How can extremely religious adults be taken seriously.

[Brown_Pride]

Atheism is not a religion, but it is the only reasonable position, imo.

This is actually true. Where religion comes in is that it is "super natural" meaning outside of nature, meaning you either believe or you don't. There is no fact to it.

Virgin birth is NOT NATURAL. It is what some might call a Miracle. You cannot prove a Miracle, particularly when you're looking at it from 2000 years in the future.

Ultimately though, religion REQUIRES faith. So if you don't have that FAITH then yes NoMayo is correct in saying that Atheism is the only REASONABLE position.

 

[BuyandSave]

So scientists' personal, unproven thoughts are also science

there's no need for them to adhere to the scientific process and to be peer reviewed

ok

That's called a personal theory, idiot, and they base those theories on findings which, in their opinion, LOGICALLY point to something. No one is saying it's fact - hence the fact that it's called a THEORY. You treat the bible as FACTUAL evidence, which it's not - at all.

 

[Zach Lowe]

people listen to stand up comedians for philosophical and religious opinions



this is the level of thought we're on in the higher learning section?

 

[NoMayo15]

virtually no one says evolution is wrong

what are you smoking

you're stereotyping all religious people based on less than 1% of the total group

your talk about atheists was irrelevant to me I don't give a fokk what you think about atheists or about anything I can skip over if it adds nothing of value to me

Link?

 

[Zach Lowe]

That's called a personal theory, idiot, and they base those theories on findings which, in their opinion, LOGICALLY point to something. No one is saying it's fact - hence the fact that it's called a THEORY. You treat the bible as FACTUAL evidence, which it's not - at all.

A theory in science (or as a scientific term) is a firm and widely supported position not a personal opinion

you don't even know basic scientific terms

look it up

no one believes the bible word for word
hence why people interpret things differently

are you really this uneducated, breh?

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

i might say somethin on this later. i realized the other day though its a lot like bein on shutter island

 

[BuyandSave]

people listen to stand up comedians for philosophical and religious opinions



this is the level of thought we're on in the higher learning section?

You seem extremely upset I don't understand what you even mean by this or what it has to do with the discussion at hand.

 

[Zach Lowe]

This is actually true. Where religion comes in is that it is "super natural" meaning outside of nature, meaning you either believe or you don't. There is no fact to it.

Virgin birth is NOT NATURAL. It is what some might call a Miracle. You cannot prove a Miracle, particularly when you're looking at it from 2000 years in the future.

Ultimately though, religion REQUIRES faith. So if you don't have that FAITH then yes NoMayo is correct in saying that Atheism is the only REASONABLE position.

There are no 100% conclusive proofs to justify atheism either

atheism requires just as much faith as religion

without any faith either way the only possible position is agnosticism

 

[Zach Lowe]

You seem extremely upset I don't understand what you even mean by this or what it has to do with the discussion at hand.

dude was quoting Bill Maher

what does David Letterman think? I like his show better

 

[BuyandSave]

A theory in science (or as a scientific term) is a firm and widely supported position not a personal opinion

you don't even know basic scientific terms

look it up

no one believes the bible word for word
hence why people interpret things differently

are you really this uneducated, breh?

If you don't believe the bible word for word, why believe it at all? What's the point of picking and choosing what you think is true and what isn't. That's beyond dumb. As far as that other shyt, I said personal theory. Maybe I should've used hypothesis. I'll admit, I'm no scientist

 

[BuyandSave]

dude was quoting Bill Maher

what does David Letterman think? I like his show better

Quoting him for an opinion that he also shares. I don't see the issue.

 

[NoMayo15]

You could make a lot of things sound reasonable. Like creationism, for instance, or just believing in a general higher power. The thing is, you have to have something of substance to back up these claims, i.e. "humans existed parallel to other mammals but were the only ones to advance or evolve", not, "Jesus said he'll brb, it's been written bro!"

Sure... I agree that someone could make creationism sound reasonable -- but that doesn't make it reasonable. These concepts still are predicated on one fallacy or another -- primarily argument from ignorance.

(Agnostic) Atheism on the other hand doesn't do that. It's disbelief until valid evidence is presented. In every other facet of life, people generally approach claims from this stand-point. But for some reason religious people invoke the word "faith" and that's suppose to make their position more reasonable? No. No one just accepts outlandish claims.

 

[Zach Lowe]

If you don't believe the bible word for word, why believe it at all? What's the point of picking and choosing what you think is true and what isn't. That's beyond dumb. As far as that other shyt, I said personal theory. Maybe I should've used hypothesis. I'll admit, I'm no scientist

the bible is a product of Christianity not the other way around

what people believe is based on what type of Christianity they follow

the bible is always comes second, if my understanding is correct

there may be some groups that interpret everything in the bible literally but I don't know of any that have many followers

 

[BuyandSave]

Sure... I agree that someone could make creationism sound reasonable -- but that doesn't make it reasonable. These concepts still are predicated on one fallacy or another -- primarily argument from ignorance.

(Agnostic) Atheism on the other hand doesn't do that. It's disbelief until valid evidence is presented. In every other facet of life, people generally approach claims from this stand-point. But for some reason religious people invoke the word "faith" and that's suppose to make their position more reasonable? No. No one just accepts outlandish claims.

They could be looked at as theories

 

[NoMayo15]

There are no 100% conclusive proofs to justify atheism either

atheism requires just as much faith as religion

without any faith either way the only possible position is agnosticism

Agnosticism addresses a different question all together. You just admonished another poster for not understanding the terms in the discussion.