Honest Answers Only - Why do you (yes you) hate LeBron

[Trece]

The problem was the comparisons from the jump. LeBron's game has ALWAYS been Magic Johnson who can score at an elite level too. He's never been the pure scorer 2 guard like Kobe or MJ. He was far more of a PG and always has been. We can argue about who's better but their games are nothing alike.

I am dapping this because you seem like a level hated Bron fan..
If i am being honest the Bron hate is too much right now breh..

Let the man lose with some dignity. He is going to be 33 in 6 months he has had a great career.

 

[ISO]

For me it is teaming up with Wade and Bosh (Ray Ray) and at one point trying to get Chris Paul too.

I could respect him more if he had that a$$hole selfishness about him like MJ/Kobe where he wanted to beat his rivals (Wade) not team up with them. It is a generational thing I guess, Bron is millenial and he acts like one.



Maybe after he retires we'll see.

He never tried to get CP3 on the Cavs or the Heat and Ray Allen was washed when he joined them he was a 38 year old role player...

MJ didn't have to team up with anyone he had Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman/Horace Grant, and a strong cast of role players and an acclaimed offensive system (the Triangle) instituted by a HoF coaching staff (Phil Jackson, Tex Winter)...

Do you want to know what happened when the Bulls threatened to trade Scottie Pippen? MJ damn near signed to the Knicks to play with Patrick Ewing. The Bulls ended up not trading Pippen, re-signing Phil Jackson and Dennis Rodman, and gave MJ a then unprecedented $30M contract to beat out the Knicks offer.
Nearly A Knick

Kobe didn't have to go anywhere he was drafted to play with a guy named Shaquille O'Neal who arguably had the most dominant peak in NBA history, to go along with the same coaching and system that MJ played in, and great role players...

Do you want to know what happened when Shaq went to Miami? Kobe demanded Andrew Bynum be traded for Jason Kidd and threatened to leave the Lakers for the Chicago Bulls. The Lakers ended up acquiring Pau Gasol...

LeBron and Wade weren't rivals, they were talented players so their matchups were always anticipated but they weren't rivals. LeBron and Wade were very good friends who went at each other hard, but they never faced off in the playoffs, their was no bad blood between their teams. When, Wade and LeBron teamed up the Heat were barely a .500 team. And both LeBron and Wade had one thing in common they were on one man teams, and were getting handed by these guys.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Many black people -not me- hate LeBron James because he personifies everything they have been told not to be since they grew up by a white world and a white 'hidden' master (called MTV, BET and whatever else TV) taught them to hate any other black person.

Unfortunately, the average brainwashed person doesn't realize this. They do not realize they prefer Curry over LeBron because Curry is practically white not because they like how he plays, but because of the color of his skin.

Unfortunately the average black man is brainwashed af to hate any other successful black man. When is the last time you heard of a rock band beef... The Killers' drummer punched the drummer of.. Queens of the Stone Age and taped it... and put it on worldstarrock.com? N E V E R. They all eat peacefully.

Now, I don't know many black men more successful than LeBron James.. so he gets the most hate, especially from black, brainwashed men and insecure black men (not mutually exclusive).

It's pathetic. Sad. Sucka shyt.

But this is the average, brainwashed, dumb, follower black man for you. This is real talk and 99% of Coli LeBron hating nikkaz can't accept real shyt and truth, they'd rather use whatever fantasy they've created for themselves to hate this strong, successful black champion.

How would you know what "many Black people" hate when you're white?

 

[Verbal Kint]

I am dapping this because you seem like a level hated Bron fan..
If i am being honest the Bron hate is too much right now breh..

Let the man lose with some dignity. He is going to be 33 in 6 months he has had a great career.

I don't even think I'm a LeBron 'fan'. I enjoy his game but I think I ride for him not out of any stan nonsense but because he gets a ton of irrational hate. When those white folks started burning his jersey it bothered me on some black folk solidarity stuff. I hated how quick people rushed to tear the man down and tear his character down and all that. Plus I don't get my generation (25-40 basically). I was little when Jordan was finishing up so I was excited to be able to watch a potential GOAT's career play out but nikkas seemed so intent on hating dude from the jump it never made sense to me.

 

[Starboy52]

He won my squad 2 rings and got us to the dance 4 seasons in a row. I don't HATE LeBron and respect what he does and continues to do as a player.

What I do hate? How the media, how fans of whatever team he's playing on, how he himself at times have this weird need to leapfrog him over MJ, Kareem, Wilt, etc. in GOAT conversations before his time is up, then get angst when you either don't share a similar opinion or bring up a point that throws a wrench into their argument. Like, let the man's career play out before you try to crown him as the undisputed GOAT. Let his entire body speak for itself and stop trying to pumpfake him into the convo using halfway accomplishments that do more harm to the perception of his place among the greats than good.

 

[Swagnificent]

Kobe stans are actually funny and bring humor in our delusions where you can tell we're being tongue in cheek

but Lebron stans are actually serious when they say their wild claims. On top of that, they lack humor and don't bring entertainment at all.

This. Most Kobe fans prefer Kobe but we know LeBron is great. LeBron stans are just disrespectful when it comes to how they talk about other greats. And they actually believe their delusions.

LeBron's biggest indictment is the fact he's not as good as the media and his stans make him out to be. That is all. If his stans weren't on this he's already 2nd best all-time and coming for MJ steez, nobody would care. But because they believe this delusion, most people are rooting against him.

I personally enjoy watching LeBron lose just so his stans can have their delusions crushed. I honestly have nothing against LeBron the man. He's actually a great black role model. Much better role model than Kobe and Jordan.

 

[Loose]

Please. Why is thread being made now then? Why wasn't this made when he was beating up on the minor league conference known as The east?

It was "LeGOAT" this and "Kaaannnngg" that when shyt was breezy. On some frontrunning shyt. Now it's "Why do ya hate him so much?" when he's losing.

in fairness there's like a million lebron hate threads every week. I rarely see lebron fans anymore. hell you got me defending him on here

 

[catskill247]

It's simple. He was crowned way too early. King James years before he did anything. As a Laker fan and Kobe stan it was infuriating hearing people say Lebron was better. Even when Kobe was getting to the finals every year and Bron was never there.

Remember this shyt?! Why was Lebron even part of this campaign? Last go back a lil further actually.

nikkas had this guy on a God level before he accomplished anything. I think Lebrons a good guy, love that he's kept his image clean all these years, family man, stands up for us. But nikkas just crowned him so prematurely only to have him go ring chase in his prime. Think about that, he went ring chasing in his prime. Who does that? And the nikka almost got away with it too.

I felt the same way with everything you said except the bolded. I look at people sideways when they mention the ring chase. How can you not see it as him creating the best situation for himself. He put in work for 7 yrs and there didn't seem like no real attempt to get the right peices around him to win. Remember MJ was in the league for years balling hard but not really winning until the front office added the right prices. Even Reggie Miller over time got the right prices built around him. Once mj had that core around him there was no reason for him to look elsewhere. Since Bron saw no sense of urgency with management he decided to choose his own path. But you probably think he should of stayed the whole time in Cleveland and things would of magically got better.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Came into the league crowned before even playing a game

Weak ass "I'm leaving my team" afternoon special in 2010

He's not better than Kobe

He beat my dubs last year

 

[catskill247]

First off, nobody ever got more hate than Kobe, the man has 5 rings and only one MVP, even Larry Bird said that sh*t was bullsh*t. Secondly, Lebron and his stans trying to act as if he is better than nikkaz that played against much higher comp and often times with less help, without all the extra sh*t. Thirdly, Lebron's game is no game, he doesn't portray the skill that an MJ or a Kobe does. He's not really breaking too many players off the dribble, his jumper is not feared. I get why he's good, I don't get why he's GOAT. I don't hate Lebron, I think everybody will admit he's a great player, what people hate are the MJ/Kobe comparisons and all this GOAT b.s.

You didn't mention his court vision, his defense (prime Bron) or the fact that this football built guy can weave through players and finish full court gracfully. You realize he's built like Karl Malone but ruining the floor like a Point guard.

He is seen as a goat for many reasons you cant be serious.You have to factor in the hype and pressure put on him straight from high school and he not only stepped up but he has exceeded expectations. The guy went from leaving science class to go play and dominate a high school ball game on ESPN to a few months later leaving h.s. to play and dominate against NBA players on ESPN.

He also imo has more memorable playoff games.You could build a case for why Duncan is better but do any of his playoff games standout. Bron has at least 3 that we can all think of as you're reading this that I don't even have to list them

 

[qwasi]

He is a Paradox. Crowned and revelled in being caller a specimen yet developed a reputation of flopping like a b*tch. Bounced from super team to the next. Recall his 8 ring fiasco. Never accomplished it or stuck around to see it through. Instead heads 'home' to his stacked team. Keeps stacking said team since then. Yet every time he does do something good. Guess what there is a Stan I'm the stands waiting to give you the why, when, how, who of his supposed tough journey to greatness. Muh Stats! If that is not enough they do so shytting on every other great in the process. LeBron's legitimate hate post 2016 is due to his fanbase.

 

[bzb]

interesting. bunch of lebron haters throw hella rocks in other threads, but hiding their hands in this one.

from the stance of a bron supporter (not sure if qualify as a stan because i can see objectively and acknowledge faults/bs when i see it) it seems a lot of people don't like how he came in as the "anointed one" to take the throne from mj (unreasonable media hype that lebron kind of fed into himself), he was immature and feeling himself immediately after his rookie year and no one checked him (the sidelines fukkery, river dancing, etc), being fake humble which he still kind of is, "the decision" which i get, "the heatles" which i get, his "game" which is more bully ball than finesse which i don't get because his game is more than just scoring, and last but not least his success. success breeds hate. people forget that mj got a lot of hate back in the day. he wasn't close to being universally loved or goat status like today until the close to his second retirement.

bron is unfukwitable off the court, unlike many of the greats.

all that said, personally i don't think lebron can match or surpass the goat mj at this point. unless he just goes tf off and somehow wills his team to two more titles in a row, then i might reconsider. but i understand how it rubs people the wrong way to make the comparison. he's just a bigger than life figure and from a media/marketing standpoint the closest thing. lebron will be one of the goats in this generation when it's all said and done though. i also think people will have more love and respect for him as he gets closer to retirement just like with all the other greats.

 

[Verbal Kint]

He is a Paradox. Crowned and revelled in being caller a specimen yet developed a reputation of flopping like a b*tch. Bounced from super team to the next. Recall his 8 ring fiasco. Never accomplished it or stuck around to see it through. Instead heads 'home' to his stacked team. Keeps stacking said team since then. Yet every time he does do something good. Guess what there is a Stan I'm the stands waiting to give you the why, when, how, who of his supposed tough journey to greatness. Muh Stats! If that is not enough they do so shytting on every other great in the process. LeBron's legitimate hate post 2016 is due to his fanbase.

We really overstating the whole stacked thing with Cleveland. I'm a Wolves fan and 90% of Wolves fans were geeked for the Love/WIggins trade cause we weren't winning anything being built around an O only PF that couldn't D up or rim protect. Kyrie had never led a team to 35 wins. The prime Heat Big 3 were more talented overall.

 

[Biscayne]

Again, I don't hate LeBron. I hate his stans and some of the ridiculous stuff they say to build upon LeBron's already impressive legacy. Exhibit A:

"No Wade wasn't a top 5

Lebron
Westbrook
Durant
Chris Paul
Kobe Byrant

Wade led the league in absolutely nothing in 2011 what are you talking about

Bosh was what Kevin Love is now to the Cavs, maybe even worst, just a solid player, Horace Grant was more a force for Jordan's bulls its not even close"

@Master Teacher claims Wade wasn't even a Top5 player at the time LBJ decided to join him in Miami. Claims Bosh was potentially worse than KLove is now, and that Horace Grant was more of a force than CB.

@GhostKiD

These are the types of LBJ-stans I was talking about.

 

[Born2BKing]

Why is it so hard for nikkas to say Kobe is a goat, MJ is a goat, Bron is a goat, Kareem is a goat, etc etc. Why ya'll try to tear somebody down to big up your favorite player? That's the definition of hoe shyt. I respect all the greats and I have MJ #1, Kareem #2 and Bron #3. That don't mean I'mma start screaming about MJ's faults to boost Bron up. That's sucka shyt. And you only see it from Kobe stans and a small number of MJ stans.