Hillary Clinton’s Support Among Nonwhite Voters Has Collapsed

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California voted on Feb 5 in 2008

not as many people knew who Obama was at the time and he caught on as the primaries went on. Somewhat similarly Bernie has been gaining on Hillary's numbers and now leads among both Democrats and Independents in national polls - she's preferred among Republicans though. Whether that's enough to climb out of a bigger hole is to be seen, but either way Bernie pushing Hillary is the only chance WE have with her of getting money out of politics on a significant level. So I'm going to keep manifesting him getting to California with a puncher's chance

Do you really think this is possible. Money is the beginning and end for politics.
 

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What pundits are failing to understand is this started as a choice between a vanilla milkshake with some sprinkles vs someone promising you a deluxe strawberry or chocolate smoothie with some cherries on the Democratic side. The differences didn't seem that big, if you didn't really feel money in politics was an issue.

Bernie is starting to be more forceful with the contrast and the media is now analyzing the differences between them more, while still saying no change is better. People disagree, and now finding that money in politics has been corrupting to their own lives. Their is now 2 clear choices on the Democratic side, so states will pick which of those sides they prefer. In a Democratic primary, in a change election, the honest side will almost always win more at the end. This is also a referendum on Hillary's negatives, and not Bernie's, as he represents issues.
 

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Do you really think this is possible. Money is the beginning and end for politics.
When you have shyt like Boeing has done, that I hope Bernie starts hitting on soon, people will start looking for another way. No one has offered them this 3rd way, until now. Cenk is already going to Philidelphia, then to Washington DC, to push that narrative further, which is even better for Bernie in PA.
 

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People who like Bernie really like Bernie and they show their support. Clinton has a lot of soft supporters but they are also the most consistent voters. You can't judge turnout based on yard signs, bumper stickers, t shirts.

But where are these voters and why aren't they out supporting her. I know her name is recognized but it was the same thing with Obama and he still won. She had all the name recognition but still lost. America is fickle and likes the shiny new toy. If you keep seeing Bernie everywhere won't that sway a lot of people to vote for him. I haven't even seen one Hillary bumper sticker anywhere. Hell I've seen trump custom window decals here but zero Hillary. You'd think this far along in the race I'd have ran into at least one or two.

Washington was exactly how @jerniebert is saying California is with the Bernie signs, etc. I honestly don't recall seeing any Hillary stuff in Washington, while Bernie stuff is everywhere and he cleaned up in the caucuses here.
 

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You're the type of guy who thought slavery added structure to peoples lives.
I thought it was the cac bernie stans that were getting butt hurt and resorting to racist insults.
 

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Wisconsin · 86 delegates looking like 65% now +54 Bernie +28 Hillary
Apr 9
Wyoming · 14 delegates a 70% state +9 +4
Apr 19
New York · 247 delegates 60% (despite fukkery) if he washes Wisconsin (65+) +147 +98
Apr 26
Connecticut · 55 delegates hard to call so 60%, based on momentum +35 +20
Delaware · 21 delegates 60% +12 +9
Maryland · 95 delegates Bernie underperforms here, as Hillary makes last stand and brings out every Black she knows to firewall :lolbron: 60% Hillary, but media already made southern Blacks irrelevant, so won't slow Bernie's momentum. +38 +57

Rhode Island · 24 delegates 60% +14 +10
Pennsylvania · 189 delegates 65% Bernie if he wins New York outright +120 +65

That's allowing from some slippage, in case a$$holes keep voting for O'Malley to troll:stopitslime:

The underperforming Hillary delegate count for only April.
+429 Bernie +296 Hillary

1404 Bernie +1539 Hillary (this is also leaving out Bernie's full haul for the Washington primaries)

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Does this look over or not doable?

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I thought it was the cac bernie stans that were getting butt hurt and resorting to racist insults.
Hillary people have treated Blacks like pets since 2007. You don't know White liberals like I do. They think we're stupid and here from their benevolence, outside of the ones they're friends with, admire for entertainment, or maybe fukking. When you're not one of those, you're like the thug they see on the street, unless you're wearing khakis and look like you're going to work.

Don't get it twist just because they vote Democrat. They're doing for their own come up.
 

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I thought it was the cac bernie stans that were getting butt hurt and resorting to racist insults.

I'm not very concerned about what I say to Trump supporters. It isn't racist either, I think the guy is a fukking c00n.
 

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Hillary people have treated Blacks like pets since 2007. You don't know White liberals like I do. They think we're stupid and here from their benevolence, outside of the ones they're friends with, admire for entertainment, or maybe fukking. When you're not one of those, you're like the thug they see on the street, unless you're wearing khakis and look like you're going to work.

Don't get it twist just because they vote Democrat. They're doing for their own come up.

Your stanning for the preferred candidate of the white liberal :ld:
 

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Do you really think this is possible. Money is the beginning and end for politics.
I think it's happening in some ways right now

The Republican front-runner talks about not taking from PACs and the democratic #2 is calling for publicly funded elections. Something like 84% of people in America want money out of politics

if there is another downturn before 2020 or even in the next 10 years (which I think will happen) a lot will change including this money issue. 2008 is still fresh in people's mind
 
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