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TPLF doesn't have drones. They have long-range missiles but they are limited in range.

Aren't they getting Western help? A good assassin ain't that hard to get. I'm saying. There's a time for theatrics and a time for actual sense. This is the time for the latter.
 

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Aren't they getting Western help? A good assassin ain't that hard to get. I'm saying. There's a time for theatrics and a time for actual sense. This is the time for the latter.
They're getting help from the United States with surveillance and giving them passive diplomatic support. But I don't think they'd go as far as helping the TPLF take him out. I don't even think TPLF would go that far because they know the insane level of backlash that would cause. Abiy is extremely popular in the country.
 

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They're getting help from the United States with surveillance and giving them passive diplomatic support. But I don't think they'd go as far as helping the TPLF take him out. I don't even think TPLF would go that far because they know the insane level of backlash that would cause. Abiy is extremely popular in the country.

Nothing stops the Americans from taking Abiy out like they did Gaddafi
 

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They're actions don't make sense to me. They want to operate as an independent nation but still retain Ethiopia’s power and influence.
In terms of what their fighting for, for themselves personally they’re simply trying to regain control of the country after Abiy sidelined them in order to bring much needed reforms to the country. If they can’t retain control then they want the Ethiopian state to disintegrate so they can fulfil the ambitions of their manifesto and create a larger state out of pieces of Ethiopian and Eritrean land.

For the West, this has to do with the the proxy war with China and the Horn of Africa Tripartite agreement between Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia which seeks to create a more equitable relationship between regional states of the Horn and the outside world by means of closer economic, political, and military cooperation. This is a direct challenge to Western hegemony in the region. An independent Tigray wouldn’t be a viable state at all since Eritrea would still be hostile and pretty much the whole Ethiopian state would be the same. Moreover, the TPLF at their core are classical tribalist dictators so they would have no interest in helping the people on the ground. They know better than anyone that Tigray by itself wouldn’t be able to survive as an nation state. An independent Tigray would only survive as a neocolonial puppet of the West used to drive a wedge between Ethiopia and Eritrea a la Israel and the MENA region.

That’s what I’m having trouble understanding. For them to have the type of control they want so many things have to work in their favor. These things broke down in 2018 and they can break down in the future so to go back and try to do it all over again is madness. If they don’t come out of this war without independence it won’t be long before another civil war.

The outlook for Ethiopia as it is doesn’t look good if what you’re saying is true and that they will be met with insurgency upon reaching Addis. Ethnic warfare could last for years to come. TPLF of course will try to avoid this at all costs because they won’t be able to effectively attack Isaias until they have full control of Ethiopia and its army if they want to make a quick turn-around and attack Eritrea. TPLF can’t feel secure unless there is a sympathetic Eritrean government which can only be guaranteed by force. Again, this doesn’t seem feasible.

Their plan now is probably to get to Addis hope Amharas fall in line and join another coalition govt. Rebuild the infrastructure of their region, wait Isaias out, see what leadership emerges after him and then call for a vote to secede if there is enough pressure from the Tigrayan people to leave. I don’t think they can sustain another war after this one especially if they are the primary people’s fighting it and having to contend with Amhara militias and whatever other groups at the same time. Are there any Amhara parties or movements that are willing to share power with TPLF again? From what I’ve seen Amharas are either in support of Abiy or feel he hasn’t done enough against the group.

As far as taking territory from Eritrea/Ethiopia to make their future state this doesn’t work long term. There is contention over Western Tigray, both TPLF and Amhara claim it as rightfully theirs with Amhara currently retaking it. How do you see this being worked out without going to war every few decades? On Eritrea, they had a chance to take the port in the border war but were unable to and it’s different to try to take territory from a country who’s borders are already recognized. Even if they had taken it how long could they expect to hold it?

There should be a ceasefire and negotiation on how and when they should secede. If the Tigrayan people overwhelmingly support TPLF then they should understand that staying in Ethiopia will be a never ending cycle of conflict. All the progress that was made is gone and many lives lost for what exactly? How cohesive is the country outside of the Tigray region? I can’t imagine TPLF wants to be the only region to secede. Can Abiy keep the rest of the country intact?
 

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@2Quik4UHoes did you see this? The Ethiopian Karen who was crying on Twitter about being searched a few days ago was caught red-handed in a Zoom call with Western diplomats and a TPLF capo discussing overthrowing the government. This journalist somehow got a recording of the meeting.





 
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@2Quik4UHoes did you see this? The Ethiopian Karen who was crying on Twitter about being searched a few days ago was caught red-handed in a Zoom call with Western diplomats and a TPLF capo discussing overthrowing the government. This journalist somehow got a recording of the meeting.







Yup, also the dry run caught on camera in Addis. These faggits gettin ready to manufacture an “incident” so U.S. special forces can fly in from Port Djibouti. shyts coming to a head. I hope we kill all these fukkin devils. Spill their fukkin blood if they pull a move. Send they bytch asses straight to hell. :pacspit:

We really need to kick out any diplomats and diplomatic missions on that funny shyt. They opps and most likely aiding the enemy in some way shape or form. Glad we kickin those Irish officials out. Russian embassy already negated America’s bullshyt about Addis not being safe. fukk this whole god forsaken country ima smile when it all falls apart.
 

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After we’re done sending the Woyane scum to hell the West is gonna have a hard time keeping Africom in Djibouti.

They got my nikka outchea talking like a 80s villain. :mjlol:

But nah, you got any links of TPLF and their overall ideology/plans etc? I know you called them racists and compared them to Nazis.
 

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They got my nikka outchea talking like a 80s villain. :mjlol:

But nah, you got any links of TPLF and their overall ideology/plans etc? I know you called them racists and compared them to Nazis.

We dealing with 80s type villains :yeshrug:



Eugene Puryear gives a pretty good overview of everything but it’s from a few months back so it’s not caught up to speed. I’ll try to find some reading that’s neutral. But they basically believe in “ethnic federalism” whereas the opposition believes in nationalism and one common identity regardless of ethnicity. It started as a brewing political struggle of ideology and since politics failed it went to war.
 
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