how do black hebrew israelites work around Deutoronomy 23:7

[CouldntBeMeTho]

LOL, I got negged by @Ill Clinton for pointing out the fact that Ray Hagins doesn't know the difference between Osiris and Horus.

I guess you don't, either.​

I don't give a fukk about ray Higgins, I just hate your guts

 

[LionofJudah]

It's the exact same thing you said. Except he's from half way across the world and worships allah.

If you're just going to believe the bible without any evidence outside the bible, you lost.

Cool, I lost. As for you

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I don't give a fukk about ray Higgins, I just hate your guts

Further proving that atheism is illogical.....and retarded.

​

 

[LionofJudah]

Let's go to more scriptures explaining who the wicked is on the planet.

Psalms 73:1-12

1 (A Psalm of Asaph.) Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.

3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.

5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.

6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.

7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.

8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.

9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.

10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.

11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?

12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

Nobody can deny that these characteristics fit the white race to a fukking 'T'.

 

[Czar]

So Job lived in the land of Uz (Job 1:1), which was a part of Edom (Lamentations 4:21)

Uz was the son of Dishan, who was an Edomite (Genesis 36:28-30)

His friend Eliphaz was a Temanite (Job 4:1). The Temanites were a tribe of Edom (Genesis 36:40-43)

He was called the greatest man in the East (Job 1:3)


Job 19:9

He has stripped me of my glory
and removed the crown from my head.

Genesis 36:33-34

When Bela died, Jobab son of Zerah from Bozrah succeeded him as king.

When Jobab died, Husham from the land of the Temanites succeeded him as king.

Genesis 36:31

These were the kings who reigned in Edom before any Israelite king reigned

Even the Septuagint translators, who were all Jews, wrote a commentary at the end of Chapter 42 of the book of Job which states:

(42:17â) ουτος ερμηνευεται εκ της συριακης βιβλου εν μεν γη κατοικων τη αυσιτιδι επι τοις οριοις της ιδουμαιας και αραβιας προυπηρχεν δε αυτω ονομα ιωβαβ (42:17÷) λαβωνG2983 δε γυναικα αραβισσαν γεννα υιον ω ονομα εννων ην δε αυτος πατρος μεν ζαρε των ησαυ υιων υιος μητρος δε βοσορρας ωστε ειναι αυτον πεμπτον απο αβρααμ (42:17ä) και ουτοι οι βασιλεις οι βασιλευσαντες εν εδωμ ης και αυτος ηρξεν χωρας πρωτος βαλακ ο του βεωρ και ονομα τη πολει αυτου δενναβα μετα δε βαλακ ιωβαβ ο καλουμενος ιωβ μετα δε τουτον ασομ ο υπαρχων ηγεμων εκ της θαιμανιτιδος χωρας μετα δε τουτον αδαδ υιος βαραδ ο εκκοψας μαδιαμ εν τω πεδιω μωαβ και ονοματηG3588 πολει αυτου γεθθαιμ (42:17å) οι δε ελθοντες προς αυτον φιλοι ελιφας των ησαυ υιων θαιμανων βασιλευς βαλδαδ ο σαυχαιων τυραννος σωφαρ ο μιναιων βασιλευς

Translation:

(42:17B) This man is described in the Syriac book as living in the land of Ausis, on the borders of Idumea and Arabia: and his name before was Jobab; (42:17C) and having taken an Arabian wife, he begot a son whose name was Ennon. And he himself was the son of his father Zare, one of the sons of Esau, and of his mother Bosorrha, so that he was the fifth from Abraam. (42:17D) And these were the kings who reigned in Edom, which country he also ruled over: first, Balac, the son of Beor, and the name of his city was Dennaba: but after Balac, Jobab, who is called Job, and after him Asom, who was governor out of the country of Thaeman: and after him Adad, the son of Barad, who destroyed Madiam in the plain of Moab; and the name of his city was Gethaim. (42:17E) And his friends who came to him were Eliphaz, of the children of Esau, king of the Thaemanites, Baldad sovof the Sauchaeans, Sophar king of the Minaeans

The Septuagint was created about 300 years before Christ.



JOB WAS AN EDOMITE!


@LionofJudah @Disciple of the Projects @Sambow

 

[Czar]

I see this idiot @LionofJudah posted that same Esau "breakdown" from the other thread.

Gimme a sec, I'ma bout to debunk those one by one.

 

[Czar]

Time to put the nail in the coffin...

God HATES Esau, and while I could certainly list many scriptures that talk about certain prophecies against Edom, I would like to focus on the book of Obadiah because it gives more description of who Edom is today.

Edom no longer exists.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= ZzGNTSptcTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= b9OD8xkf6wo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= WM1yTIBXSPg
(Combine to watch)

Obadiah 1:3
The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
Now this verse tells us that not only do Edomites like to live high up in the mountains (and tall buildings/skyscrapers today), they are a very PROUD AND ARROGANT PEOPLE. They think there is absolutely no way they can ever be defeated. The pride of their heart has caused this. Now, who could this be today?

Uh, you DO realize the Edomites LIVED in the land of Seir, and Mount Seir was identified with them?

And they were utterly destroyed during the Judeo-Roman wars.

Or are you forgetting the Idumeans/Edomites were forced to become Jews by the Jews?

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html

Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

To add a little more background to the pride of Edom, here's a verse outside of Obadiah


Malachi 1:3-4

And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.

Now, where have we heard* this before?

We see* it throughout the Old Testament due to the Edomites constantly rebelling against the Hebrews or attacking them while they were down.

(2 Chronicles 20:1-27, Psalm 137:7, Ezekiel 25:12-13, 35:5 etc)

Edom always says he's gonna 'rebuild', but doesn't ask himself why this judgement comes upon him to begin with.

Edom doesn't exist anymore. And when it did, for the most part (Job being one of the few exceptions) Edom was a wicked nation. Not because of their skin tone (they were a people of color) but because of the hatred in their hearts.

Kinda like... your hatred.

Obadiah 1:4
Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Matthew 23:12

For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

But I guess arrogance and pride was only exclusive to the enemies of the Hebrews?


Hosea 5:5

The pride of Israel testifies to his face;
Therefore Israel and Ephraim stumble in their iniquity;
Judah also stumbles with them.

Byzantine Empire eagle

Ironically the "Hebrew Israelites" you parrot believe the Byzantine Empire was ruled by Hebrews


Moreover you cannot make an Edom-Rome or Edom-America connection, considering Deuteronomy 28:36 & 49 states that a nation swift as an eagle would come against Israel. One who's language they would not understand and that they nor their forefathers had known.

They and their forefathers KNEW the Edomites and understood their language. Esau was Jacob's twin brother.

Still not convinced?

Israel mentioned the Edomites during their song in Exodus 15:15. They asked the king of Edom for permission to cross through his country in Numbers 20:14. The Edomites are mentioned two times in the same book (Deuteronomy 2:3-9, 23:7) BEFORE the curses in chapter 28!


Another thing... were the Egyptians, Sumerians, Assyrians and Babylonians white too? Seeing as they not only worshiped Eagle deities (Annunaki) but also used the Eagle as their symbol?

Then again... I wouldn't be surprised if you did think they were white.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/thin...-hear-in-real-life.196704/page-5#post-7641593

Obadiah 1:10-11
For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.
These two verses tell of the violence that the Edomites have perpetuated on God's chosen and that they are going to be cut off from being a nation, especially due to taking what was supposed to belong to Israel for their inheritance (land/wealth).

HAD perpetuated on Israel, since they no longer exist and were punished for their evil deeds..

Obadiah 1:17-18
But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.

And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.
For Edom's hatred of God's chosen, God is going to use his people to completely eradicate Edom from the face of the Earth.

Too late, it already happened.

Point 3 is easily debunkable. To understand what happened to the Edomites you have to understand history and scripture. Obadiah predicted that Edom would be destroyed and their land would be taken. The Babylonians and Nabatean Kingdom were the first to conquer Edom. The Greeks followed suit and hellenized Edom, hence their name changing to Idumeans & their land to Idumea. the Hasmonean dynasty of Judea conquered the land and judaized the Idumeans, meaning they forcefully made them converts. In fact, the last kings of Judea were all pretty much Idumeans/Edomites converts. These same men also married and had children with Judean women. King Herod even renovated the 2nd temple, which came to be called King Herod's temple. Those same Idumeans were completely destroyed during the 70 year Judean-Roman wars. Their land is currently being held by the nation of Jordan, who are the descendants of the Hashemite...

Job

The same Job who was an Edomite himself

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/how-...d-deutoronomy-23-7.202482/page-8#post-7901890

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

@HebrewAllahTripleDarkness

Although I am a member of the Black Hebrew Israelites, I spend most of my time studying in the House of Konsciousness, the Moorish Science Temple, the Nation of Islam, and the Kemetian Nation of Lords and Queens, where we do Ultimate Arithmetic. I will study the King James Bible harder so I can show and prove that King James was BLACK.

 

[Czar]

Let's find out who Esau is according to the scriptures...

Translation: Let me offer a personal interpretation of scripture by reading into the text.

Gen 25:21-23

21 And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she was barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.

22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.

23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Genesis 25:25
And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

And the first came out red.....hmmm, I wonder what the Hebrew word translated as red is in Genesis 25:25.

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/132.htm

admoni: red, ruddy
Original Word: אַדְמוֹנִי
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: admoni
Phonetic Spelling: (ad-mo-nee')
Short Definition: ruddy
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from the same as adom

Which was translated as πυρρακης in the Septuagint and Rufus in the Vulgate.

I wonder who else was called Admoni/πυρρακης/Rufus in the bible? King David perhaps?
(1 Samuel 16:12, 17:4)

Genesis 27:11
And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man:


Whites are the only people on the Earth that can be considered 'red' and the majority of them are 'hairy'.

Really?

Google hairy Arabs, Persians and Indians.

Gen 25:26
And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

Notice Jacob's color is not described in the Bible. Why? He looked like everyone else did at the time. Take notice of him holding Esau's heel. This is symbolic, but we'll talk about that later.

His color isn't mentioned because he was Esau's TWIN.

Now post those pics of biracial twins with differing colors, families with light and dark skinned children of differing ages, and the black family that had an albino baby

More characteristics of Esau:

Gen 25:27
And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

So hunting is a white person characteristic now?


Are we calling Nimrod white too? Since he was called a mighty hunter in Genesis 10:9?

Hunting is a definite characteristic of so-called white people whether it's for food, or it's for sport. Moving on...

it's also a characteristic of brothers in Africa.

You seriously are the dumbest debater I've ever encountered in my life.

 

[Czar]

Gen 25:29-30
And Jacob sod pottage: and Esau came from the field, and he was faint:

And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom.

Now in these verses, Esau comes in from the field and would like the red pottage that Jacob is cooking. What is red pottage? It doesn't particular say in this verse, but later on in the New Testament it references this verse and says:

Hebrews 12:16
Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
So now we know that it was meat that Esau wanted, RED MEAT. Now, who is the main people on Earth, that like their meat rare?

You got it ...but keep that to yourself for now.

And here go that old 1 West teaching of "You know so-called white people are Esau, cause they like their meat rare, RED, just like he did."

Which is really the most debunkable argument concerning Esau.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= GrT5e80UT_0
(Combine to watch)

^Skip to 6:40 & watch til the end.

If you refuse to watch the video... Genesis 25:34 says he was given a Pottage of Lentils.

http://biblehub.com/lexicon/genesis/25-34.htm
^OG Hebrew text.

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5742.htm

Strong's Concordance
adashah: a lentil
Original Word:עֲדָשִׁים
Part of Speech:Noun Feminine
Transliteration:adashah
Phonetic Spellingaw-dawsh')
Short Definition:lentils

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5138.htm

Strong's Concordance
nazid: something sodden or boiled, pottageOriginal Word:נָזִיד
Part of Speech:Noun Masculine
Transliteration:nazid
Phonetic Spellingnaw-zeed')
Short Definition:stew

In Hebrews 12:16, the word translated as meat in the KJV is in fact MEAL in greek.

http://biblehub.com/lexicon/hebrews/12-16.htm
^OG Greek text

http://biblehub.com/greek/1035.htm

Strong's Concordance
brósis: eating, food
Original Word: βρῶσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: brósis
Phonetic Spelling: (bro'-sis)
Short Definition: eating, food, a meal, rust
Definition: (a) abstr: eating, (b) food, a meal, (c) rust.

And is overwhelming translated as either meal or food in the majority of translations.

Hebrews 12:16

New International Version
See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son.

New Living Translation
Make sure that no one is immoral or godless like Esau, who traded his birthright as the firstborn son for a single meal.

English Standard Version
that no one is sexually immoral or unholy like Esau, who sold his birthright for a single meal.

New American Standard Bible
that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And make sure that there isn't any immoral or irreverent person like Esau, who sold his birthright in exchange for one meal.

International Standard Version
No one should be immoral or godless like Esau, who sold his birthright for a single meal.

NET Bible
And see to it that no one becomes an immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Or lest a man be found among you as a fornicator, or debauched, like Esau, who for one meal sold his birthright.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Make sure that no one commits sexual sin or is as concerned about earthly things as Esau was. He sold his rights as the firstborn son for a single meal.

Jubilee Bible 2000
lest there be any fornicator or profane person as Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright.

King James 2000 Bible
Lest there be any immoral, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright.

Darby Bible Translation
lest [there be] any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one meal sold his birthright;

Webster's Bible Translation
Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birth-right.

Weymouth New Testament
lest there be a fornicator, or an ungodly person like Esau, who, in return for a single meal, parted with the birthright which belonged to him.

World English Bible
lest there be any sexually immoral person, or profane person, like Esau, who sold his birthright for one meal.

Young's Literal Translation
lest any one be a fornicator, or a profane person, as Esau, who in exchange for one morsel of food did sell his birthright,

Douay-Rheims Bible
Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau; who for one mess, sold his first birthright.

But you trust the KJV huh?

Song of Solomon 5:10
King James Bible
My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

In fact.... let's play along and pretend Esau DID love red meat.

Genesis 25:3

Isaac, who had a taste for wild game, loved Esau, but Rebekah loved Jacob.

Are we now saying Jacob also loved red meat? Thus somehow making him a white man?

 

[Czar]

To speed things along a bit, Jacob asks for Esau's birthright in exchange for the Lentil Soup Meal*

*Correction.

Genesis 36:9
And these are the generations of Esau the father of the Edomites in mount Seir:
Genesis 36:15-19
These were dukes of the sons of Esau: the sons of Eliphaz the firstborn son of Esau; duke Teman, duke Omar, duke Zepho, duke Kenaz,
Duke Korah, duke Gatam, and duke Amalek: these are the dukes that came of Eliphaz in the land of Edom; these were the sons of Adah.
And these are the sons of Reuel Esau's son; duke Nahath, duke Zerah, duke Shammah, duke Mizzah: these are the dukes that came of Reuel in the land of Edom; these are the sons of Bashemath Esau's wife.
And these are the sons of Aholibamah Esau's wife; duke Jeush, duke Jaalam, duke Korah: these were the dukes that came of Aholibamah the daughter of Anah, Esau's wife.
These are the sons of Esau, who is Edom, and these are their dukes.
Notice the word 'dukes' throughout the generations of Edom. The only time the word dukes are used in the Bible are used regarding Edom's lineage. Now, where are dukes located today? They are located in England, Scotland, Great Britain, Ireland, and the United Kingdom. All WHITE NATIONS.

This again..


The hebrew word alluph was translated as hegemon(ἡγεμών) in the septuagint. Both Alluph and Hegemon were used for Israelites AND Edomites in the LXX and Tanakh.


http://lexicon.katabiblon.com/index.php?lemma=ἡγεμών

http://biblehub.com/text/genesis/36-43.htm
http://biblehub.com/text/zechariah/9-7.htm
http://biblehub.com/text/zechariah/12-6.htm
http://biblehub.com/text/jeremiah/3-4.htm

And guess what?

Dux (from which we get DUKE) was also used for the Israelites in the Vulgate.

http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?t=0&q=dux&b=lvb

I guess that makes everyone an "Edomite" using your silly logic.

The picture is getting clearer

...That you don't understand scripture or the languages it was written in.

2 Esdras

 

[Czar]

Romans 9:13

As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Romans 9:14-33

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.”

16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much long suffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

25 As He says also in Hosea:

“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26 “And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
27 Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel:
“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
The remnant will be saved.
28 For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness,
Because the Lord will make a short work upon the earth.”
29 And as Isaiah said before: “Unless the Lord of Hosts had left us a seed"

30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; 31 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the Law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone. 33 As it is written:
“Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense,

And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”

Just like he had mercy on Job the Edomite king..

Edit:

Wisdom 11:23-26

For thou lovest all the things that are, and abhorrest nothing which thou hast made: for never wouldest thou have made any thing, if thou hadst hated it.

And how could any thing have endured, if it had not been thy will? or been preserved, if not called by thee?

But thou sparest all: for they are thine, O Lord, thou lover of souls.

 

[Czar]

Wow, I thought I was done, but this dummy posted MORE nonsense in this thread.

Let's prove in the Bible why we call the white man the devil. It is undeniable that the white man is Edom according to the scriptures.

Actually, the white man is Japheth according to scripture & history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javan
http://classic.net.bible.org/dictionary.php?word=GREECE
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H3120
Javan = "Ionia" or "Greece"

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0002_0_01462.htmlzi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenaz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenaz_(disambiguation)
Germany, in a medieval Jewish context

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomer
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H1586
the eldest son of Japheth and grandson of Noah; the progenitor of the early Cimmerians and other branches of the Celtic family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madai
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/median/median.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/acha/hd_acha.htm
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H4074
Media or Medes or Madai = "middle land"

Luke 10:18
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Jesus Christ stated that he beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Pay attention to the wording used here and in the verses I'm about to post. Now let's link that up with some more scriptures. Isaiah 14 talks about what is going to happen in the End Times.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Notice how this scripture talks about Lucifer/Satan falling from heaven which symbolizes his kingdom on Earth falling. Wherever the white man has gone, he has made the nations he conquered weak and in subjection to him.

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Pay attention to these two verses because I'm going to link those up with a few more to show us who Satan/Lucifer is TODAY. Notice Lucifer has aspiration to ascend into the clouds and be like the Most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

The scripture describe Lucifer as a 'man' so it is obvious that Lucifer is a physical being(s) on Earth. The question is who? Who has the power on Earth to make it tremble? Who has the power to shake kingdoms?

This dude said physical being(s) even though Isaiah 14:12 & Luke 10:18 are CLEARLY talking about one being.

Furthermore, the name Lucifer doesn't even appear in the original text. (Isaiah 14:12)

The word translated as "Lucifer" in the Vulgate & KJV is actually Helel, which means shining one in Hebrew.

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1966.htm

helel: a shining one
Original Word: הֵילֵל
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: helel
Phonetic Spelling: (hay-lale')
Short Definition: morning

Hence why the enemy is called an angel of light in 2 Corinthians 11:14.

But according to him, anytime the words Satan or Devil appear in the bible it's supposedly talking about white people


Yet in Matthew 4:1-11, Luke 4:1-13, Mark 1:9-12 we clearly see Jesus being tempted by The Devil.

Not Devils, Devil. Singular.

In fact, what about the book of Job? Which mentions Satan appearing with the other angels before God? (Job 1:6-7, 2:1-2).

If the white man is supposedly Esau, and he's also the devil... How was the devil inflicting pain on Job, who was an Edomite?


But hey, going off this retarded theory one would have to conclude the Jews were all supposedly white as well, since they are called children of the devil in John 8:44.

Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Who has the power to destroy cities and make the world a wilderness? Who is the one that constantly locks God's people in prison?

Isaiah 14:3-4

On the day the Lord gives you relief from your suffering and turmoil and from the harsh labor forced on you, you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon

Learn how to read things in context.

Then again, I dare you to say that king is a metaphor. See how fast you get cut with the word.

2 Esdras

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Esau is still around

Point 3 is easily debunkable. To understand what happened to the Edomites you have to understand history and scripture. Obadiah predicted that Edom would be destroyed and their land would be taken. The Babylonians and Nabatean Kingdom were the first to conquer Edom. The Greeks followed suit and hellenized Edom, hence their name changing to Idumeans & their land to Idumea. the Hasmonean dynasty of Judea conquered the land and judaized the Idumeans, meaning they forcefully made them converts. In fact, the last kings of Judea were all pretty much Idumeans/Edomites converts. These same men also married and had children with Judean women. King Herod even renovated the 2nd temple, which came to be called King Herod's temple. Those same Idumeans were completely destroyed during the 70 year Judean-Roman wars. Their land is currently being held by the nation of Jordan, who are the descendants of the Hashemite...

Someone come pick this midget's body off the ground.

 

[LionofJudah]

This dude has been posting to himself for the last FOUR HOURS. Esau keeps cleaving to the righteous, but he knows his destiny is slavery and ceasing to exist.

 

[Czar]

This dude has been posting to himself for the last FOUR HOURS. Esau keeps cleaving to the righteous, but he knows his destiny is slavery and ceasing to exist.

You're quoting Esau in your sig.

Again, I pose the question. How does it feel to know Job was an Edomite?