Hot Take; 50 Cent killed NYC hip hop

[prophecypro]

Not sure whats to disagree about.
He came out the gate dissing on some joke shyt, which is fine but then he started going at people like Joe and Jada for random reasons. He also was the first rapper to be obsessed with other people;s sales and kinda created this dumb mentality with fans on first week numbers


Sure you can make an argument they were other things, the industry being there and too comfy, rappers weird competitvness, tunnel shutting down. But 50 embodied the weird competitivness too

 

[J-MIL]

Ppl been saying this

It's partly true

 

[Finesse]

Fif bringin that sales argument to the forefront did more damage to hip hop than anything else.


NY rappers were always competing and throwing shots at each other.



From Wu and Big, Big and Mase, Jay n Nas, Nore n Nas, X n Rule, Papoose n Murda n Max, Jim n Tru etc. etc.



That aint nothing new. NY is a very aggressive and competitive scene. (Two of Fif's favorite words btw )

 

[Osmosis]

Dog, they're joking why you taking that personally it's sarcasm

They're literally bots that spam Kendrick posts in every thread

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

the 50 take is kinda weak tbh

Truth is when the NY OGs got stale (50,Jay,Nas,Busta etc) they had nobody to take the torch because they was running around trying to copy some shyt they had no business trying to chase

Outside of Nicki they had nobody in that next wave of rappers that could actually make good music . South had plenty nikkas to step up when it was their turn ranging from nikkas like Plies and Gucci to Ross and J.Cole

Midwest you had Sean,and them Chicago drill nikkas

Out west you had Kendrick and Tyler

Not mention Meek,Drake,Wiz and Curren$y


NY was trying to make us think Fab or Jim Jones was hot or Ron Browz and MIMs was up next.

NY nikkas was in their pretentious bubble and was last to realize that they was ass and nobody was checking for em


You can see how out the loop NY nikkas are now when they try to compare NY mixtape runs to nikkas like Jeezy, Gucci and Wayne or say shyt like 400 degreez ain’t a clsssic and the rest of the booth look at em with the

 

[Mac Ten]

Y’all stay blaming 50 for the downfall of NYC Hip Hop as if Lil Jon and Ludacris weren’t being pushed every damn hour.


People forget that it was a lot of public beefs in NYC before 50 revitalized his career. PAC killed NY years ago but no ones wants to talks about that.


Nas and Jay-Z’s beef tore NYC apart if u really think about it.


That beef was the 03 version of the Kendrick vs Drake beef.


Jay was blocking Nas from the behind the scenes and tried to cheat and Nas still won.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

NYC lost a generation due to the early 00s mixtape era that didn’t pop while the south did

Will Yall stop with this 50 Cent shyt? lol

 

[rabbid]

..... im not seeing it. But he definitely should've let Pop Smoke breathe a lil bit and took a Jay Z / Cole approach.

 

[Chris Cool]

nikkas thought red cafe, papoose, and Joel Ortiz had next.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

@Chris Cool is right on the money. I’m CONFIDENT most of you weren’t around lol

Saigon
Papoose
Gravy
Stack Bundles
Jae Millz
Red Cafe
Joel Ortiz
Jae Hood
Bathgate
Geda K
Cory Guns
Newz

etc. The list goes on

Do you know how many of these had deals?
Do you know how many of these guys were backed by reputable people?
Do you know how many of these guys got magazine spreads when that shyt mattered?

ALL OF THESE GUYS FAILED. The only two I can remember doing anything was Joe Budden & Maino

A whole generation lost at a time where the south was gearing up

That’s what happened

 

[FunkDoc1112]

The "Radio Act of 1996" is commonly referred to as the Telecommunications Act of 1996; it was a major piece of legislation that significantly deregulated the broadcasting and telecommunications industries, allowing for greater media consolidation by removing restrictions on radio station ownership and enabling companies to own more stations across different markets.



this killed NYC hip hop....and any form of regional music everywhere because guys like Ebro really couldn't break new artists even if they truly wanted to.

Also with moguls like Diddy and Hov making more money from outside of music and not really pushing and new New York artists, the shyt dried up.

New York Rap died when 50 and Cam fell off like someone in this thread said.

I will point this out till the cows come home. Media consolidation fukked up a lot of shyt but ESPECIALLY music.

 

[Mr. Negative]

Neggable

New Yawk copying Atlanta sound and co opting LA gang culture is what killed y'all whole style. Quite frankly we expected more from you all. Not mad, just disappointed

this. Labels started pushing it heavy chasing sales.

THEN cats had the nerve to complain about nikkas from Rochester and Buffalo blowing up by making actual East Coast sounding shyt

 

[FunkDoc1112]

nikkas thought red cafe, papoose, and Joel Ortiz had next.

That's what was so annoying...you'd point nikkas like Red Cafe and Ron Browz were wack and you'd have some nikkas in ill fitting skinny jeans and tilted Yankee fitteds saying that shyt is hot and let that boom bap shyt go

 

[FaTaL]

Cant kill something that’s been dead

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

I will point this out till the cows come home. Media consolidation fukked up a lot of shyt but ESPECIALLY music.

Yup. With the mergers of smaller radio stations into bigger companies, the music being played became more commercialized for radio, which caused Hip-Hop artist to make music for the radio and not for the listeners, which turned a lot of Hip-Hop heads away from listening to the radio. The music has become extremely formulaic. Rappers now feel that they have to sound a certain way and have certain artists featured to get radio spins. This creates a lot of artists who sound like each other.

Clear Channel (now iHeartMedia Inc.) and Viacom claimed 42 percent of the commercial radio listening audience by 2001. That number has surely swelled by now and to think, those are only two companies. iHeartMedia Inc, itself has 850 radio stations under its control. It also owns about 100 performance and amphitheaters, as well as clubs. With power like that, they can control a vast majority of the Hip-Hop that we hear and the only reason they have that power is because of the Telecom Act of 1996.