Hitmaka debates with B-Dot that the Nas/Hit-Boy albums have no impact

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Jay and Nas went down mostly different paths. Jay chased popular trendy music with all the most popular producers and dumbed down subject matter. He even admitted as much. At times Nas flirted with that but he mostly made the music he wanted to make popularity be damned.
Nas and jay used the same producers

what trendy producers did jay z use?
 

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ok so y’all stop comparing Nas to jayz. because jay selling 10x what the last Nas album did first week would be seen as a flop for jay.

thank u for saying this. There should be no more jay/Nas

Since when do I compare Nas to Jay commercially? Jay is bigger than Nas has ever been, and he's been ahead commercially since 1999. But I, you, and everyone in rap shyt understands Jay and Nas aren't being compared commercially. They're being compared as the best MCs. Which is a far more contested debate than "who sold more albums."

You think Jay is better, I think Nas is better. End of the day for me I don't really care who you say is better. It's a subjective debate and given that both rappers have supreme resumes to even be in the conversation, why would I get mad if you choose the other guy? Hell you can add Pac and Biggie to the debate. I wouldn't bat an eye if someone said Pac is the GOAT, or Biggie is the GOAT. Those are all guys in the conversation. Wouldn't bother me any more than someone saying Martin Scorsese is the GOAT director, or Stanley Kubrick is the GOAT director. I expect those names to be in the conversation.

Who is the greatest jazz musician, is it Miles Davis or John Coltrane or Charlie Parker or Louis Armstrong? Pick one. You aren't wrong.
 

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Nas and jay used the same producers

what trendy producers did jay z use?
How many Timbaland tracks does Nas have? How many does Jay-Z have? What about the Neptunes? How and Salaam Remi tracks does Jay-Z have? Alchemist? Jay has many of the hottest producers in the game at the time working on his shyt. Nas mostly stayed with people many of which were notable for working with him.
 

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Since when do I compare Nas to Jay commercially? Jay is bigger than Nas has ever been, and he's been ahead commercially since 1999. But I, you, and everyone in rap shyt understands Jay and Nas aren't being compared commercially. They're being compared as the best MCs. Which is a far more contested debate than "who sold more albums."

You think Jay is better, I think Nas is better. End of the day for me I don't really care who you say is better. It's a subjective debate and given that both rappers have supreme resumes to even be in the conversation, why would I get mad if you choose the other guy? Hell you can add Pac and Biggie to the debate. I wouldn't bat an eye if someone said Pac is the GOAT, or Biggie is the GOAT. Those are all guys in the conversation. Wouldn't bother me any more than someone saying Martin Scorsese is the GOAT director, or Stanley Kubrick is the GOAT director. I expect those names to be in the conversation.

Who is the greatest jazz musician, is it Miles Davis or John Coltrane or Charlie Parker or Louis Armstrong? Pick one. You aren't wrong.
U ran straight to Nas numbers vs Jim. Didn’t mention quality or nothing. This is how I know y’all frauds. yall Pick n choose
 

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Blah blah..I never seen a nygga on here that try to discredit him post after post like you
Y’all are allowing him to gaslight y’all. Page after page y’all keep responding. Dude is obviously obsessed with Nasir and uses Nas fans to get off. This happens all the time with this dude and y’all allow it to go on for days. I never seen nothing like it. Dude knows Nas has a major impact just look how often Nas impacts him to post about him just bc he knows the attention he will get from it. Dude is a dyck riding bytch nygga who loves the attention. Nas’ fans need to stop giving it to him.
 

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U ran straight to Nas numbers vs Jim. Didn’t mention quality or nothing. This is how I know y’all frauds. yall Pick n choose

Are you retarded?

:dead:

This is my first post in this thread:

"This isn't even worth addressing and I'd hope that Hit Boy chills out. I think it's clear they aren't making music or releasing music in a way to do numbers. They're just...doing dope shyt. And this is a weird argument for Hitmaka considering he's promoting a Jim Jones collab that's about to bomb. Do sales matter for that album or is he gonna say "nah we were just making dope music and weren't thinking about sales" lol. Who cares if Jim Jones bombs in 2023. Who cares if Nas bombs in 2023. But one thing I do know...one of those dudes is a legend who effortlessly sold out MSG and is UP up financially. And the other guy is a bum paying gang members off scraps. You tell me who is winning."


Show me where I said album sales numbers matter. The entire point is fukk the numbers, if you're making good music do you.
:mjlol:
 

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U ran straight to Nas numbers vs Jim. Didn’t mention quality or nothing. This is how I know y’all frauds. yall Pick n choose
That was the basis of HITMAKA'S argument. Jim Jones isn't more relevant musically or commercially than Nas. There's no metric that Jim Jones is over Nas.
 

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Y’all are allowing him to gaslight y’all. Page after page y’all keep responding. Dude is obviously obsessed with Nasir and uses Nas fans to get off. This happens all the time with this dude and y’all allow it to go on for days. I never seen nothing like it. Dude knows Nas has a major impact just look how often Nas impacts him to post about him just bc he knows the attention he will get from it. Dude is a dyck riding bytch nygga who loves the attention. Nas’ fans need to stop giving it to him.
True
 

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Y’all are allowing him to gaslight y’all. Page after page y’all keep responding. Dude is obviously obsessed with Nasir and uses Nas fans to get off. This happens all the time with this dude and y’all allow it to go on for days. I never seen nothing like it. Dude knows Nas has a major impact just look how often Nas impacts him to post about him just bc he knows the attention he will get from it. Dude is a dyck riding bytch nygga who loves the attention. Nas’ fans need to stop giving it to him.

That's what's hilarious about it though, he says Nas has no impact yet all he does is talk about Nas...Nas makes a daily impact on his life because look how he spends his time on here...I'm not sure if he notices the irony of that either lol
 

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U act like a bytch.. that was the post.
So because I give my opinion of a dude who don’t know u are alive. that mean it’s fine to think about men having sex with men?
y’all dudes say the most across the globe lol

u literally thought about two men having sex. nas is not your daddy. I didn’t say anything disrespectful personally about the dude. So once again keep your homo ways to yourself

got grown men in here talking about gaslighting
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