HOLD ON COLI: Is Nas The Goat?

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I honestly was apart of the "deep down inside group"

I began to notice this in 2006 after KC dropped. From there it just became clearer as the years went on. The nail in the coffin was WTT. That album is dope but those nikkas took the concept from Nas.

Nas my nikka :my man: All those years I argued against you...... "Your Da Man"



Explain? Nas has always been my favorite Emcee and I'm well aware of numerous concepts Jay stole from Nas...however I'm not following you on this...cause I don't know what concept Jay stole from Nas on WTT?
 
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proof you say?

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that's the rap equivalent to what MJ did in basketball

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Only because the thread starter mentioned it in the initial post...

Watch the THrone is better and Jay's resume is. Simply.

But this album hard.
 

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At this point in their careers only nas actually tries to make good music that nikka jay been feel the fukk off to real nikkas. But I respect the dude because atleast he said he's doing it for the money on black album. Nas does it for his fans, Jay does it for the money. I dont even see how this is a convo when jays last couple albums been pop albums
 

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At this point in their careers only nas actually tries to make good music that nikka jay been feel the fukk off to real nikkas. But I respect the dude because atleast he said he's doing it for the money on black album. Nas does it for his fans, Jay does it for the money. I dont even see how this is a convo when jays last couple albums been pop albums

Man stop with the hyperboles.

You cant tell me that Jay-Z hasnt made good music since the Black Album.

American Gangster might be better than Life is Good let alone Watch the Throne. And I aint even tryna show my in-stan-ity right now I'm being fair. :manny:

Damn near every verse Jay has put out since So Appalled has been fire.
 

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jay z hasnt made good music since reasonable doubt-fukk that faq gayz

he shouldnt be in the GOAT discussions- its cool when people say pac,rakim, nas, biggie but jay is crap- ill never understand why people love him so much
 

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I'm sorry, I have to disagree. I STILL feel Hov is the better artist. Again, my opinion, but i knew soon as I first heard Jay it was a wrap. I have no probs with y'all sayin Nas da goat but I just can't agree. Minus one or two albums EVERYTHING Hov put out has been GREAT. They've all used influences from each other and other rappers so it's a bit of a draw that way...

I just feel like Jay has been hated b/c he was a bit more mainstream, but the man is a monster y'all got him in here sounding like he'd be nothing without Nasir the "goat" FOH...Hov BEEN that dude...Reasonable Doubt is tied with Illmatic to me...just my $0.02 tho


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There isn't a GOAT.

Pac/Nas/Hov.

Take you pick depending on the concept you're going for or the style of song you want. Nas has the most insecure fans on the internet though. It's like you guys feel the need to validate yourselves through him every chance you get. About 5 people heard Distant Relatives. I'm a borderline Nas stan and even I didn't want to bother with that.

I haven't heard Life is Good yet, but it sounds like he finally got his ear for music back. Nothing is more overrated on here than Untitled and I still play it. The worst thing about Nas fans is that they think everything he says is gospel so when he raps with a monotone flow over even worse beats they go crazy for it because they think he's spitting "truth." He does a lot of the time, but not always. Just because a song has a message doesn't mean it's executed well.

His execution has been inconsistent until this run of the last 18 months or so. shyt like "Who Killed It" was terrible. But then "Let There Be Light" would be really good. I wonder if some Nas fans remember that music is supposed to be listenable. His shyt has been uneven since Street's Disciple.
 

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Its all opinions Nas is my fav, but you can't get mad when someone thinks Pac, Jay, Ra, or Kast is the GOAT.
 

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I KNOW y'all gonna be mad, but I don't think Pac is a top 3 MC.

I just don't think he had the mic skills Jay, Nas, Big and them had...He was very talented, and a good rapper, I just think he had quantity...volumes and volumes of work. I just feel that the quality was spotty. Not to say he didn't have fire shyt...

I guess y'all gonna label me as a "Jay Stan" but i listen to EVERYBODY, and try to be as fair as possible (but Hov my man tho lol)
 
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