TrueIt’s crazy how if they were just 10 games below .500 on the road instead of 22 they’d comfortably be the 2nd or 3rd seed. But nope we gotta rely on others.
Holy Cannoli! We’re On The Strive For Five! The Dynasty Rolls On! Golden State Warriors 2022-23 Season Thread
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Yeah, still can’t undo the damage those 10 games did….sunk us early. I guess u don’t wanna acknowledge that…
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You don’t wanna acknowledge that in the post Wiseman era we have lost to the Suns with no Booker, CP3, Ayton or KD and we just lost to the Nuggets with no Jokic. There have been many more losses that I can look up if you really want to take it there.Yeah, still can’t undo the damage those 10 games did….sunk us early. I guess u don’t wanna acknowledge that…
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I just lost over $200 betting on these trash ass road Warriors I’m ready for all smoke
We did lose those games. And we would STILL be out of the play in range and have sole possession of the 5 seed if we didn’t waste time with that failed experiment.
That’s the point I’m making. There is an inherent cost to the wiseman experiment. We can’t get those games back. So even with all the issues we have after he got traded, we are STILL dealing with the opportunity cost of playing him 20+ mins a game to start the season off. And the cost of that choice is being in play-in range. The other cost is being unable to get better pieces that can actually help. And the third cost is dropping a guy that played closing mins in the finals, and then wasting more resources to get him back. And let’s not get into the fact that Steph, Dray and Klay have to be perfect night in and night out for them to get comfortable wins, which is unfair to them.
So yes, we all know they’ve been fukking up. The issue is not only wiseman as a player, but all the issues they have to deal with because of wiseman as an asset. We would be at LEAST the 5 seed if we just dropped Wiseman during the offseason along with all 3 of our draft picks for veteran help. PBJ does nothing, Rollins has a fukking JONES FRACTURE from playing in the G league, and gui santos is in the G league. The cost of drafting more rookies is putting more strain on Steph and crew. Imagine if we NEVER drafted them and packaged those picks with Wiseman
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Just imagine if they traded that #2 pick for some actual talent instead of ultimately trading it for a player [GP2] they already had the year before.
From light years ahead to back in time.
Warriors should have kept Wiseman (aka Young Amare Stoudemire)
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This is cool revisionist history but it reminds me of arguing with a girlfriend. We can all agree that trading Wiseman for pennies hurt the team but that was never the discussion back when he was on the team. The goalposts are moving 10 yards at a time.
This is the same Warriors team that loss back to back games to Orlando and Detroit without Wiseman so how do you have the audacity to assume they win those first 10 games of the season without him? Why can’t you concede that the roster just isn’t that good?
First of all, Klays slump to start the season wouldn’t have changed, Pooles bonehead mistakes all year wouldn’t have changed, Lamb would be the same player, etc
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Cool.. pandering for easy daps but no one is calling Wiseman good or defending his roster spot. The point is that the Warriors have been doomed all season but Wiseman was the popular scapegoat while me and @Bay Area were saying that the team was in deep trouble with or without Wiseman.Warriors should have kept Wiseman (aka Young Amare Stoudemire)
Because he WAS on the team. He should've been traded before....which is the point. Warriors should have traded him AND their 3 draft picks in that draft. This isn't revisionist history for me.
I agree the roster isnt that good. we all agree....which is why you dont keep the scrubs that arent doing anything. Like the lakers did. and they turned their season around. Dumbass warriors FO still have nearly all their picks because they don't offer them in trade talks, and instead use them and draft bad players who fizzle out the league
here is me, saying they should've traded their picks before the draft. I dont need to move the goalposts.
I wouldn’t be mad if the warriors packaged the 3 picks we have this draft and tried to move them
No reason to have a pick. We have enough picks on the bench. Do what we didn’t do during the last 2 trade deadlines: sharpen up around the edges and get better
And for the record, they should move the pick they have this season once they find a taker. Draft the person the other team wants and get rid of the pick for players that can help.
Moody, PBJ, Rollins, 1st round pick. that should be enough for something. But the FO never trade their picks, and then lie that they were "very aggressive" during the trade deadline
I honestly don't think the players, especially the top dogs, know exactly HOW IMPORTANT these final games are.
If so, they sure don't play like it.
Denver tried to give them a game, and they were lolligagging and throwing the ball around like they hadn't a care in the world.
Was scust watching dudes pass up wide open shots in the lane, over and over, to kick it out for yet another 3 brick.
Maybe that's part of why they suck on the road?
They're always trying to make these high risk, high reward, energy plays... that are only a positive EV when they have a rabid crowd to inflate the energy.
Edit: Donte basically said a similar thing about their shot selection on the road in post game
If so, they sure don't play like it.
Denver tried to give them a game, and they were lolligagging and throwing the ball around like they hadn't a care in the world.
Was scust watching dudes pass up wide open shots in the lane, over and over, to kick it out for yet another 3 brick.
Maybe that's part of why they suck on the road?
They're always trying to make these high risk, high reward, energy plays... that are only a positive EV when they have a rabid crowd to inflate the energy.
Edit: Donte basically said a similar thing about their shot selection on the road in post game
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My post was mainly me trolling Gil
lol at using the first games with Wiseman as an excuse
homie left and we still aint been shyt in the 20 games since. while trading him early definitely coulda added depth that would make the team better as a whole...he is not and never has been THE problem. merely one of many
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lets talk about Jordan Poole being a bozo and constantly turning it over or making dumb decisions in the clutch
lets talk about the lack of discipline on defense
lets talk about the playing down to their competition
lets talk about Wiggins' absence
lets talk about the fact this team didnt bother to add a Jaden McDaniels or Jakob Poetl type player (for peanuts) even after giving up on Wiseman
i can go on
yes I am talking to you @Don Homer
homie left and we still aint been shyt in the 20 games since. while trading him early definitely coulda added depth that would make the team better as a whole...he is not and never has been THE problem. merely one of many
instead
lets talk about Jordan Poole being a bozo and constantly turning it over or making dumb decisions in the clutch
lets talk about the lack of discipline on defense
lets talk about the playing down to their competition
lets talk about Wiggins' absence
lets talk about the fact this team didnt bother to add a Jaden McDaniels or Jakob Poetl type player (for peanuts) even after giving up on Wiseman
i can go on
yes I am talking to you @Don Homer
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