Hillary is going to obliterate Trump in the most one-sided series of presidential debates ever

[BucciMane]

@ y'all thinking PA, New York, Michigan and Ohio are in play.

Trump is winning NY and OH for sure. The tears will be delicious when he does.

 

[MrSinnister]

@ y'all thinking PA, New York, Michigan and Ohio are in play.

I didn't say New York, as it will never be in real trouble, but yes on the rest. It's not really that funny either if you see the 2012 receipts. Or you can continue to assume shyt.

 

[MrSinnister]

You guys are delusional lol. African Americans, Hispanics, Women are going remember all the shyt Trump said and be reminded of it in November. They will come out in numbers and Hilary will walk into the Oval Office lol

You talking about the party that has 2 Hispanics as their main candidates? Trump may actually tap Rubio as VP on some troll shyt, and they have plenty of Latino talent to fill, in his place, of he's damaged Rubio too much.

Think Latinos love you brehs, which is why they were considered White in the census until the late 1970's , and consistently keep Florida in play for White supremacy brehs.

Edit: Tell em again Bane. Bane: Appropriation has defeated you!

 

[Kemba]

You talking about the party that has 2 Hispanics as their main candidates? Trump may actually tap Rubio as VP on some troll shyt, and they have plenty of Latino talent to fill, in his place, of he's damaged Rubio too much.

Think Latinos love you brehs, which is why they were considered White in the census until the late 1970's , and consistently keep Florida in play for White supremacy brehs.

Edit: Tell em again Bane. Bane: Appropriation has defeated you!

You...you realize that Trump's disapproval numbers among Latinos hover in the mid 80's right? Obama only earned about 70% of the latino vote in 2012, for reference.

 

[Don De Dieu]

Since I've seen it thrown out a few times, I'm fairly certain Trump won't take Wisconsin. If the argument is built on Walker being elected governor, it's a bit complicated, but basically he won during a wave year and against an incompetent state Democratic Party fielding weak candidates. He's extremely unpopular right now, but isn't on the ticket. If the DPW could field a decent candidate, he'd get trounced if he ran again.

At the federal level, there's an unpopular sitting senator (Ron Johnson) going against a popular former senator (Russ Feingold). Johnson will lose handily, and there's no way you're splitting your vote between Trump and Feingold.

Finally, the last time the state voted for a Republican presidential candidate was 1984. Paul Ryan (who's from Janesville) being on the ticket didn't do shyt. Zero chance Trump will.

 

[Misanthrope]

At the end of the day, the electoral college is all that matters. And it says we will have another democrat in office in 2017.

Serious question, with a straight face what blue states is trump going carry that Obama did in 2012

California
New York
Ohio
Michigan
Florida
Sorry it's not happening, and as much as i don't care for Hilary, she will be the 45th president of the United States.


@ Republicans

What Would It Take To Flip States In The 2016 Election?

Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio all have Republican governors right now.
Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire could flip too given the right demographics. That's enough for Trump to win 293-245, so he could fail to get one of the big states or Wisconsin and Iowa or N.H. and still win close.

I expect Trump-Clinton to turn into a racist shytshow on both sides that makes us all want to stay home. Add that to Trump doing better among uneducated broke cac's and it doesn't matter how much Mexicans or young people hate him, he ends up as President. Not saying that it's going to happen, but he does have a lane to get there.

The math from last summer.

Trump, or who else the R candidate is can win this election without gaining a single black vote, and I doubt Trump expects to get anything more than the 7% that Romney got.

What y'all fail to realize is that voter participation is so low that a candidate that simply motivates their base to vote effectively instead of being ho-hum about it, can make elections look lopsided as fukk like Obama did twice. Trump's out there wildin' so whites will get off their asses and vote for him.

For the R to win, all they need to do is win the states that Romney won, and flip 63 electoral votes. Florida/Ohio/Pennsylvania = 67. In 2012, Wikipedia reports 54.1% of voting age people actually voted, so let's use those numbers, and assume that they're equal between races (assume 54% of voting age people in each race voted)

Florida: 2012, Romney lost by 74,309 votes. Florida has an estimated 10.96 Million Whites of voting age. If the R can get .7% of the voting age white population to vote for them instead of staying home, they win.
[They need 1.52% of the Whites that didn't vote to vote R]

Ohio: 2012, Romney lost by 166,214 votes. Ohio has an estimated 9.37 Million Whites of voting age. If the R can get 1.8% of the white population to vote for them instead of staying home they win.
[They need 3.91% of the Whites that didn't vote to vote R]

Pennsylvania: 2012, Romney lost by 309,840 votes. Pennsylvania has an estimated 10.10 Million Whites of voting age. If the R can get 3.1% of the white population to vote for them instead of staying home, they win.
[They need 6.74% of the Whites that didn't vote to vote R]
Voting Age Population by Citizenship and Race (CVAP) - Redistricting Data - U.S. Census Bureau

edit: tried to make things easier to understand

 

[Kemba]

Lol michigan and wisconsin haven't gone red since Reagan was in office. These aren't swing states. We might as well be talking about Hillary's odds of winning Texas.

 

[MrSinnister]

What Would It Take To Flip States In The 2016 Election?

Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio all have Republican governors right now.
Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire could flip too given the right demographics. That's enough for Trump to win 293-245, so he could fail to get one of the big states or Wisconsin and Iowa or N.H. and still win close.

I expect Trump-Clinton to turn into a racist shytshow on both sides that makes us all want to stay home. Add that to Trump doing better among uneducated broke cac's and it doesn't matter how much Mexicans or young people hate him, he ends up as President. Not saying that it's going to happen, but he does have a lane to get there.

Exactly, Whites knew they really didn't have a fighting chance with Romney, and he only looks like he got his clock cleaned by the overall tally, and not if you go state to state. I have seen, with my own eyes and the record GOP turnouts for their primaries resembles Obama's in 2008, that they feel they have a real chance no matter who the nominee is.

Will Blacks really really really be there for Hillary, and are Latinos really more scared of a wall than more broke ass Latinos coming over here to compete with them for being the new White pets? I say no to both, and Hillary is definitely going to need them.

Blacks may not be enthusiastic about Sanders, but he steals independents and Republicans who want to prove they're not racist, as well as tired of the robots running the party. I've talked to them, they have said this. Hillary is not going to grab them off, and the more rabid ones who support White supremacy hate the Clintons more than life.

 

[Kemba]

Exactly, Whites knew they really didn't have a fighting chance with Romney, and he only looks like he got his clock cleaned by the overall tally, and not if you go state to state. I have seen, with my own eyes and the record GOP turnouts for their primaries resembles Obama's in 2008, that they feel they have a real chance no matter who the nominee is.

Will Blacks really really really be there for Hillary, and are Latinos really more scared of a wall than more broke ass Latinos coming over here to compete with them for being the new White pets? I say no to both, and Hillary is definitely going to need them.

Blacks may not be enthusiastic about Sanders, but he steals independents and Republicans who want to prove they're not racist, as well as tired of the robots running the party. I've talked to them, they have said this. Hillary is not going to grab them off, and the more rabid ones who support White supremacy hate the Clintons more than life.

Please don't take offense to this, but you seem to have no idea what the hell you're talking about. We have the figures. It's a tangible thing. Latinos really fukking hate Donald Trump, and they seem to like Hillary a great deal. You can't just infer that they're all lying to themselves or something.

Furthermore, you mention Sanders stealing independents, which begs the question; stealing them from who? Certainly not Donald Trump, who they overwhelmingly despise. Which isn't a great sign when you consider that Romney won independent voters handily in 2012, and still got smoked. Also, how would voting for Bernie Sanders prove you aren't racist? And how did you arrive at the conclusion that a significant number of conservatives are so eager to prove they aren't racist, that they're willing to vote for a man who stands against everything they hold dear?

Just, man, idk, try to post less complete bullshyt in the future

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Please don't take offense to this, but you seem to have no idea what the hell you're talking about. We have the figures. It's a tangible thing. Latinos really fukking hate Donald Trump, and they seem to like Hillary a great deal. You can't just infer that they're all lying to themselves or something.

Furthermore, you mention Sanders stealing independents, which begs the question; stealing them from who? Certainly not Donald Trump, who they overwhelmingly despise. Which isn't a great sign when you consider that Romney won independent voters handily in 2012, and still got smoked. Also, how would voting for Bernie Sanders prove you aren't racist? And how did you arrive at the conclusion that a significant number of conservatives are so eager to prove they aren't racist, that they're willing to vote for a man who stands against everything they hold dear?

Just, man, idk, try to post less complete bullshyt in the future

Dude doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. He's just rambling and pulling stuff out of his ass and single-handedly ruining the whole thread.

 

[MrSinnister]

Please don't take offense to this, but you seem to have no idea what the hell you're talking about. We have the figures. It's a tangible thing. Latinos really fukking hate Donald Trump, and they seem to like Hillary a great deal. You can't just infer that they're all lying to themselves or something.

Furthermore, you mention Sanders stealing independents, which begs the question; stealing them from who? Certainly not Donald Trump, who they overwhelmingly despise. Which isn't a great sign when you consider that Romney won independent voters handily in 2012, and still got smoked. Also, how would voting for Bernie Sanders prove you aren't racist? And how did you arrive at the conclusion that a significant number of conservatives are so eager to prove they aren't racist, that they're willing to vote for a man who stands against everything they hold dear?

Just, man, idk, try to post less complete bullshyt in the future

Lmao! Thanks for the backhand. I've already posted the numbers. Is not the GOP primaries pulling record numbers? But okay, your opinion, since you're in the incumbency/establishment, is always going to be superior huh?

You sound like the GOP in 2008, who said America would never vote for a Black man, when record numbers were going to the polls. Then, "they won't show up in the general".

I can understand disagreeing with someone, but this arrogant need to slap people in the face for a different opinion is definitely out Achilles's heel. If our judgments are so tucking superior, why are we at the bottom over every statistical economic measure of power? But we love to talk shyt to each other.

I posted the 2012 receipts. I've actually done the work to prove my facts. All you and others have done was pull history out of your asses, like it means something. We're in a new age, and more pepper are connected then ever before. Ignore them at your peril.

 

[SirReginald]

Only reason I give Trump a good chance because all the scandals Clinton has been in.

 

[MrSinnister]

Donald Trump drives Republican turnout to record; Democrats lack enthusiasm

I know ya'll smarter. I just do the actual research. Ya'll turn this into a street corner. You're not intelligent people.

And I will say again, this is the same phenomenon Obama, your savior, had in 2008, since you're fans of history and shyt.

 

[SirReginald]

Donald Trump drives Republican turnout to record; Democrats lack enthusiasm

I know ya'll smarter. I just do the actual research. Ya'll turn this into a street corner. You're not intelligent people.

And I will say again, this is the same phenomenon Obama, your savior, had in 2008, since you're fans of history and shyt.

This is true

 

[Kemba]

Lmao! Thanks for the backhand. I've already posted the numbers. Is not the GOP primaries pulling record numbers? But okay, your opinion, since you're in the incumbency/establishment, is always going to be superior huh?

You sound like the GOP in 2008, who said America would never vote for a Black man, when record numbers were going to the polls. Then, "they won't show up in the general".

I can understand disagreeing with someone, but this arrogant need to slap people in the face for a different opinion is definitely out Achilles's heel. If our judgments are so tucking superior, why are we at the bottom over every statistical economic measure of power? But we love to talk shyt to each other.

I posted the 2012 receipts. I've actually done the work to prove my facts. All you and others have done was pull history out of your asses, like it means something. We're in a new age, and more pepper are connected then ever before. Ignore them at your peril.

Uh...bro?

Also I'm not talking about anything in the past, I'm talking about right now. Trump polls terribly with women, latinos, and independants. Those are facts.