How come Baltimore and DC never produced any rappers?

[Sankofa Alwayz]

And probably a big reason you never heard another

I was surprised to find out that B Rich is actually from The Shore whole time tho. I’m willing to bet he from Salisbury originally before moving to Baltimore. A lot of them Salisbury and Fruitland nikkas be on some wannabe Bmore shyt lol

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

so now hip hop is considered Bama shyt in DC now?

Back in the late 80’s and early 90’s yes, but today? Everybody and their mama wanna be a rapper lol

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

New York’s biggest issue was the DJs not supporting local artist. I don’t listen to the radio no more so idk if that has improved over the years or not. I do See Funk Flex and certain 105.1 shows doing it tho.

Funk Flex may be a lot of things but when it comes to showcasing and supporting local talent up in NYC, he delivers at times I’ll admit

 

[ISO]

New York’s biggest issue was the DJs not supporting local artist. I don’t listen to the radio no more so idk if that has improved over the years or not. I do See Funk Flex and certain 105.1 shows doing it tho.

It was lack of talent and movement. The NY DJ’s support now because there’s more talent and movements and youth.

It’s a reason NY been breaking in artists every year now.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

so now hip hop is considered Bama shyt in DC now?

Breh, nikkaz only now started saying “Yo”. That’s how much DC has gone out of its way to not be on some NYC shyt.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Back in the late 80’s and early 90’s yes, but today? Everybody and their mama wanna be a rapper lol

At this point I’m trying to see what city will create the next new genre and I’m not taking about hip hop sub genres either. Look forward to the future.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Breh, nikkaz only now started saying “Yo”. That’s how much DC has gone out of its way to not be on some NYC shyt.

I see dmv artist also doing songs with fivio

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I see dmv artist also doing songs with fivio

Things have opened up way more compared to where it was before. Frfr in due time DC and BMore will get their time on the stage. They just working from behind compared to other Black cities that developed their rap scenes since the 80s/90s.

 

[submarine1]

......
DC is like the Bay. Just like how the Bay doesn't ever want to be in the shadow of L.A......

The main difference is the BAY never had an inferiority complex to LA but DC definitely had feelings about NYC.
NY nikkas at howard and the local DMV area colleges used to round up all the fine women cuz the whole area had NYC envy.
I lived in DC and went to Hampton in the 90s so I saw it up close. Sure there were some DC people who were anti-NYC off top but there were WAAAAY too many DMV locals emulating NYC mannerisms- Baltimore was emulating too even worse than DC.

When LA tried to make their move on the Bay back in the late 80s that sh1t was chased outta town quick. The LA vs the Bay thing died out in the late 90s - a lot of it was hype anyways. The SF/Oakland regionality/rivalry stuff fizzled out when places like East Palo Alto, Vallejo and Richmond started making their own noise- nobody cares about that regionality anymore in the Bay which you can see by all the features Bay area rappers have on their albums.

DMV rappers never have that level of features from local area artist.
Also DMV is still handicapped by the local crab in a barrel mentality and there is very little collaboration between crews and clicks.
The hate for county/state lines in the DMV is hyper corny in the 21st century. If you were from Montgomery County you weren't down or black enough and everybody had to claim some kind of connection to Southeast DC to be considered "the realest".
PG County had a superiority complex (highest concentration of wealthy blacks in america) when a lot of that gogo/rap blend sound was never going more than 50 miles. And Virginia- immediately dismissed by everyone which is why southern VA (hampton, va beach, norfolk, newport news, etc) went and did their own thing- they dont give $hit about DMV politics.

This is why ATLANTA has always been successful, can you imagine if they did the county/city rivalry thing like DC? Big Boi is from Savannah, nowhere close to ATL and the Migos is from way tf out in Gwinnet. You dont here anything about Cobb vs Clayton vs Fayette vs Fulton County. In reality ATL is like LA County, everybody is all spread out and very few artist are from/living in Atlanta proper.
Florida is another great example where nobody cares about your region/origin - if you are popping you are popping- period.

I'm from DC, lived all over the DMV and now I'm mainly on the west coast and ATL for the exact reason somebody else mentioned. DMV artist are most successful when they move around and get away from the local scene even though DC is naturally an international city.

For every country in the world that exist there are at least 100 people from that country living in the DC area

This is different from anywhere else in America including NYC because of government/political interest so I think most of the DMV's bigger entrepreneurs and artist are already thinking bigger than the local scene (and rap music) and get to moving around at an early age.
Sorry for the long post- I want the DMV to shine but all the crabs gotta get boiled first.

 

[Killalex]

I mean they got Wale?
Although he's always talking bout how his people hate him hard.

 

[Deoji]

The main difference is the BAY never had an inferiority complex to LA but DC definitely had feelings about NYC.
NY nikkas at howard and the local DMV area colleges used to round up all the fine women cuz the whole area had NYC envy.
I lived in DC and went to Hampton in the 90s so I saw it up close. Sure there were some DC people who were anti-NYC off top but there were WAAAAY too many DMV locals emulating NYC mannerisms- Baltimore was emulating too even worse than DC.

When LA tried to make their move on the Bay back in the late 80s that sh1t was chased outta town quick. The LA vs the Bay thing died out in the late 90s - a lot of it was hype anyways. The SF/Oakland regionality/rivalry stuff fizzled out when places like East Palo Alto, Vallejo and Richmond started making their own noise- nobody cares about that regionality anymore in the Bay which you can see by all the features Bay area rappers have on their albums.

DMV rappers never have that level of features from local area artist.
Also DMV is still handicapped by the local crab in a barrel mentality and there is very little collaboration between crews and clicks.
The hate for county/state lines in the DMV is hyper corny in the 21st century. If you were from Montgomery County you weren't down or black enough and everybody had to claim some kind of connection to Southeast DC to be considered "the realest".
PG County had a superiority complex (highest concentration of wealthy blacks in america) when a lot of that gogo/rap blend sound was never going more than 50 miles. And Virginia- immediately dismissed by everyone which is why southern VA (hampton, va beach, norfolk, newport news, etc) went and did their own thing- they dont give $hit about DMV politics.

This is why ATLANTA has always been successful, can you imagine if they did the county/city rivalry thing like DC? Big Boi is from Savannah, nowhere close to ATL and the Migos is from way tf out in Gwinnet. You dont here anything about Cobb vs Clayton vs Fayette vs Fulton County. In reality ATL is like LA County, everybody is all spread out and very few artist are from/living in Atlanta proper.
Florida is another great example where nobody cares about your region/origin - if you are popping you are popping- period.

I'm from DC, lived all over the DMV and now I'm mainly on the west coast and ATL for the exact reason somebody else mentioned. DMV artist are most successful when they move around and get away from the local scene even though DC is naturally an international city.

For every country in the world that exist there are at least 100 people from that country living in the DC area

This is different from anywhere else in America including NYC because of government/political interest so I think most of the DMV's bigger entrepreneurs and artist are already thinking bigger than the local scene (and rap music) and get to moving around at an early age.
Sorry for the long post- I want the DMV to shine but all the crabs gotta get boiled first.

you claiming DC but said DC nikkas copied NYC nikkas mannerism? what part of the area you from?

 

[Piff Perkins]

 

[ISO]

A lot of hate in the city. People locally don't really support. Most up and coming rappers from Boston are heavily involved with gangs and street shyt so they either are in and out of jail or get bodied. Also most up and coming Boston rappers don't have their own sound and are just following the Chicago or Brooklyn drill sound.

In my opinion rappers (DTheFlyest or Joyner Lucas) from other Massachusetts cities are more talented then up and coming Boston rappers and rightfully get more shine.

Any links?

Black Boston is so underrepresented.

 

[OGBIGBOY187]

Yung Gleesh pretty much a fore father for modern rap and aint no mention of ASAP Ant and Marino Infantry???

 

[submarine1]

you claiming DC but said DC nikkas copied NYC nikkas mannerism? what part of the area you from?

I lived on Tuckerman Ave and in Columbia Heights and Takoma Park during college years after coming back Hampton.
Family on Suitland Pkwy and in Fort Washington and I was present during the entire U Street Renaissance.
and I didnt say all or most DC nikkas but if we gonna keep it 100 then keep it 100.
A lotta dudes was emulating- that was the biggest criticism for DC from people coming here for college or work- that we couldnt decide if we were more NYC or ATL (the ATL thing started happening later).
And it wasnt Chicago or Cali or Carolina dudes scooping up the local chicks, it was NY nikkas - listen to old rap tapes on how they would talk about coming down to DMV to hustle or hide-out or book hoes. We used to be hurt chilling around NYC dudes who talked about DC girls like they were slow moving chickens in a den of wolves. Girls would go out of their way to avoid local nikkas and find the NYC "swag" - so bad that nikkas from Connecticutt and Jersey would front like they were from NYC.
Of course in 91-92 New Jersey nikkas started popping sh-t on their own cuz Jersey was emerging with its own identity at that time. They moved out of NYC's shadow and I bring it up cuz I was frontrow watching it happen and its a perfect example of how NYC held their status for a long time. I worked in several studios in DC and the emulation was real.

I ain't making this up - it was a genuine observation/complaint from folks trying to cultivate a DC music art scene during the 90s and early 2000s before the gentro wave really took over. Back when folks was trying NOT to make gogo/rap blends and you could still drive past the front of the White House and before BET moved to NYC.

There are SO MANY colleges in the DMV area and so many kids from new england (NY, Mass, Jersey, Conn, New Hampshire) that come to the area for school- even they saw how NYC cultural influence was deep down here - it made them feel at home in a new englandy type of way. This is not so much of an issue now but in the 90s it was a major issue.
And I'll say it one more time, NYC emulating nikkas dont hold a candle to the crabs in a barrel mentality which still handicaps the DC area RIGHT NOW.

My bad for another long post but I remember all this sh1t like it was yesterday and the fact this thread was started because there is a perception the area hasn't produced any rappers makes me hella sad.