda happened to them if they had fallen out. Henchmen planned it cause it's what he wanted to do. I doubt he cared to tell anyone else.

 

[thewave]

E-40 "knew people wanted to harm them"? Bruh... when that shyt happened, 40 was the one who set it up, and he called it off. Not the same. You think if it was some street nikkas in Cali who were over 40's head, he coulda gotten involved in that? You think if it was the Bloods or Crips who wanted to get him, 40 coulda intervened?

And Jimmy Henchmen wasn't at the studio, so I don't know where u got this image of Biggie and Puffy laughin and slappin' fives with him when Pac got off the elevator.

Point is, Pac was told by not one good friend of his, but TWO of 'em that Henchmen & Haitian Jack were bad news. He, bein' who he was, made his own decision to roll with them. And then when shyt went bad, only then did he distance himself from them. Being who they were, they took it as disrespect, and took it upon themselves to set him up. To think that just because Big and Puff are cool with Henchmen they knew is bogus. You really think Henchmen sat around with them and discussed his plans, like he had to clear it with them first? He didn't give a fukk, the same thing woulda happened to them if they had fallen out. Henchmen planned it cause it's what he wanted to do. I doubt he cared to tell anyone else.

Pac didnt run with henchman nor tut. He ran with jack and jack didn't set him up, son got on some snitchin shyt as he always has in his life and pac was found guilty. The reason he didnt sign with bad boy cause ppl told him not to and he didnt, so he did listen. whether big knew or not, who knows. puffy knew though so keep tryna convince yourself that he didnt. pac was told in jail what happened and who was who and it was the TRUTH

 

[Scotch Hall]

"I have interviewed the President, and I'm actually more excited to interview you"


lyin ass, thirsty ass nikka tryna get some of that latina heat

ohh shyt my dude said sway trying to get that latina heat

 

[Bolzmark]

And what is the difference...?

E-40 knew people wanted to harm Biggie and Puff...E-40 stopped them from doing so...

Biggie and Puffy knew dudes wanted to harm Pac, and Pac still got got....

Even worse, 2Pac steps out that elevator and he sees his so called friends being buddy with the dude who ordered the hit...

Put yourself in Pac's shoes, and tell me you wouldn't be suspicious of such friends...

I am NOT saying Pac was right or wrong...

All I am saying is that I understand his point of view, but I also understand Biggie's point view...Biggie was NO D.Rose, so Pac shouldn't have expected Biggie to ride for him...

2Pac was DELUSIONAL thinking Biggie was about that action...

What's the difference? You mean between you actually setting me up to be shot, or sometime afterwards you find out who actually did it? And my understanding is that Pac got a call soon after from those responsible so he knew what he accused BIG of knowing. There was no indication ever that BIG knew BEFOREHAND that this was going to happen. Jimmy Henchman was in the business. He knew ALL these dudes.

Anyway, this shooting is probably the darkest moment in hip hop history when you consider everything that happened afterward. And to think it may be the fault of just one man...

 

[nineteeneightysix]

What's the difference? You mean between you actually setting me up to be shot, or sometime afterwards you find out who actually did it? And my understanding is that Pac got a call soon after from those responsible so he knew what he accused BIG of knowing. There was no indication ever that BIG knew BEFOREHAND that this was going to happen. Jimmy Henchman was in the business. He knew ALL these dudes.
Anyway, this shooting is probably the darkest moment in hip hop history when you consider everything that happened afterward. And to think it may be the fault of just one man...

Biggie DIDN'T ride for 2Pac, and that was ALWAYS 2Pac's issue with Biggie...2Pac said it in MULTIPLE interviews...When some Wu Tang boys got robbed out West, 2Pac made sure the issue was dealt with, because 2Pac felt responsible, since the Wu boys were with him...

If you went to visit a girl in her neighbourhood, and people came in her apartment and robbed you while you were lacking after a great nut, BE REAL, you will think that shorty had something to do with it...

And that suspicion will be INCREASED, if you were to discover that shorty and the robbers had close associations...

When the Twin Towers came down, all the governments in the world were calling the USA to let them now that they were ready to ride, whatever the USA needed, they would help whatever they way they could...

Basically, everybody picked a side and the battle lines were drown...And any country that did not join the USA was quickly marginalized, and considered untrustworthy...

This behaviour is BIGGER than hip hop and 2Pac vs Biggie...

If you had two good friends, friend A and fried B, and you discovered that friend B was banging your wife behind your back, you would expect friend A to have your back and make it clear to you that they were ready for whatever...

If friend A acted neutral, I don't think most people would accept that...Most people would stop fcuking with both friend A and B..Even if Friend A claims to be innocent...

At that time that's not what you need from them, you need them to convince you that they are on your side no matter what...7

That's just how I look at it...There is NO middle ground...You either with me or not...But I also know to accept somebody from the suburb to cross the line for me...

2Pac was crazy to believe that Biggie was about that action...

 

[Jone2three45]

Biggie DIDN'T ride for 2Pac, and that was ALWAYS 2Pac's issue with Biggie...2Pac said it in MULTIPLE interviews...When some Wu Tang boys got robbed out West, 2Pac made sure the issue was dealt with, because 2Pac felt responsible, since the Wu boys were with him...

If you went to visit a girl in her neighbourhood, and people came in her apartment and robbed you while you were lacking after a great nut, BE REAL, you will think that shorty had something to do with it...

And that suspicion will be INCREASED, if you were to discover that shorty and the robbers had close associations...

When the Twin Towers came down, all the governments in the world were calling the USA to let them now that they were ready to ride, whatever the USA needed, they would help whatever they way they could...

Basically, everybody picked a side and the battle lines were drown...And any country that did not join the USA was quickly marginalized, and considered untrustworthy...

This behaviour is BIGGER than hip hop and 2Pac vs Biggie...

If you had two good friends, friend A and fried B, and you discovered that friend B was banging your wife behind your back, you would expect friend A to have your back and make it clear to you that they were ready for whatever...

If friend A acted neutral, I don't think most people would accept that...Most people would stop fcuking with both friend A and B..Even if Friend A claims to be innocent...

At that time that's not what you need from them, you need them to convince you that they are on your side no matter what...7

That's just how I look at it...There is NO middle ground...You either with me or not...But I also know to accept somebody from the suburb to cross the line for me...

2Pac was crazy to believe that Biggie was about that action...

Excellent post.

 

[god shamgod]

1 hour and 50 minutes is gonna be about biggie thats all that weirdo talked about in 96

 

[Myrical Lyfe]

I think people really forget how real, how hostile, and how any spark could have lit a war back then. shyt was intense, and not glamourized like it is now.

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

PAC said it out his own mouth that he didn't want Biggie to snitch on who did it.. He didn't even want Biggie to ride or anything..only thing he was mad at Biggie for is not sayin nothin to him knowing what was bout to take place..not warning him not to be there...

***snorts 38982seconds***

Biggie and Mike Tyson told that nikka to not fukk with them nikkas, what happen to pac that night was out of biggie hands, because he told em,

the e40 situation...is different because his nikkas was ready to ride, but 40 had more power and input over his homeboys than biggie nem ever did...

pac was money hungry and addicted to the glitz and that panther bullshyt he was stressin didnt mean shyt at that time, it only sound good when its for his community service